>> ^shuac:
One question for you, Sarzy. You say this film is a milestone. I'm sure you're right. Can you tell me why this film is a milestone?


Because the fight choreography and direction are peerless; the film's fight scenes easily rival anything that I've ever seen, and I've seen my share of action movies.

Because the critical consensus is that it's an instant classic.

Because it's breaking through into the mainstream more than any martial arts film I can think of since Ong Bak.

Because it is awesome.

Some quotes from reviews:

David Fear -- Time Out: And in terms of beautifully coordinated film violence—the kind involving flying fists and feet, whizzing blades and ballistic superbattles—Gareth Evans’s insta-classic Indonesian crime flick is leagues above every kinetic bullet-ballet and martial arts epic of the past decade. Whether this 31-year-old Welsh director will eventually be mentioned in the same breath as legendary chaos orchestrators like Sam Peckinpah or John Woo remains to be seen. For now, Evans can take pride in the fact that he’s set the bar for cinemayhem impossibly high.

Andrew O'Hehir -- Salon: “The Raid” is a witty, pulse-pounding instant midnight classic, an immediate sensation at the Sundance and Toronto festivals that should appeal to cinema buffs, action freaks and a pretty large mainstream audience besides. It offers some of the best Asian martial-arts choreography of recent years and an electric, claustrophobic puzzle-palace atmosphere that’ll leave you wrung out and buzzed.

Ty Burr -- Boston Globe: Not yet 30, Evans is a master of visceral tension and release. “The Raid’’ repeatedly slows down, gathers force, and rushes forward using all the elements of filmmaking at a director’s disposal: editing’s ability to expand and contract time; the camera’s gift for revealing information through motion and light; a good musical score (by Joseph Trapanese and Linkin Park’s Mike Shinoda) that can cue audiences to respond or just play with their heads. At times, “The Raid’’ feels like pure cinema.

Nordling -- Ain't it Cool: Then, there are the action sequences, which are so exquisitely orchestrated that they build like a symphonic suite of pain and kickassocity. This movie builds and builds, each fight even bigger than the one before it. I can't imagine an audience that won't be on their feet for some of them - and the action choreography is damn near perfect, with cinematography to match. Sure, there's some shakycam, but it's only to build the intensity because Uwais and director Gareth Evans have planned each fight so well that it's never confusing, not once. The geography is flawless. The film wisely lays out the building early on, so that you unconsciously understand where everyone is in the building and even in the same room. I haven't seen such confident action direction since John Woo unleashed the doves in THE KILLER and, yeah, HARD BOILED.

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^heathen:
>> ^Boise_Lib:
In this clip Tim Robbins is teaching Rhys Ifans (who was raised as an ape in the woods) self control.

Just another blatant example of the socially acceptable racism against the Welsh!
Sure Rhys Ifans may be a little weird, but he wasn't raised as an ape in the woods.
Maybe you meant the character played by Rhys Ifans?

Nice Rob Brydon reference from Qi! We truly are internet whores.


Thanks.

>> ^heathen:

>> ^Boise_Lib:
In this clip Tim Robbins is teaching Rhys Ifans (who was raised as an ape in the woods) self control.

Just another blatant example of the socially acceptable racism against the Welsh!
Sure Rhys Ifans may be a little weird, but he wasn't raised as an ape in the woods.
Maybe you meant the character played by Rhys Ifans?


Nice Rob Brydon reference from Qi! We truly are internet whores.

>> ^Yogi:

JESUS FUCK I love Irish women. Why don't I move to Ireland just the most beautiful accents ever!


I guess it's a case of wanting what you don't have. I grew up in Ireland, but I love women with welsh accents. Well, not all of them...

Hi Enoch, my comment was more aimed at the production style of the video itself and how it glorified this ex-junkie, not necessarily about the religious aspect at all. But seeing as you asked...

"this is about redemption"

I think it's about a man who was taking drugs that stopped taking drugs. You can call this redemptive in a loose sense. I think "recovery" would be closer to the mark, and also is free of any irrelevant religious connotation.

"in my travels i have come to the conclusion that those who suffer from addiction (of any kind) are battling an emptiness or pain within themselves,in one form or another."

I don't agree. There's a myriad of reasons while people become addicted to things ranging from the psychological to the physical. Yours reason is, however, possibly one of them - but to say that this is the main one is an over simplification.

"that is the beauty of this story. This man found his redemption in the form of jesus christ.
he found forgiveness in christ. Would you deny him this for the simple fact he started on the road to addiction years ago? Who cares if he found salvation in jesus or a talking box of captain crunch.
the fact that he found something that helped give him the strength to deal with his addiction should suffice,no matter what vehicle it was that helped him to defeat his own personal demons.
"

I'm glad he didn't die and has turned his life around by whatever method. But what now if, clear of his crisis, he realises that the pillar of his recovery is a fictional deity. Hopefully he wouldn't falter in his sobriety, but if Jesus really is as important in the equasion as he seems to be here then there could be a problem. He should be putting himself and his daughter first, not jesus. Brian Welsh and his daughter, unlike jesus, actually exist.


"have you been a junkie?
are you speaking from experience?"

No I've not been a junkie, but I've seen how drug and alcohol addiction and it's effects on peoples lives around me. This is not, of course, the same as being a junkie, but why do you ask?

"should we abandon all those who make bad choices to their own devices?"

This is falsely reductive statement. Just because I think the tone of this video is all wrong, and that it falsely deifies this ex-junkie doesn't mean that I think people who suffer from addiction should not be treated.I don't think anything I've said implied that.

"Because i have found that nobody can experience this journey we call life alone and those that have convinced themselves they can are deluding themselves."

Not sure of the relevance of this statement, but anyway... Yes of course life is much better and easier when we are not alone - as it is also if one was recovering from addiction.

I do however think that, in terms of deluding oneself, believing that there's a supernatural deity that's going to save you from all harm is one of the ultimate delusions. And a very dangerous one.

>> ^alien_concept:

>> ^zombieater:
How ironic, a British person complaining about people "invading" their country.

Think people need to start being specific. It was England that took over the world, not Britain. There's plenty of Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish people who wouldn't want to be tarred with that brush you're using
She looks very much like someone coming off drugs, or maybe coming down from them. Poor kid clearly hears that mouth often, he's entirely unfazed by it


Good point. England, then!

>> ^alien_concept:

>> ^zombieater:
How ironic, a British person complaining about people "invading" their country.

Think people need to start being specific. It was England that took over the world, not Britain. There's plenty of Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish people who wouldn't want to be tarred with that brush you're using
She looks very much like someone coming off drugs, or maybe coming down from them. Poor kid clearly hears that mouth often, he's entirely unfazed by it


My name is Inigo Montoya. The Welsh killed my father. Prepare to die.

Don't worry, Britain and England are synonymous for most people and judging by how politics is going in Scotland, they want to strengthen that definition as well

>> ^alien_concept:

>> ^zombieater:
How ironic, a British person complaining about people "invading" their country.

Think people need to start being specific. It was England that took over the world, not Britain. There's plenty of Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish people who wouldn't want to be tarred with that brush you're using
She looks very much like someone coming off drugs, or maybe coming down from them. Poor kid clearly hears that mouth often, he's entirely unfazed by it

>> ^zombieater:

How ironic, a British person complaining about people "invading" their country.


Think people need to start being specific. It was England that took over the world, not Britain. There's plenty of Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish people who wouldn't want to be tarred with that brush you're using

She looks very much like someone coming off drugs, or maybe coming down from them. Poor kid clearly hears that mouth often, he's entirely unfazed by it

Yes I have, I live very close to Devon, the county I'm in (Dorset) has what's known as a west country accent, along with Devon, Somerset and Cornwall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdfJySxOb6U&feature=related This is somewhat a Devonshire accent, I dunno if I can really hear the aussie in it, but you are clearly more qualified than me to deduce that

In reply to this comment by oritteropo:
Have you heard a Devon accent? To my ears that sounds as close to an Australian accent as the U.K. gets.

Not really on topic for the vid though, hence moving it here :
In reply to this comment by alien_concept:

Welsh accent doesn't sound American or even close. Pretty sure any British accent does not sound American or come close. Australian and English, perhaps, although i can't hear it, I accept a lot of people get that mixed up. Never ever heard of anyone mistaking any British accent for an American one, regardless of your immigration point.

"Even you" hehe ;

>> ^alien_concept:
>> ^csnel3:
>> ^quantumushroom:
Oh, where to begin?
There are probably dozens of these moments on the scorecard of every celebrity, great and small. I'll even give Obama a free pass for calling Hawaii "ASIA" during one of his many campaign stops taxpayer-funded vacations important meetings. Props to the libmedia who downplay His Earness's gaffes. His larger gaffes, like the economy, price of gasoline, failures as Commander-In-Chief, we'll leave to the few history books not written by leftards.
Referring to this BBC show: no one across the pond should be calling anyone here dumb. USA may be almost a police state, but Britain's been disarmed and defeated by socialism for decades. Bankrupt Eurounion. Smile for the 10,000,000 cameras, serfs.
Wales? Not enough to even register one who-gives-a-shit. Last time I heard of anything Welsh was a maintenance man killed by a werewolf in Stephen King's Silver Bullet.
Bush flew jets. You're a spoiled singer. Deal.
You're wearing me down QM. I actually agree with almost everything you just said. Will this cost me some power points or something?
Really though I dont respond well to criticisms from across the pond right now, I dont think they have our back, I'm not sure they have their own back.

Since when has criticism of your most retarded president been aimed at you or Americans? She certainly wasn't labelling you all, was she.
I guess my response was a kind of " Nobody picks on MY little brother but ME" attitude.

>> ^quantumushroom:

I take no pleasure in Britain quickening demise; anywhere socialism rises, freedom falls, that's how it always ends. Fortunately, neither my being a bot or you being a non-expert will make this explanation difficult:
People have unlimited wants and a supposed set of finite needs. When socialists attempt to satisfy basic needs (with other people's money) it works at first, until people realize they can satisfy more of their wants by relabeling them needs (or rights). Health care is a right. Daycare is a right. Living wage is a right, etc.
British "conservatism" is a far cry from American conservatism. Define it as, "Too little, too late".
Britain leads Europe in the proportion of single mothers and co-leads the European Union in violent crime, alcohol and drug abuse, obesity and sexually transmitted diseases. Yep, that must all be due to conservatism! Certainly the welfare state wouldn't destroy people's interest in helping themselves.


>> ^dannym3141:
>> ^csnel3:
>> ^quantumushroom:
Oh, where to begin?
There are probably dozens of these moments on the scorecard of every celebrity, great and small. I'll even give Obama a free pass for calling Hawaii "ASIA" during one of his many campaign stops taxpayer-funded vacations important meetings. Props to the libmedia who downplay His Earness's gaffes. His larger gaffes, like the economy, price of gasoline, failures as Commander-In-Chief, we'll leave to the few history books not written by leftards.
Referring to this BBC show: no one across the pond should be calling anyone here dumb. USA may be almost a police state, but Britain's been disarmed and defeated by socialism for decades. Bankrupt Eurounion. Smile for the 10,000,000 cameras, serfs.
Wales? Not enough to even register one who-gives-a-shit. Last time I heard of anything Welsh was a maintenance man killed by a werewolf in Stephen King's Silver Bullet.
Bush flew jets. You're a spoiled singer. Deal.
You're wearing me down QM. I actually agree with almost everything you just said. Will this cost me some power points or something?
Really though I dont respond well to criticisms from across the pond right now, I dont think they have our back, I'm not sure they have their own back.

Heh. I guess i better say something like "Welcome to the UK, bitch!" Nice insult. But don't get too in-depth with QM, i suspect he's actually just a cleverly programmed bot that repeats political catchphrases and buzzwords from fox news.
For example - margaret thatcher was in power up until 1990 and elected 11 years before that. So i think it's fairly safe to say that she was in charge of "Britain" 20 years ago. Margaret thatcher was not a socialist - she was incredibly critical of it, and her policies reflected that.
Many of Britain's big state owned companies/whatever were privatised, john major followed and was himself a thatcherite, followed by labour around the millennium who were more willing to adopt in-place conservative economic policies.
So it's relatively safe to say that britain has become significantly less socialist since 30 years ago and was well into that stride 20 years ago.
But of course, he's just a political catchphrase bot, that's why he said "Britain's been defeated by socialism since...", there's no meaning behind it.
I'm no expert on politics (which makes me immediately more qualified than QM), but i think one word you couldn't apply to margaret thatcher's britain is socialist.
We're IN a shit state because of thatcher. The Britain we all remember fondly? Amazing NHS, schools, industry, army, politeness, fairness? That's pre-80s britain, dude.



Then you have once more constructed a circular argument in which you win.

If socialism is in place, we are defeated by socialism.
If socialism is not in place, we are defeated by socialism?

You leave no criteria for the answer to be any different, as far as i can tell this argument leads to the idea that even if socialism didn't exist we'd be defeated by it.

>> ^alien_concept:


Welsh accent doesn't sound American or even close. Pretty sure any British accent does not sound American or come close. Australian and English, perhaps, although i can't hear it, I accept a lot of people get that mixed up. Never ever heard of anyone mistaking any British accent for an American one, regardless of your immigration point.
"Even you" hehe



The main point I was trying to get across was actually that equating a foreign accent (of someone currently IN America) with NOT being American, would be more prejudiced than assuming they were. The U.S. of A. F. Y. being the melting-pot of cultures it is. George Washington spoke with a South London accent. It has been noticed that at least one or two people have assumed he was American.