I didn't think it was an attack on mothers that use formula, more the companies that make them believe they have a need to. Sorry if it came across that way to you

What a funny video! My Daughter (6 months old) has cerebral palsey, we (of course) wont know the extent until later on. I hope if she does have a severe case, she can see the funny side of her condition like these fellas

Wow! I have to say that is the first baby I have seen being born, and it kinda makes me wish we had a video of our 2!

The birth of my boy (from what I remember)was similar to that, I was very calm and estatic when he was born. My daugther's labour went for 3 days and by the end the midwife said 'ok push' and I had no energy left.

Very proud to say I did both without any pain relief although both bubs were prem and weighed 3lb 6oz and 2lb 4oz. I would love to have a full term baby next time and experience a birh like this especially where my bub could be bought straight to me.

Beautiful persephone

P.S. Persephone was what I wanted to call our daughter but hubby thought it was too out there... I love that name

gorgeous!

Interesting that you think that your mate that was fed til he was 5 is "kind of messed up in a lot of ways." because of the way he was fed as an infant/child... are you saying that all men who are obsessed with the breast must have been fed for an extended time? My hubby was formula fed after 4 months and he LOVES my boobs, and still gets much guidence from his parents and hates making big decissions without their approval... whereas I was fed for 4 1/2 years and have been bought up to be very independant from my parents, and also don't have any sort of sexual perversions.

There are many people (especially men) who "needs mothering, constant comforting, constant reassurance, and lashes out like a brat whenever he doesn't get what he wants" regardless of how they were fed as a child/ how long they were fed for. There are many aspects of their upbringing that would influence that.

I just wanted to point out what minerals are found in breastmilk, I realise that they are found in many foods, but it was more because of the comment "but there is nothing more that an 8y/o child is getting from breast milk at this point in her life" Infact, next time you have a nice cuppa, it would certainly be much better for you if instead of reaching for that carton in the fridge I leaned over your coffee.....;)

"they don't care that they are stretch-marked and saggy..." Pregnancy tends to do the stretch mark thing to your boobs... not feeding. I had a stillborn first up and after her my boobs were alot saggy-er then pre-pregnancy days, and (obviously) I didn't get to feed her. I don't think (and my hubby aggrees) that they are any more saggy now and I have been feeding for the past 19 months. Oh, and I have never had a stretch mark and I doubt that they would come because of feeding for a long time, you would be more likely to get them when your milk comes in (in the first few days after having a child) and it feels like you have watermelons on your chest.

Persephone - 9 months ago I was 3 months pregnant with my Daughter and probably hanging over a toilet bowl feeling sorry for myself and trying to keep a 10 month old boy out of mischeif. Don't worry though, if I had read this (wish I had)I certainly would have posted back then

Just got to add... the reason we drink cows milk isn't that scientists have found that it is a nutricinaly superior, it is that we can easily farm and make $'s off cows and it wont kill most of us if we drink it!

It is NOT the normal thing for us to drink, we just do it because it is excepted that we do, and that it is what our parents used to put onto our cereal in the morning.

I am feeding both my children -19 months and 6 months at the moment and plan on doing so until they self wean.

I find it interesting that so many people are disgusted and replused by feeding an older child, but (i'll bet) none of you actually find drinking the milk of a differnt species, that was never intended for human consumption when created fine. Just because it comes to you in a sterile plastic container with a picture of a nice smiling, waving lady on the front does not mean it never came from a smelly, sweaty dirty cow in a padock somewhere and was created for a baby cow.

How can you say that those children are not receiving benifit from the milk they are recieving? It is far better for them then cows milk.

I read through the blurb in a baby and todler cookbook I have and breastmilk contains
*protien
*fat
*essential fatty acids
*carbohydrates
*vitamin A
*thiamin (vitamin b1)
*riboflavin (vitamin b2)
*niacin (vitamin b3)
*vitamin b12
*folic acid
*vitamin c
*vitamin d
*vitamin e
*iron
*calcium
*zinc

Many of those are not found in cows milk, as baby cows don't really need to be to clever, they just need fatening up.

I could go on about this for ages....