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here's the guild singing a little christmas ditty: http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Guild-A-Christmas-Raid-Carol

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lol thanks, will do! i've got to get my bronze star SOMEtime!

In reply to this comment by ant:
Sure and thanks! You should submit that Christmas one!

In reply to this comment by CalamityKate:
ant, you wanted to know when new "watch the guild" episodes were posted... it's not exactly a new episode, but they just posted "a guild christmas carol."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q21iitT0VL4

i've got them in my bloglines now so i'll be sure to catch new episodes and let you know; should i just post links in the comments of the original video? thanks for posting this, i really like it!

ant, you wanted to know when new "watch the guild" episodes were posted... it's not exactly a new episode, but they just posted "a guild christmas carol."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q21iitT0VL4

i've got them in my bloglines now so i'll be sure to catch new episodes and let you know; should i just post links in the comments of the original video? thanks for posting this, i really like it!

i knew the main girl looked familiar! her name is felicia day, and she played one of the new slayers on the last season of buffy the vampire slayer. /trivia

cute :-)

i'm glad you got where i'm coming from and were able to put it more eloquently than me, raven. i'm sorry you've had those experiences though; that sucks! i read smibbo's reply to you here just now, and it's a good example of how polarizing this video has been. you specifically said several times in your comment that this treatment by men is NOT based on the "beauty" factor, but it's hard not to get emotional about this stuff i guess.

In reply to this comment by raven:
I agree with Kate that it is wrong to assume that the girl in the video is crying over nothing, or she is doing so just because she is beautiful... granted, that bit was lumped together with the other pretty minor complaints by everyone else, but I would think that the mere fact that she is crying is probably indicative that whatever it was she experienced was indeed pretty terrible... because as she said, some comments just do not make you feel pretty, they make you feel objectified, and even dirty.

I'm not talking about the basic, "You're very pretty" kind of compliment, but the kind that borders on, or is, sexual harrassment... you can't know unless its happened to you how terribly frightening and disgusting it is to be trapped in a elevator with a man who can't help but stare lecherously at you, and then ventures to say (true story), "I'd like to fuck you if you let me" Out of the blue, just like that, its terrifying, does not make one feel pretty but rather dirty somehow, and yes, it does bring out tears. Or there are even sometimes worse incidents involving coworkers or fellow students, where the objectification is continuous and after a while it becomes more than tiresome but rather stressful to have them all keep track of what you wear everyday, whether or not it shows off anything, or have them (rather publicly) get a pool going to see which of them will get to fuck you first (not kidding, guys, who are seemingly otherwise professional sorts, do actually do this kind of shit), which makes you begin to hate yourself and not want to go into school or work everyday. I'm not suggesting that this does not happen to those who aren't considered "beautiful" (whatever that cultural construct might currently be), but its damaging, and I can completely relate to where that girl is probably coming from.

"Take a look at all of this. Can you find a single woman who hasn't chimed in "Oh no! My life is terrible, too. Other people think i'm pretty!" Look really hard. You'll probably only find one, and that's only because she hasn't been on here in quite a while.

Maybe you should all (with the exception of Smibbo) stop posting about how life is oh-so-terrible because you're beautiful. Maybe the problem is that you need your head examined because you don't have the self-esteem to handle compliments." [quoting LitteRed]

maybe that's how my comment came across, but that's absolutely not what i was trying to get at. what i empathize with is not the experience of "oh, i'm hot, i get things, it's a burden" but "i feel devalued and dehumanized when i'm judged by my looks alone." and that includes "positive" or "negative" reactions.

i'm glad that you have high self-esteem, but your post was really condescending. the people in this video are reporting THEIR experiences of being beautiful people. it's a documentary asking about their personal experiences. you have some ideas on the problem here. maybe another problem here is that you are projecting your experiences onto these people (and those of us who posted things that go against your opinions).

and for chaucer up there with the mean comments about the lady at the end, you have no idea what motivates her tears. i realize it's my projection now but what i felt from her was sadness, not self-pity.

did anyone else notice that the one with straight blonde hair got a haircut halfway through filming? check out :50 for the long hair and 3:01 for a cuter, choppy cut.

hey CaptainP, cuteoverload is right up there on my favorites bar, i swear it! ;-)

lol, thanks raven :-)

"Sorry, but wtf? They feel they can't afford to be vulnerable, themselves, real? Are you saying that their need to remain attractive forces them to act in a certain way? That's just vanity." [quoting dannym3141]

in my experience, the need to remain SAFE (sometimes emotionally, sometimes physically) forces me to act a certain way at times, closing off my natural openness in meeting people for one thing. gaining weight or losing weight at different times to try to be invisible, body modifications that put people off, not taking care of my appearance at all -- those are some of the options i've exercised to avoid "flattering" attention based solely on my looks. i'm NOT saying i've ever been one of the uber-hot, btw. but i can empathize with them based on my own experiences.

sorry if that was TMI, but that's a lot of what i like at VS: real thought-and-discussion-provoking videos, not *just* cute kittens, though that's great too.