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Uber in the Eighties: Why there was no Uber in the Eighties.

Uber in the Eighties: Why there was no Uber in the Eighties.

Easy Way to Get Over the American-Mexican Border

shagen454 says...

I tested out crossing the border a couple of months ago into Nogales Sonora Mexico. It was as simple as walking through an outdoor hallway through a turnstile. No security, the only thing you see are taxi drivers calling to you and people trying to take you to the legit pharmacies where you can get all of the shitty prescription pharmaceuticals you have to pay an arm and a leg for in the US for next to nothing. Getting back in, you could give them an EXPIRED PASSPORT and nothing else if you wanted.

Also, went back to go to a dentist that cleaned my toofs better than any dentist in the US has at a fraction of the cost.

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Ghost In The Shell - Trailer #2

RedSky says...

I'm more relating it to the Stand Alone Complex series, particularly the second season which is what the adaptation seems to be based on from the trailers.

It is clearly impossible for them to cram the content of that 26 episode series into a movie and I'm frankly not sure why they decided to adapt it rather than the original movie.

That had plenty of discussion about simulations, emergent phenomena and group think. Definitely bordered on pretentiousness (there was an episode which adapted Taxi Driver) but still very enjoyable.

entr0py said:

My memory of the original movie is that it was that there was about 5 minutes of the characters philosophizing on the difficulty of self-identity in a cyber world amid an hour and a half of sexy sci-fi robot murder sprees. I think they can match that.

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5 Weird Ways Germany Has Censored Video Games

MilkmanDan says...

Very interesting, but I have some questions about the efficacy of those rules/laws with regards to actually keeping the uncensored versions out of German hands.

Here in Thailand, since 2008 all GTA games are specifically banned (after a nutter who killed a taxi driver said he was influenced by GTA), along with any games with "excessive violence" or sexual content. In spite of that, the majority of male students in the High School where I teach have played GTA5 or other GTA games. There are no legit physical copies for sale in stores (I assume they are also removed from Steam for Thai users but I dunno), but like with all media here piracy is rampant and kids either torrent/download pirated copies of the games for themselves or buy a pirated copy of the game on DVD from vendors that can be found in markets in every city or village.

The rampant piracy also circumvents Thai censorship laws that require movies to blur out people smoking, drinking alcohol, or nudity / sexual content. Legit copies (which are rare) adhere to the rules, but most people end up with pirated copies that are more often than not sourced from uncensored versions and therefore don't follow the local rules.

Pretty weird situation. Makes me wonder if now in the internet age many German consumers might have no moral qualms with buying legit German-censored versions of things and then downloading pirated / cracked versions from the internet that circumvent the censorship.

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Woman Refuses to Leave Uber Car

ChaosEngine says...

That's exactly what I'm claiming.

Ride-sharing is when I'm going somewhere and I offer to take people with me. They then pay me, so I recoup some of the money.

If I'm driving around waiting for people to tell me where to go, that is a taxi.

Uber can call it whatever they want, but it's still a taxi.

Payback said:

...or are you claiming Uber is lying about its services?

Woman Refuses to Leave Uber Car

ChaosEngine says...

I meant you can't book an Uber in advance.

That's how I normally use taxis too.

newtboy said:

Yes, except for the book in advance part. I've never had a problem with that...in fact, with one exception, it's the only way I've ever used taxis.

Woman Refuses to Leave Uber Car

newtboy says...

Yes, except for the book in advance part. I've never had a problem with that...in fact, with one exception, it's the only way I've ever used taxis.

ChaosEngine said:

Sure, the car might not be flash and maybe you have to wait longer to get a ride and you can't book one in advance (at least, not in my experience), but at the very least you can expect to get to where you paid to be taken to.

They're still operating as a taxi and should be subject to the same regulations. McDonalds might not be fine dining, but I still expect the food to be edible and not poison me.

I think we agree on most of this, tbh

Woman Refuses to Leave Uber Car

ChaosEngine says...

Uber drivers ARE taxi drivers. By any reasonable definition of the term, there's simply no question of that. They just work for a particularly shit taxi service. There's also a question of whether they are Uber employees, but that's probably another discussion.

How many times do I have to acknowledge that wasn't the case here?

I was responding to the general point that @newtboy made about leaving someone's property if they ask you. It's not that black and white when you're paying for a service. Would you be ok with a hotel knocking on your door at 2am and telling you to get out on the street? Or a movie theatre or a restaurant kicking you out before you finished the movie/meal? They would need a legitimate reason to do so.

Again, I know that is not the case here.

Babymech said:

I think you missed Drachen Jaeger's point - Uber drivers shouldn't be treated as taxi drivers; Uber should be legislated as though they were providing a taxi service. Until that's the case, you can either lower your expectations, or refuse on principle to use Uber.

As for your other rebuttal, Newt already covered it. You don't get to mix up "staying in the car as protest" with "staying in the car because you don't know where you are". The first scenario is unacceptable and shitty; the second could be excused except in this case it obviously isn't. She's at the right hospital, and the Emergency Admission is just a walk away from the car - and she's clearly not in a hurry. She's not in an 'unfamiliar place' and you know it - the driver references the hospital sign, and she readily accepts the hospital personnel saying that it's just a short walk away. That's the specific case we're dealing with - I wouldn't judge her half as harshly if she really was in an unfamiliar place... but why are you bringing it up, when it's not the case here?

She didn't stay in his car because she was legitimately confused about where she was, she stayed in his car to hold him hostage while she lodged her complaint about the service she received. That's not ok, regardless of whether it's Uber, McDonald's, or some super-friendly mom and pop store. You disengage (which he didn't have the luxury of doing) and you figure out how to get justice later.

Woman Refuses to Leave Uber Car

ChaosEngine says...

Sure, the car might not be flash and maybe you have to wait longer to get a ride and you can't book one in advance (at least, not in my experience), but at the very least you can expect to get to where you paid to be taken to.

They're still operating as a taxi and should be subject to the same regulations. McDonalds might not be fine dining, but I still expect the food to be edible and not poison me.

I think we agree on most of this, tbh

newtboy said:

1)Yes, but it's the recourse when your expectations aren't met that I'm discussing. Also, the base level of service is lower for Uber than a licensed taxi, no?

2)Yes, that's exactly what I mean...they aren't regulated taxis, they are basically operating illegally everywhere, but abused loopholes and used misrepresentation to gain a foothold, then grew too fast to control...or just were ignored until they took enough work from licensed taxi drivers, and now they're being considered 'too big to fail' and still allowed to operate in most places (not all). I would never use them for exactly that reason...as essentially black market taxis, I would expect little insurance against improper service or damage. It's not JUST the drivers, they also treat the rule of law with contempt. Why would one not expect them to treat customers with the same distain and carelessness?

Woman Refuses to Leave Uber Car

Babymech says...

I think you missed Drachen Jaeger's point - Uber drivers shouldn't be treated as taxi drivers; Uber should be legislated as though they were providing a taxi service. Until that's the case, you can either lower your expectations, or refuse on principle to use Uber.

As for your other rebuttal, Newt already covered it. You don't get to mix up "staying in the car as protest" with "staying in the car because you don't know where you are". The first scenario is unacceptable and shitty; the second could be excused except in this case it obviously isn't. She's at the right hospital, and the Emergency Admission is just a walk away from the car - and she's clearly not in a hurry. She's not in an 'unfamiliar place' and you know it - the driver references the hospital sign, and she readily accepts the hospital personnel saying that it's just a short walk away. That's the specific case we're dealing with - I wouldn't judge her half as harshly if she really was in an unfamiliar place... but why are you bringing it up, when it's not the case here?

She didn't stay in his car because she was legitimately confused about where she was, she stayed in his car to hold him hostage while she lodged her complaint about the service she received. That's not ok, regardless of whether it's Uber, McDonald's, or some super-friendly mom and pop store. You disengage (which he didn't have the luxury of doing) and you figure out how to get justice later.

ChaosEngine said:

He's a taxi driver (Uber = taxi and @Drachen_Jager is right, they should be held to the same standards).

...
This is probably worthy of a separate discussion, but since we're here...

I 100% disagree with this. Uber is a taxi service, just a really poorly run one.



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