I take no pleasure in Britain quickening demise; anywhere socialism rises, freedom falls, that's how it always ends. Fortunately, neither my being a bot or you being a non-expert will make this explanation difficult:

People have unlimited wants and a supposed set of finite needs. When socialists attempt to satisfy basic needs (with other people's money) it works at first, until people realize they can satisfy more of their wants by relabeling them needs (or rights). Health care is a right. Daycare is a right. Living wage is a right, etc.

British "conservatism" is a far cry from American conservatism. Define it as, "Too little, too late".

Britain leads Europe in the proportion of single mothers and co-leads the European Union in violent crime, alcohol and drug abuse, obesity and sexually transmitted diseases. Yep, that must all be due to conservatism! Certainly the welfare state wouldn't destroy people's interest in helping themselves.




>> ^dannym3141:

>> ^csnel3:
>> ^quantumushroom:
Oh, where to begin?
There are probably dozens of these moments on the scorecard of every celebrity, great and small. I'll even give Obama a free pass for calling Hawaii "ASIA" during one of his many campaign stops taxpayer-funded vacations important meetings. Props to the libmedia who downplay His Earness's gaffes. His larger gaffes, like the economy, price of gasoline, failures as Commander-In-Chief, we'll leave to the few history books not written by leftards.
Referring to this BBC show: no one across the pond should be calling anyone here dumb. USA may be almost a police state, but Britain's been disarmed and defeated by socialism for decades. Bankrupt Eurounion. Smile for the 10,000,000 cameras, serfs.
Wales? Not enough to even register one who-gives-a-shit. Last time I heard of anything Welsh was a maintenance man killed by a werewolf in Stephen King's Silver Bullet.
Bush flew jets. You're a spoiled singer. Deal.
You're wearing me down QM. I actually agree with almost everything you just said. Will this cost me some power points or something?
Really though I dont respond well to criticisms from across the pond right now, I dont think they have our back, I'm not sure they have their own back.

Heh. I guess i better say something like "Welcome to the UK, bitch!" Nice insult. But don't get too in-depth with QM, i suspect he's actually just a cleverly programmed bot that repeats political catchphrases and buzzwords from fox news.
For example - margaret thatcher was in power up until 1990 and elected 11 years before that. So i think it's fairly safe to say that she was in charge of "Britain" 20 years ago. Margaret thatcher was not a socialist - she was incredibly critical of it, and her policies reflected that.
Many of Britain's big state owned companies/whatever were privatised, john major followed and was himself a thatcherite, followed by labour around the millennium who were more willing to adopt in-place conservative economic policies.
So it's relatively safe to say that britain has become significantly less socialist since 30 years ago and was well into that stride 20 years ago.
But of course, he's just a political catchphrase bot, that's why he said "Britain's been defeated by socialism since...", there's no meaning behind it.
I'm no expert on politics (which makes me immediately more qualified than QM), but i think one word you couldn't apply to margaret thatcher's britain is socialist.
We're IN a shit state because of thatcher. The Britain we all remember fondly? Amazing NHS, schools, industry, army, politeness, fairness? That's pre-80s britain, dude.

I have no interest in Wales (or whales, for that matter). People have different interests. If I win a free plane ticket to Wales I'll learn more about Wales before selling the ticket.

Yeah, you can make the argument that Bush and every other president is "campaigning" every time he stepped in front of a camera, but Bush also made real decisions, right or wrong. His Earness? Not a leader.

>> ^kymbos:

I was referring to your ignorance of the Welsh. As for 'campaign stops/taxpayer funded vacations', do you mean like this:

Have you heard a Devon accent? To my ears that sounds as close to an Australian accent as the U.K. gets.

Not really on topic for the vid though, hence moving it here
In reply to this comment by alien_concept:

Welsh accent doesn't sound American or even close. Pretty sure any British accent does not sound American or come close. Australian and English, perhaps, although i can't hear it, I accept a lot of people get that mixed up. Never ever heard of anyone mistaking any British accent for an American one, regardless of your immigration point.

"Even you" hehe

>> ^Payback:

I'm sorry, this isn't a Bush thickism.
Considering the United States is comprised, mainly, of immigrants and their children, assuming someone in America is American is just playing the odds. Immigrants don't just lose their accents once they've completed naturalization.
Considering the US has a global reach of media, and Wales doesn't, one shouldn't assume anyone knows dick about Wales, and it's "media empire". This wouldn't be like "I'm from Australia." "Oh, that's just outside Texarcana, isn't it? Yeehaw!"
Now, I'm Canadian, and I knew England, Scotland, and Ireland are separate countries, in name if not practice, but even I never heard of Wales being separate, just harder to understand. So to be fair, someone with a bit more on their plate than idle anglophilia could be excused for a simple mistaken assumption.


Welsh accent doesn't sound American or even close. Pretty sure any British accent does not sound American or come close. Australian and English, perhaps, although i can't hear it, I accept a lot of people get that mixed up. Never ever heard of anyone mistaking any British accent for an American one, regardless of your immigration point.

"Even you" hehe

>> ^csnel3:

>> ^quantumushroom:
Oh, where to begin?
There are probably dozens of these moments on the scorecard of every celebrity, great and small. I'll even give Obama a free pass for calling Hawaii "ASIA" during one of his many campaign stops taxpayer-funded vacations important meetings. Props to the libmedia who downplay His Earness's gaffes. His larger gaffes, like the economy, price of gasoline, failures as Commander-In-Chief, we'll leave to the few history books not written by leftards.
Referring to this BBC show: no one across the pond should be calling anyone here dumb. USA may be almost a police state, but Britain's been disarmed and defeated by socialism for decades. Bankrupt Eurounion. Smile for the 10,000,000 cameras, serfs.
Wales? Not enough to even register one who-gives-a-shit. Last time I heard of anything Welsh was a maintenance man killed by a werewolf in Stephen King's Silver Bullet.
Bush flew jets. You're a spoiled singer. Deal.
You're wearing me down QM. I actually agree with almost everything you just said. Will this cost me some power points or something?
Really though I dont respond well to criticisms from across the pond right now, I dont think they have our back, I'm not sure they have their own back.


Since when has criticism of your most retarded president been aimed at you or Americans? She certainly wasn't labelling you all, was she.

>> ^csnel3:

>> ^quantumushroom:
Oh, where to begin?
There are probably dozens of these moments on the scorecard of every celebrity, great and small. I'll even give Obama a free pass for calling Hawaii "ASIA" during one of his many campaign stops taxpayer-funded vacations important meetings. Props to the libmedia who downplay His Earness's gaffes. His larger gaffes, like the economy, price of gasoline, failures as Commander-In-Chief, we'll leave to the few history books not written by leftards.
Referring to this BBC show: no one across the pond should be calling anyone here dumb. USA may be almost a police state, but Britain's been disarmed and defeated by socialism for decades. Bankrupt Eurounion. Smile for the 10,000,000 cameras, serfs.
Wales? Not enough to even register one who-gives-a-shit. Last time I heard of anything Welsh was a maintenance man killed by a werewolf in Stephen King's Silver Bullet.
Bush flew jets. You're a spoiled singer. Deal.
You're wearing me down QM. I actually agree with almost everything you just said. Will this cost me some power points or something?
Really though I dont respond well to criticisms from across the pond right now, I dont think they have our back, I'm not sure they have their own back.


Heh. I guess i better say something like "Welcome to the UK, bitch!" Nice insult. But don't get too in-depth with QM, i suspect he's actually just a cleverly programmed bot that repeats political catchphrases and buzzwords from fox news.

For example - margaret thatcher was in power up until 1990 and elected 11 years before that. So i think it's fairly safe to say that she was in charge of "Britain" 20 years ago. Margaret thatcher was not a socialist - she was incredibly critical of it, and her policies reflected that.

Many of Britain's big state owned companies/whatever were privatised, john major followed and was himself a thatcherite, followed by labour around the millennium who were more willing to adopt in-place conservative economic policies.

So it's relatively safe to say that britain has become significantly less socialist since 30 years ago and was well into that stride 20 years ago.

But of course, he's just a political catchphrase bot, that's why he said "Britain's been defeated by socialism since...", there's no meaning behind it.

I'm no expert on politics (which makes me immediately more qualified than QM), but i think one word you couldn't apply to margaret thatcher's britain is socialist.

We're IN a shit state because of thatcher. The Britain we all remember fondly? Amazing NHS, schools, industry, army, politeness, fairness? That's pre-80s britain, dude.

I was referring to your ignorance of the Welsh. As for 'campaign stops/taxpayer funded vacations', do you mean like this: http://videosift.com/video/White-House-Caught-Doctoring-Mission-Accomplished-Video>> ^quantumushroom:

Ignorance doesn't frighten me. Ignorance means "lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact." If I want to learn about something, I learn it.
Deliberate intellectual dishonesty, the coin of the realm for leftists, is another matter.
After you, kym!
>> ^kymbos:
Stop Press: Ignorant American Doesn't Know About Non-American Things!
Continue, QM.

>> ^quantumushroom:
Oh, where to begin?
There are probably dozens of these moments on the scorecard of every celebrity, great and small. I'll even give Obama a free pass for calling Hawaii "ASIA" during one of his many campaign stops taxpayer-funded vacations important meetings. Props to the libmedia who downplay His Earness's gaffes. His larger gaffes, like the economy, price of gasoline, failures as Commander-In-Chief, we'll leave to the few history books not written by leftards.
Referring to this BBC show: no one across the pond should be calling anyone here dumb. USA may be almost a police state, but Britain's been disarmed and defeated by socialism for decades. Bankrupt Eurounion. Smile for the 10,000,000 cameras, serfs.
Wales? Not enough to even register one who-gives-a-shit. Last time I heard of anything Welsh was a maintenance man killed by a werewolf in Stephen King's Silver Bullet.
Bush flew jets. You're a spoiled singer. Deal.
You're wearing me down QM. I actually agree with almost everything you just said. Will this cost me some power points or something?
Really though I dont respond well to criticisms from across the pond right now, I dont think they have our back, I'm not sure they have their own back.

Oh, where to begin?

There are probably dozens of these moments on the scorecard of every celebrity, great and small. I'll even give Obama a free pass for calling Hawaii "ASIA" during one of his many campaign stops taxpayer-funded vacations important meetings. Props to the libmedia who downplay His Earness's gaffes. His larger gaffes, like the economy, price of gasoline, failures as Commander-In-Chief, we'll leave to the few history books not written by leftards.


Referring to this BBC show: no one across the pond should be calling anyone here dumb. USA may be almost a police state, but Britain's been disarmed and defeated by socialism for decades. Bankrupt Eurounion. Smile for the 10,000,000 cameras, serfs.

Wales? Not enough to even register one who-gives-a-shit. Last time I heard of anything Welsh was a maintenance man killed by a werewolf in Stephen King's Silver Bullet.

Bush flew jets. You're a spoiled singer. Deal.

Yup. I have no excuse for that one.

>> ^alien_concept:

>> ^Confucius:
Um...she said this happened at his inauguration in the US.
>> ^alien_concept:
>> ^Confucius:
Wales, UT USA. Just sayin......

Fair point. Wouldn't really explain why he didn't grasp she wasn't American though, especially seeing it was on a visit to the UK. Maybe he thinks Britain is made up of states. Also retarded. Every possibility as to what he was asking is fucking dumb!


Touche! I guess he couldn't hear her very well, Welsh sound like no other accent on earth, haha

>> ^Confucius:

Um...she said this happened at his inauguration in the US.
>> ^alien_concept:
>> ^Confucius:
Wales, UT USA. Just sayin......

Fair point. Wouldn't really explain why he didn't grasp she wasn't American though, especially seeing it was on a visit to the UK. Maybe he thinks Britain is made up of states. Also retarded. Every possibility as to what he was asking is fucking dumb!



Touche! I guess he couldn't hear her very well, Welsh sound like no other accent on earth, haha

My roommate many many years ago had a Welsh Corgi that simply rolled down sideways, one painstaking step at a time.

I heard that they may be "edging closer" to making Porno into a film with the Trainspotting cast.

>> ^L0cky:

I think it's a really strange choice for a film adaptation to be honest. Ecstasy is one of Irvine Welsh's weaker novels; I think Filth or Crime would translate better; or even Glue.
The best of course would be Porno, but that would require the cast from Trainspotting to sign up. Which they should considering what that movie did for their careers.

I think it's a really strange choice for a film adaptation to be honest. Ecstasy is one of Irvine Welsh's weaker novels; I think Filth or Crime would translate better; or even Glue.

The best of course would be Porno, but that would require the cast from Trainspotting to sign up. Which they should considering what that movie did for their careers.

Award-winning director, Rob Heydon’s film version of Irvine Welsh’s Ecstasy opens this fall.

Starring Adam Sinclair, Kristin Kreuk, Billy Boyd and Carlo Rota, it’s based on Welsh’s novella, “The Undefeated”, taken from his book Ecstasy - Three Tales of Chemical Romance.

It’s 15 years since the film version of Trainspotting kicked in the doors and launched the careers of a young and new generation of talent, and while negotiations continue for its follow-up Porno, it’s hoped Ecstasy will be as good, if not better. Here’s hoping.

Here’s the most recent teaser for the Ecstasy, plus 2 others. For more information check here.