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Second Graders React to Lammily Doll (realistic proportions)

Mom Does Doll Do-Overs With A Natural Look And Wins Internet

RFlagg says...

I seem to recall seeing another video on how kids (inclusive of little girls) given the choice between a Barbie and more realistically proportioned and made up doll, prefer the more realistic one.

Mom Does Doll Do-Overs With A Natural Look And Wins Internet

bobknight33 says...

Hope your just kidding. This is wonderful. Kids ( my daughter) are only left with slutty over makes up type dolls. it sends a negative expectation on how a girl should be dressed.

ledpup said:

It's just swapping one expectation of female beauty with another. At least the glitzy ones are out having fun while the tree-changers worry about whether their coffee is organic enough.

Every 90s Commercial Ever (uncensored version)

5 Yr Old Girl Discusses Princes Leia's Slave Outfit With Dad

SDGundamX says...

If only that were true.

This girl is 5 years old. Over the past 5 years, in every commercial she's seen on TV, on every magazine cover she's seen by the checkout counter when she's grocery shopping with her parents, in the majority of the cartoons she's watched and the dolls she's probably played with, in every reaction she's seen in adults' faces to how women dress and behave, she's been culturally programmed with and internalized what modern Western society deems as "beautiful."

It's unavoidable, really, as @Truckchase pointed out above. It's part of the socialization process. But if you've read about how Carrie Fisher struggled with body image issues and eating disorders throughout the filming of the original trilogy, then you probably (like me) find this video more tragic than cute.

Asmo said:

Good for the kid, she just made a decision based on what she found visually appealing without the entire patriarchy/matriarchy telling her what to think...

It won't last, but enjoy it while you can!

5 Yr Old Girl Discusses Princes Leia's Slave Outfit With Dad

bareboards2 says...

I feel the same way when a young boy plays with dolls and likes the color pink.

He isn't polluted by other messages, he is just an observor.

Doesn't last with him either, poor guy.

We are so fricking weird about the human body. I swear.

Asmo said:

Good for the kid, she just made a decision based on what she found visually appealing without the entire patriarchy/matriarchy telling her what to think...

It won't last, but enjoy it while you can!

Which doll is the nice doll

flight lessons via pallet jack

Sniper007 says...

It's amazing how fully he committed himself to the roll of rag doll, right up to the very end. Not even a hint of self preservation or normal reflex.

Which doll is the nice doll

Sagemind says...

I partially blame the dolls they are using.
I don't think there was any consideration taken to find ethnically accurate dolls. Maybe that black doll was ugly. It looked ugly to me, and not because it was black.
I think doll makers and the companies purchasing the dolls need demand new scupts for different ethnicity. Just changing the colour, doesn't make it a black doll..., or an oriental, a native, or any other ethnicity.

Documentary by 17 yr old recreates the "doll test" from 50s (skip to 3:20)

Which doll is the nice doll

Which doll is the nice doll

Documentary by 17 yr old recreates the "doll test" from 50s (skip to 3:20)

siftbot says...

Tags for this video have been changed from 'documentary, race, racial, doll test, psychology' to 'documentary, race, racial, doll test, psychology, a girl like me' - edited by eric3579

Embedded Racism for little girls. Thanks, Corporate America!

bareboards2 says...

This video hit the internet last January. At the time, the company only had one black doll. Now they have five dolls of color.

eric3579 above made reference to a comment the company made on an internet article about this vid. They corrected the pricing error in the vid (dolls without accessories are cheaper). They also said they were planning on coming out with a Deluxe black doll.

Everything you say is correct and reasonable. I just doubt that they ARE as rational and careful about hitting all markets. You didn't address my comment about the Bechtal test and the irrationality of moviemakers. I have the evidence of an entire industry being irrational. I don't see why dollmakers would be assumed to be exempt from the same forces.

Those in power don't pay attention to those not in power, until the formerly powerless start making noise.

And you do misunderstand the point of this vid. The lack of Deluxe black dolls isn't a CAUSE of racism. It is a RESULT of a white dominated society that minimizes black people as consumers. Maybe. This is all conjecture, of course.

That Deluxe black doll is coming though! Hallejuah!

AeroMechanical said:

Well, I would say the important difference is whether their decision was based on statistics and decent market analysis, or whether it was just somebody's assumption. It certainly must be tricky when you have a line of products, the different models of which are specifically intended for a particular race. Then you have to look at the demographics of each race separately. You need racially divided focus groups and so on. Obviously, I don't know their particular story, but I wouldn't be quick to judge the company. Though it would be nice, capitalism doesn't generally allow companies to be fair and just for its own sake. If they're stuck with a quarter million unsold deluxe black dolls in their warehouse after christmas, some other less just company will eat their lunch. The free market isn't going to solve racism.

This situation is a nice, simple but poignant illustration of the effects of chronic systemic racism, but I wouldn't go looking for any causes of it here.

Embedded Racism for little girls. Thanks, Corporate America!

AeroMechanical says...

Well, I would say the important difference is whether their decision was based on statistics and decent market analysis, or whether it was just somebody's assumption. It certainly must be tricky when you have a line of products, the different models of which are specifically intended for a particular race. Then you have to look at the demographics of each race separately. You need racially divided focus groups and so on. Obviously, I don't know their particular story, but I wouldn't be quick to judge the company. Though it would be nice, capitalism doesn't generally allow companies to be fair and just for its own sake. If they're stuck with a quarter million unsold deluxe black dolls in their warehouse after christmas, some other less just company will eat their lunch. The free market isn't going to solve racism.

This situation is a nice, simple but poignant illustration of the effects of chronic systemic racism, but I wouldn't go looking for any causes of it here.



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