If you really want to be an asteroid miner, just play EVE online.

That cat was probably Jewish, how horrible of these guys.

What, he never did stuff at night after work?

And I thought people watched the video before replying.
>> ^rychan:
I thought that the ideas that tastes were strongly localized on the tongue and that we had a small number of discrete flavors were discredited.

It's interesting that the only praise for the movie they could find was from IGN and Ain't It Cool News (twice).

>> ^Sagemind:

I can't agree with this.
Either you are a career person or you are a stay at home parent.
A dedication to the job at hand lets you succeed. No one can be expected to do both and be expected to excel at the same rate as the person who just chooses one. (male or female).
In Canada, yes, Men can get paternity, though most women would never give up their maternity to let them. (Only one parent can claim.) My wife took the maternity rights.
Yes, I was a stay at home dad (for a time) - and it was socially accepted - in fact I was commended!
NO! Woman are not expected to do the most - where do you get that from???
If the spouse isn't pulling their weight, it's a communication/relationship issue - talk to the spouse, don't blame "society" for something you let happen. (male or female)
Most of the (domestic)work falls to who ever is home with the kids, that's the way it is. Someone has to be there at some point. And when the other spouse gets home, they chip in, in equal portions. If they don't, then that says more about the relationship than society. By the way, while one spouse is at home working for the home, the other is out working to pay for it - It's not like they are away from the home avoiding responsibility).
This whole dad goes to work and brings home the bacon while mom stays home with the kids just DOESN'T exist in the real world for the average family. If you believe that, you're kidding yourself. No one can exist on a single income any more. If they can, then it's a privilege for the spouse who gets to spend the time at home with the kids and should thank the other spouse every day for their good fortune. (male or female) !!!
>> ^Tagichatn:
Men have children too, so why do women get picked on? Apparently it's "false logic" according to westy that women can have a full family and a full professional career but it's pretty easy for men. That's because even today, in 2010, women are generally expected to do most, if not all, of the care for the children. Men don't get paternity leave, being a stay at home dad isn't really socially accepted so it falls to the mother to do most of the work. It's not the 50's anymore so women at least have the option of maintaining a career but there's still that belief that the mom does the housework while the dad brings home the money.



It's great that in your relationship things were shared and done equally but how many times do I have to say this? Anecdotes don't matter! My mom was a stay at home mom so therefore 1950's housewives are clearly widespread! Anyway, that's not even my argument. I readily admit that 2 income households have come to dominate but my point is that the 1950's style of thinking still dominates. Even in 2 income households where both parents work and should therefore split the load of housework and childcare, women still are expected
to do the majority of the housework.

You said you've never seen women working for less. I can't speak for Canada but this is from the US Census: http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/censusandstatistics/a/paygapgrows.htm
From a related study based on the census, "Even accounting for factors such as occupation, industry, race, marital status and job tenure, reports the GAO, working women today earn an average of 80 cents for every dollar earned by their male counterparts."

Too bad not every women works with you, otherwise they would totally be equal and it wouldn't be a problem!

2 income homes are not equal either. Women do more work and men have more leisure time on average. Here's a survey done by the New York times: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/15/politics/15labor.html

You can post about your personal experiences all day but your experiences are not everyone elses. This is a societal problem, anecdotes don't tell the full story.

>> ^coolhund:

Geez guys... its a fun video... Why do you have to take things like that so seriously?


Probably because it's a serious issue. Maybe if we all made humorous "ironic" comments like Blankfist sexism would just go away.

Also I think westy is just trolling. It's hard to believe anyone types that badly on purpose and says stuff along the lines of attacking sexism is inherently sexist unless you take into account sexism towards men. Because men are so downtrodden, being the normative privileged social group and all. They need the help. If there's some aspect of society that you feel is being unfairly sexist to men, then go out and talk about it or make a video or something. This video is about sexism versus women and its purpose is not even to encompass all varieties of sexism directed towards women, much less men.

>> ^westy:

>> ^Tagichatn:
>> ^westy:
>> ^CrushBug:
Wow, Westy, you really missed the entire point, didn't you?

I did ?
maby you can tell my how and where I missed the point.

This whole video is a criticism of the view that women should let their career suffer to look after kids and you seem to think it's supporting it. You may think it's typical of the 50's but it's true today as well.
Also the character art is in the style of early 90's video games, not 1950's...

Right the woman character in this thing is in the style of 90s video game ?
also if you actually look into it deeper then you will come to the same conclusion as me.
this video only communicates the same message against sexism that's 20 years old and not really representative of the real issue or the reality of where we are at with sexism now.
it adds nothing to the discussion .
and as I said before its a complete over simplification of the issue.


Where do you think sexism is today? This video is talking about inequality in professional life, child care and housework. Do you think that the inequality doesn't exist?

re NordlichReiter: I won't quote the whole thing because it's already ridiculous.
While you didn't specifically state women had nothing to worry about, the whole tone of your post indicated that it wasn't a problem. You're offering an anecdote as if it means something on a larger level. Sure, it's not a problem at specific places but not everyone has the luxury of picking and choosing or even knowing what those are. I'm saying it's a widespread problem on a societal level.

If you read the FMLA, it says covered employers must grant eligible employees paid leave. Small companies are exempt and not every employee is eligible. Most Western countries have mandated parental leave, the US does not. Some countries even offer years of leave whereas the FMLA is limited to 12 weeks. Belarus and Latvia offer more time than that.

>> ^westy:

>> ^CrushBug:
Wow, Westy, you really missed the entire point, didn't you?

I did ?
maby you can tell my how and where I missed the point.


This whole video is a criticism of the view that women should let their career suffer to look after kids and you seem to think it's supporting it. You may think it's typical of the 50's but it's true today as well.

Also the character art is in the style of early 90's video games, not 1950's...

>> ^NordlichReiter:

I don't know where you people work, but were I work there are a lot of women who make 3 more digits than I do. They also have a shit ton more responsibility than I.
Perhaps it is a stereotype I'm unaware of. Perhaps that's because the places I've worked measure many things. To judge someone by their Sex is a terminable issue, the standard of evidence is even less than what the courts require in civil cases.
That's not to say it doesn't happen.
Anyone who has a problem with female peers doesn't understand that sex has no matter when it comes to doing your job and succeeding at it. I think that any corporate workplace with a bias to gender, or sexuality is an unworthy, and disgusting place work at.
But on the other hand, share-holders don't give a shit what gender you are; only that you bring in the money.


I'm glad that your one anecdote means that women have nothing to worry about. Women, on average, get paid less than men. There are plenty of studies to back that up. Women are less likely to be hired if they have children and less likely to be hired even if they don't on the expectation that they will have children. Obviously if they're the primary caregiver, they have less time for work and they get maternity leave. Less time working means less promotions and so on which is part of the reason for the wage gap. Companies are reluctant to hire women for important positions regardless if they're good or not even if shareholders only care about money. Take a look at how many women are CEOs. Do you think that it's because women are just not as good as men as managing companies?

Men have children too, so why do women get picked on? Apparently it's "false logic" according to westy that women can have a full family and a full professional career but it's pretty easy for men. That's because even today, in 2010, women are generally expected to do most, if not all, of the care for the children. Men don't get paternity leave, being a stay at home dad isn't really socially accepted so it falls to the mother to do most of the work. It's not the 50's anymore so women at least have the option of maintaining a career but there's still that belief that the mom does the housework while the dad brings home the money.

>> ^Beefpile:

Every movie on that list has a male main character. Why would they want to have scenes with women talking to each other that don't relate to the main character or his story? If they did, those scenes would be off-topic.
This test does not determine if movies are catering to men or women, it simply determines whether the main character is male or female.


The issue isn't whether or not it caters to anyone, romantic comedies obviously cater to women but they still perpetuate that weak feminine stereotype. The issue is that women are rarely portrayed in movies as actual characters. Men usually (at least in good movies) have multiple defining characteristics while a woman's defining characteristic is her gender. They serve as motivation for men rather than being actual fleshed-out characters themselves. I'm willing to give Braveheart a pass even with the film's existing historical inaccuracies since it's not like women were all that free in the time period.

Also, it's really disingenuous to suggest that the solution to this is to go out and make your own movies. If I don't like the job that Obama's doing, should I go run for president then? If I don't like my car, should I go make my own? No, that obviously ridiculous just as I wouldn't want to go and remake The Dark Knight or something just with my own additions. This video is intended to raise awareness of the issue so that the people who DO make movies may pay attention and change something.