Refining Channels

Hi everybody, Dr.Nick here, with a bit of good news for all you insects.

As some of you who care may be aware of, by some spontaneous effort on the part of a person/user with status and appeal, I was welcomed back with open arms to this masturbatory romp called Videosift®, that after I had shit upon a few users, thanks to all who know and love the input, I'll be here all week, yer all beautiful....

With my powers restored, I tried to push the envelope by creating yet another channel(choggie birthed 3 during his infamous tenure, all bastard children that others take way better care of than myself)... Ornthoron, thanks for dealing with "jazz", EIA is still the sifts since Karaidl is "P' now and has killed his contributions, and the wildwestshow is about to die... one of those, "girl makes you do crazy shit" kinna channels, we love and miss you Raven.

Anyhoo, I created a new channel because I had the power afforded me by way of campiondelmundo's tireless efforts to improve the place while making everyone happy or otherwise ignoring function over form.....the new channel sits dormant (now abandoned) awaiting disapproval, however...-I DON'T WANT A CHANNEL!

uhhh....WE WANT THE SIFT TO MAKE $$$$, GET HITS, ETC.

I apologize beforehand for posting this e-mail from RS to me regarding my wonder at why no new channel, and propose the following consideration with a view to helping this place tick, sputter,fire and wail, on all twelve cylinders.....REFINE CHANNELS!
Surrender like for like and make this project a special thing. We don't need to have channel assignments loaded with unrefined egos...

(Brian Houston
to me, Rommel



[New channels are actually a bit of a problem for us it turns out. They are bad for the way we get indexed in Google and actually result in us getting less traffic and advertising revenue - this has to do with page rank and splitting duplicate content over different URLs. So while we're happy to award people a channel when they reach that milestone- and take the hit that comes from it - we don't want to encourage multiple channels per user.

I still feel that as you've had 3 channels (more than anyone else on the Sift) that should be enough. You can appeal to the Sift for a second opinion - but this is how we stand now.]

Thanks, admins....I concur-Here's some reference material:


http://1sttube.videosift.com/talk/Refining-Channels
http://www.videosift.com/talk/GooTube-categories
http://www.videosift.com/talk/Where-to-now-VideoSift
http://geek.videosift.com/talk/Channel-Categories



Whittle the shit down (I will get the ball rolling by abandoning the wildwestshow)

Up to y'all to figure out the details...campioin??? Please eliminate the wildwestshow, I can't, it belongs to the collective.

Have a (NICE) day....and you allllll know how much I fucking hate that particular phrase, all you pussies. whatz'actly is a "nice" day, anyhow?
choggie says...

^awww shit, it's simply the colors assigned to this channel....*slowbellcurvemotherfuckerme...even though the creators of the same were racist fucksticks and so full of themselves they shit their own praises-

gwiz665 says...

I too would like to see a refinement of the channels we have, I'm not certain that just cutting a heel and a toe is the best way to do it, though. I'd like to see some grand changes in it, maybe with subchannels where it's applicable, such as music -> genres. Or with more clear grouping in categories, like I (and many others) have suggested earlier.

The google categories are pretty good although talks is sadly absent :
Action & Adventure
Ads & Promotional
Anime & Animation
Art & Experimental
Business
Children & Family
Comedy
Dance
Documentary
Drama
Educational
Entertainment
Faith & Spirituality
Foreign
Gaming
Gay & Lesbian
Health & Fitness
Home Video
Horror
Independent
Mature & Adult
Movie (feature)
Movie (short)
Movie Trailer
Music & Musical
Nature
News
Political
Religious
Romance
Science & Technology
Sci-Fi & Fantasy
Special Interest
Sports
Stock Footage
Thriller
Travel
TV Show
Western

ReverendTed says...

I'm incredibly confused, choggie boy.
You upvoted my comment, but then regretted your upvote, and then recanted (something), but then realized something about the channel colors...
And I'm left wondering what the junk just happened.

blutruth says...

I should start by saying that I have no idea how the "stuff under the hood" of this site works, but it would seem like the channel assignments should exist only in the backend (database--SQL?) and should only be queried when the video details are requested (search, view, edit, etc...). Maybe I'm misunderstanding the part about "duplicate content over multiple URLs", but surely there must be a way to abstract the channel information/data from the URL part of things. Unless they're referring to videos with multiple channels...I don't know, I'm starting to think in circles.

I agree that there are a lot of channels out there, but killing off channels (especially to solve what seems to be a technical issue), seems to be a BIG DEAL®. I'd like to hear from the devs on this...is there no other way?

Just curious.

campionidelmondo says...

I've always been in favor of reorganizing the channels. Don't get me wrong, the idea of letting people create channels is great, but I think it's gotten a bit messy as a result. The wall of checkboxes on the video submit page is an example of the messiness.

Of course I understand that people don't want to part with their channels, and in a way they've earned them, so it wouldn't be fair to take channels from their owners.

Subchannels looks like the perfect compromise here. They would be broad and sometimes replace a channel (Entertainment, Science & Nature, Sports & Recreation, Music), but there just wouldn't be so many of them, making it alot more organized and friendly.

Oh and chogge, I neither made it possible for you to create a new channel, nor have the ability to delete one of your exisiting ones. Please direct such requests to one of the admins.

ReverendTed says...

>> ^blutruth:
I should start by saying that I have no idea how the "stuff under the hood" of this site works, but it would seem like the channel assignments should exist only in the backend (database--SQL?) and should only be queried when the video details are requested (search, view, edit, etc...). Maybe I'm misunderstanding the part about "duplicate content over multiple URLs", but surely there must be a way to abstract the channel information/data from the URL part of things.

I think they're talking about how the channels are subdomains. e.g.: music.videosift.com, wtf.videosift.com

(Also, we might have too many channels already, but we desperately need a *fake channel.)

Deano says...

I never really understood or, to be honest, even liked the whole subdomain thing. It makes navigation trickier when you get "stuck" on a subdomain and can't be that good for casual visitors.

If it also harms the traffic then it might be a time to dump it. I would be much happier typing www.videosift.com/comedy for example.

xxovercastxx says...

I think the collective sift has come out wholly in support of that "wall of checkboxes." I still think a whole lot of channels could disappear and have almost zero impact on the site. I'm not saying they should be taken from people, but certainly there are channels which are both borderline useless and abandoned.

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