I thought that Rumsfeld's portrayal of an innocent old man was Oscar-worthy. He kept in character for almost the whole interview. I think his witty comeback "why'd you say 'at least' twice" flattered his own ego too much and he broke character for 4-5 seconds. Watch his body language,(12.45-12.50, last clip). That's Donald Rumsfeld. Then he slipped back into 'sweet old man', with a sweet little laugh.

Hey Drach, sorry if I offended with the 'bollocks' comment, (I was chillin with Mary J last night) and like you said we'll find out in a couple of days. I think you may have missed my point though.

Either:

.A. Channels and water are real, some columns MAY be added/removed in post-production. (My explanation.)

OR

.B. He created whole 'machine' entirely in a 3D program. (Your explanation, I think?) He would have had set up the same 3-point lighting in the program for the shadows to match. In addition he also had to have either an animated alpha map of himself, or a 3D model (animated to match his movement) to create the shadow that travels across the structure. He also did a pretty good job with the dynamic animation of the fluid flowing up the channel. There would also be several smaller additional scripts for the water as it falls, and splashes off the wheel.

So to conclude, as I said before, it COULD be entirely 'CGI',(not my personal belief, but I'll certainly accept that) but to describe the process as 'a simple trick' does not give the creator the credit he deserves.

.A. = Several hours of carpentry + 2-3 hours on the computer + Setup and planning time.

.B. = At least a week in 3D program (That's being conservative, that alpha mapped shadow animation would be a bitch, no?) + Compositing + Setup and planning.

HOW IS .B. 'A SIMPLE TRICK'. If you can elaborate on this for me, I'd really like to learn the process you would use. Again no offense meant. I have only worked in the field for 10 years and I really only know Maya expertly, so I might learn a thing or two off you if you could explain how you would do it. Cheers J.

I think Payback pretty much has it. Except, IMHO, I think some of the columns (vertical) were cropped/created using AFX/Maya type programs.
I work in Maya , Max , CAD , AFX etc... Drach's comments about shadows and 'his eye' were as vague as him saying "I work in CGI". Sorry, but 'bollocks mate'. The only shadow (raytraced) inconsistencies are on 'some' of the columns, and their corresponding shadows. Dystopian, I'll bet money that the water is real, as well as the channels it runs in. However some of the columns do not receive or create shadows as they should. If he did create the water in a 3D program, he should be working for one of the major animation houses as a fluid dynamics animator, but I don't think he did. I could be wrong though, because this was NOT a simple trick.

I love the sift, mostly because of the level of intelligence often displayed in the comments. But "CGI" is a vague term that could be used by anyone who's seen Lord of the Rings. If you know what you're talking about, be more specific please. You don't need to 'dumb it down', this isn't YouTube. >> ^Drachen_Jager:

Yeah, you can see it in the shadow-interaction if you look closely. The whole structure also stands out as a bit 'off' to me, but I work with CGI so I guess I have a trained eye.
The giveaway is the shadows though. Freeze frame it when his shadow is half on the structure. The edge of the shadow is blurred on the waterfall, but it's crisp on the floor.
>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
CGI water? I think you could pull something like this off with a hidden pump. I'd be disappointed if it were just CGI. >> ^Drachen_Jager:
It's just CGI guys. Pretty simple trick.
Very well done though.

Your argument seems confused to me sir. Access to guns = Killings at school?
You are right though, same 'pattern' can be observed here. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/sep/23/finland.schoolsworldwide .
IMO only certain trained professionals (+psych eval) absolutely require, and therefore, should have access to non-sporting guns, thats it. If you want to have access to guns designed to kill people (alot, quickly, efficiently), and defend your fellow countryman, become a trained professional. >> ^Buck:

"In 2007, a deranged student killed 32 people at Virginia Tech -- 30 of them in a very short period of time in one building. He didn't need high-capacity magazines because he had two guns and reloaded.
There was no one to stop him.
School shootings that have been halted were almost always stopped by the happenstance of an armed citizen on school property.
In 2002, an immigrant in Virginia started shooting his classmates at the Appalachian Law School in Grundy. Two of his classmates retrieved guns from their cars, forcing the killer to drop his weapon and allowing a third classmate to tackle him.
Thrre dead.
In Santee, Calif., in 2001, when a student began shooting his classmates, the school activated its "safe school plan" -- as the principal later told CNN -- by sending a "trained campus supervisor" to stop the killer.
Possibly not realizing that he was in a gun-free zone, the killer responded by shooting the trained campus supervisor three times. Fortunately, an armed off-duty San Diego policeman happened to be bringing his daughter to school that day. With a gun, he stopped the killer and held him at bay until more police could arrive.
Two dead.
In 1997, a student at Pearl High School in Pearl, Miss., had already shot several people at his high school and was headed for the junior high school when assistant principal Joel Myrick retrieved a .45 pistol from his car and pointed it at the gunman's head, ending the slaughter.
Two dead.
In 1998, a student attending a junior high school dance at a restaurant in Edinboro, Pa., started shooting, whereupon the restaurant owner pulled out his shotgun, chased the gunman from the restaurant and captured him for the police.
One dead.
See the pattern?"
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"Letter writer Barry Ruhl is concerned about a new gun law being proposed in Florida. The changes would bring Florida's laws in line with Utah's. Both require a permit to carry a concealed handgun, but in Utah open-carry is also allowed. It would also allow non-felons to carry in all public places including schools. Ruhl fears that this will degrade public safety.
I would like to point out that Utah's murder rate is just 1.3 per 100,000 and it has never had a school shooting. When Utah enacted its handgun carry laws in 1995, its murder rate was 3.9, three times higher than it is today. Canada's murder rate is 1.8.
In each and every state that has passed a handgun carry law, all rates of crime have dropped immediately and significantly."

He hits him with two vertical 'hammer' swings , then a further seven times with horizontal 'hooking' motions. He uses his full upper body and hips, as opposed to just arms, and backswings before each strike. Factoring in the annoying drunk hanging onto his ankles, it would be reasonable to assume he was hitting as hard as he could. However, he was hitting him on the arse, every strike. you can see it clearly on the video.
>> ^schlub:

This video doesn't even show the guy getting hit. Yes, it shows the off-duty cop swinging a baton, but you can't actually see it hit the guy (meaning, you can't see what part of the guy's body is being hit, nor can you see how hard he might be getting hit). Also, you can't see him use the "pepper spray" either. All you see is a can in his hand - and we learn through narration that he was sprayed -- since the camera's pointed at the dash at the time. She says he has a bloody lip, but, you can't see the blood in the video.
Additionally, you can't see what the guy on the ground is doing.
I'm just sayin's all
Just because a cop uses force to subdue someone doesn't mean it's an abuse of power.

"You were only s'posed to blow the bloody doors off!" {Michael Caine, Italian job, proper version)

His reaction at 1:21 is hilarious. He looks like he literally gets slapped in the face by the stupidity.

Agreed Bone, the fire is from the tyres getting above the ignition temp of the rubber. I high pressure fuel leak on that kind of engine would have a much more dramatic effect. Also to Ant. I could be wrong but I think the tyre popped at 1:25. That could be the engine backfiring a little as he lets off though. Not sure.

"Hi, I'm Jonny Knoxville, and this is 'Monkey car'."

I've worked on those lathes, and I'm an amputee, (not lathe related:), so I could not agree more with Duckman. At my school a kid didn't tuck his tie in properly and it caught in the lathe. Luckily our teacher, who was a very big bloke, was right behind him and yoked him up by the neck before his face hit the chuck. His ripped tie hung was above the lathe with a little sign reminding students to tuck in their ties.

Noble effort for such a little guy. The power came from the follow through.

I just hope that Jared guy never does hard time. He's so pretty without the make-up.

Tough looking guy, but he'd be squashed by Jonah Lomu, who ran through whole french team on his own. http://videosift.com/video/Insaine-Tackles-and-Tries-Jonah-Lomu.Not the best video, but gives an idea of what a monster he was.

"We're using an electric drill because sparks from the motor give natural selection a little extra chance"

I'm sure this woman studied hard, earning her place as a professional public speaker because of her character, intelligence, and eloquence. She should not be treated like a ditsy blonde who waves her arms around in a distracting manner while talking.....?