>> ^Deano:

>> ^kymbos:
Am I the only person who does not give a shit?

It's a human being doing something incredible and breaking boundaries. Isn't that worth something?
What if this had happened before the Columbia disaster and the data about how you can bail out in the upper atmosphere had been used to save those lives (i.e they bailed out just before the ship tore apart)?
I think it's a wonderful and worthy stunt and funded out of all those Red Bull drinks


No, it's a stupid advertising gimmick. It isn't science or new or even interesting. It's been done and proven. USAF did exactly this in 1960. This just added a few hundred feet to their altitude. Russian probably did it sooner.

So no it's not a human breaking any boundaries or any thing novel. It is just advertising paid for by product sales. No different from a TV commercial expect it tricked you into talking about their product.

>> ^lantern53:

I don't believe the USAF can teach a 'retarded' person to fly an F-102.
However, Jeremiah Wright, Frank Marshall Davis, Barack Obama Sr. and Bill Ayres can apparently teach a person to despise the United States of America.


Don't want to say what your parents taught you...

I don't believe the USAF can teach a 'retarded' person to fly an F-102.

However, Jeremiah Wright, Frank Marshall Davis, Barack Obama Sr. and Bill Ayres can apparently teach a person to despise the United States of America.

currently in Rochester, New York
born here. at 15, moved to Coral Springs, Florida
then Point Pleasant, New Jersey
usaf basic training at Lackland AFB, San Antonio, Texas
programmer training at Keesler AFB, Biloxi, Mississippi
stationed at Hickam AFB, Honolulu, Hawaii
then back to Rochester
as a kid, i had a summer vacation in Los Angeles, then London a few years later
been to NYC a bunch of times

You have been awarded 1 Power Point for fixing the embed code for Dead Pool video This is your cat on drugs. (1957 USAF experiment with LSD). Thank you for helping maintain VideoSift's reliability.

>> ^MaxWilder:

>> ^ant:
>> ^MaxWilder:
>> ^ant:
L.A. Angels???

Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, to be precise.
I am so proud of my city for that one.

[sighs] Anaheim is in Orange County (OC).

Yeah, it sounded pretty dumb when they made the name change. But the Angels were Los Angeles' first sports team from back in 1892. And honestly, Anaheim is a part of the LA sprawl, even if it is technically a different county, so it's not quite as bad as if they called the Lakers "The Minneapolis Lakers of Los Angeles".


1892? Wowser.

>> ^ant:

>> ^MaxWilder:
>> ^ant:
L.A. Angels???

Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, to be precise.
I am so proud of my city for that one.

[sighs] Anaheim is in Orange County (OC).


Yeah, it sounded pretty dumb when they made the name change. But the Angels were Los Angeles' first sports team from back in 1892. And honestly, Anaheim is a part of the LA sprawl, even if it is technically a different county, so it's not quite as bad as if they called the Lakers "The Minneapolis Lakers of Los Angeles".

>> ^MaxWilder:

>> ^ant:
L.A. Angels???

Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, to be precise.
I am so proud of my city for that one.


[sighs] Anaheim is in Orange County (OC).

>> ^ant:

L.A. Angels???


Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, to be precise.

I am so proud of my city for that one.

>> ^Djevel:

When entering into the USAF back in the mid-90's, I was advised not to put down my denomination as Atheist. The SSgt wouldn't go into details as to why, other than if I happened to be in a life threatening situation with others, it may be impressed upon those of religious persuasion to save their brethren before making the attempt for me. It would be easier for "everyone" if I just put "non-denominational" instead. Throughout basic training and tech school, I also had the luxury of additional detail (labor) because I wasn't comfortable attending church services. Later, as I gained rank, it was also impressed upon me that to further my career, organizations, such as Toastmasters, would be enthusiastically encouraged from my leadership chain.
If things have changed since then, fantastic, but I was never given the impression that the armed forces were the enlightenment of civilization in regards to secularism, "all walks of life" withstanding.


And for @Gamble... I know your movies like "Full Metal Jacket" does exactly what's being described, but have you guys (or anyone in the armed services) ever seen/had/heard a Atheist Sergeant ? It seems to me that besides on the death bed and when you are in a "peaceful" defensive setup that only then would religion (and only then) be allowed to function full strength.

It seems incredibly counter-intuitive to have instilled or given religious Christians (the ability to countermand--without a court-marshal & on-site kick to the groin and punch in the face--[ I know they don't have the ability--they just have people that are willing to be unscrupulous for them to cover anything up--how very Christian of... yadda, yadda, yadda...]), to ever (I know the point was that he was a crappy Sergeant, but they're are many like him ; but this one example is mine ) have a Sergeant teach at basic and later on for specialists (marines/rangers/etc...) that creates a not only a physical division within the ranks, but a mental one.

If actually acted upon or even used in the normal functions of combat you put: the mission, the soldiers, civilians, allies, and more like completely missing/noticing any opportunities to get the enemy. Tactics and doing your job should always be priority number one. If religion is in any of these top priorities, except for morality (as it is altruistically linked to religion and life, even Atheists; morality is being linked more and more as a intrinsic property of our evolution and all mammals in general; even bee colonies work together "through Christ" though?...), but morality is a near fully physical psychological manifestation due to instincts and evolution (and religion; especially when you fear dying and going to a lake of fire; this could be considered a "psychotic" attribute, especially when it concerns *this, present, reality*).

As state and religion are compelled to stay apart due to the constitution and how it relates the two and law in the First Amendment; so should religion and military as they have the same correlated negative qualities as what comes from not following the First Amendment. (Yes I know it never says it, but: Thomas Jefferson did, the Supreme Court has used it many time (making it essentially a law, regardless), and the First Amendment if understood correctly (look at the Supreme Court cases involved and how they interpreted it) creates a literal gap between the State (the State can't make a law concerning Religion, whatsoever) and Religion ( Religion like the State must never become entwined in any fashion with the State; if it does it isn't considered a Religion by the State and loses all it's protections, like the notion of organization tax exemption, which unlike a typical organization can make money [this is why so many people hate Scientology as it's literally at the line that shouldn't be crossed and is considered a tax haven by many]).

Only more lives will be at risk. Giving yourself a moral boost using religion can be done silently; I know I used to be heavily religious.
_{Keep your mind at task; this is life and death. It's also not just your life on the line.}
/sorry ran a bit longer than intended

When entering into the USAF back in the mid-90's, I was advised not to put down my denomination as Atheist. The SSgt wouldn't go into details as to why, other than if I happened to be in a life threatening situation with others, it may be impressed upon those of religious persuasion to save their brethren before making the attempt for me. It would be easier for "everyone" if I just put "non-denominational" instead. Throughout basic training and tech school, I also had the luxury of additional detail (labor) because I wasn't comfortable attending church services. Later, as I gained rank, it was also impressed upon me that to further my career, organizations, such as Toastmasters, would be enthusiastically encouraged from my leadership chain.

If things have changed since then, fantastic, but I was never given the impression that the armed forces were the enlightenment of civilization in regards to secularism, "all walks of life" withstanding.

These guys are from the USAF Academy and have as much to do with the real USAF as Super Mario does with being a plumber. A better title would be: USAF Officer Larvae do Tik Tok

Why isn't possible this is cloud formation from a low pressure region along the wings as they pass through different temp/moisture/pressure layers?

I couldn't find any exactly matching photos, but let's assume this is a KC-10.
http://clemsonpilot.com/pacaf/KC10.jpg
http://www.wagnersonline.com/photogallery/airforce/KC-10a.jpg
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/aircraft/transport-m/kc10/kc10_07.jpg


Those are not nozzles. Those are control surfaces and part of the flaps. Is it possible they are dumping fuel? I think the more obvious explanation is to think pressure changes. But I do wonder why there are not normal contrails as seen in this picture (but the plane might have been descending):
http://chamorrobible.org/images/photos/gpw-200702-71-UnitedStates-DefenseVisualCenter-DFST9904792-Antarctic-sun-USAF-KC-10-Extender-refueling-aircraft
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(http://www.warplane.co.uk/Wales.htm):
Machynlleth Loop

The most appropriate place to start with is the Machynlleth Loop which is usually referred to by aircrews as ‘The Loop’ although the USAF crews refer to it as ‘The Roundabout’. It is literally a roundabout of flowed valleys running counter-clockwise following the A470 north eastwards from Machynlleth in the south to Dinas Mawddwy then heading north west to join the A487 at the Cross Foxes Inn. From here it follows the A487 southwards through Corris to end back at Machynlleth. Ordnance Survey Explorer Map OL23 is recommended for anyone planning a visit.

It is arguably the busiest part of the UK low fly system and although the cold war days of up to 80 plus movements in a day are long gone it is still sometimes possible to see 30 plus aircraft in one day. The usual daily total is usually between 10 and 20 aircraft mainly made up of Hawks with the odd Tornado, Harrier or Hercules thrown in. It is certainly the place to go to practice your panning technique.

It takes about 3 minutes for a jet aircraft to do a circuit of the Loop and multiple passes by aircraft is not an uncommon sight, especially by Hawks. So whenever you see an aircraft it is worth checking to see if it looks like doing a circuit as you may be lucky enough to see it again in 3 minutes.

Well the theory behind it is sound. A modern jet fighter has what? 4-10 weapon mounts and not all of those will be AA missiles (sidewinders and the like)? and ~1-3000 rounds for the machinegun/autocannon. So 150 000 planes versus for instance US ~5600 planes total. "As of 2009 the USAF operates 5,573 manned aircraft in service (3,990 USAF; 1,213 Air National Guard; and 370 Air Force Reserve)" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Air_Force or Russia with its ~2800 planes "With 2,749 aircraft, it is the third largest Air Force in the world" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Air_Force

Even with 10 AA missiles each that is still more than enough planes left to kill almost any invading army in the world. 90 000 planes with the enemy at 0 planes or planes but no more weapons means some serious air superiority. This is with a 1:1 shot to kill ratio with missiles. Also heavy armour means autocannons and the like are less effective imo.

Sort of like a real life zerg rush... but with flying zerglings.