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Comments as Toxic Waste (Internet Talk Post)

dag says...

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

I'm not against having outlets for pure unfettered self-expression, but much like a primal scream therapy session, it doesn't lend itself to real communication very well.>> ^gorillaman:

>> ^dag:
Is there a movement to accountabilise the web? I sure haven't seen much evidence of it. Most places I visit - it's pretty much anything goes.
I don't think it's just honesty and dumbfuckery. It's more about what the article describes, the feeling that "it's just a game" and a fantasy outlet for expressing sublimated rage, sadness etc in a "safe" way (without a chance of retribution).
I agree with @ReverendTed that scaling moderation by members is the way to handle lots and lots of comments.

Why do you think so many need an anonymous outlet for expression? Our culture is so repressive, on an individual scale, and that fear of retribution is real. I think the instinct that the internet is another world where we can reinvent ourselves is something to be encouraged rather than dismissed as a game or a fantasy. We're able to communicate now unburdened by circumstances or the disapproval of our peers. I'd say the less this reality interpenetrates with the lower world the better.
Personally there's almost no difference between my online and offline behaviour, except when I talk to my boss, but most people are more social than I am; they have more people pushing down on them and more to lose if they push back. So let them have their freedom, some might even have something worthwhile to say.

Comments as Toxic Waste (Internet Talk Post)

gorillaman says...

>> ^dag:

Is there a movement to accountabilise the web? I sure haven't seen much evidence of it. Most places I visit - it's pretty much anything goes.
I don't think it's just honesty and dumbfuckery. It's more about what the article describes, the feeling that "it's just a game" and a fantasy outlet for expressing sublimated rage, sadness etc in a "safe" way (without a chance of retribution).
I agree with @ReverendTed that scaling moderation by members is the way to handle lots and lots of comments.


Why do you think so many need an anonymous outlet for expression? Our culture is so repressive, on an individual scale, and that fear of retribution is real. I think the instinct that the internet is another world where we can reinvent ourselves is something to be encouraged rather than dismissed as a game or a fantasy. We're able to communicate now unburdened by circumstances or the disapproval of our peers. I'd say the less this reality interpenetrates with the lower world the better.

Personally there's almost no difference between my online and offline behaviour, except when I talk to my boss, but most people are more social than I am; they have more people pushing down on them and more to lose if they push back. So let them have their freedom, some might even have something worthwhile to say.

Comments as Toxic Waste (Internet Talk Post)

dag says...

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

Is there a movement to accountabilise the web? I sure haven't seen much evidence of it. Most places I visit - it's pretty much anything goes.

I don't think it's just honesty and dumbfuckery. It's more about what the article describes, the feeling that "it's just a game" and a fantasy outlet for expressing sublimated rage, sadness etc in a "safe" way (without a chance of retribution).

I agree with @ReverendTed that scaling moderation by members is the way to handle lots and lots of comments.
>> ^gorillaman:

There wouldn't be any reason to visit videosift without the comments.
The reason you see so much dumbfuckery online is people are able to be more open about who they are, and most people, at their core, are dumb fucks. So deal with it; it's better than living your life in a straightjacket of manners and convention.
I despise this movement to 'accountabilitise' the web. It comes from those who enjoy their social power too much and want to tighten their grip over the few remaining sanctuaries of free expression. I'm not talking about big evil governments; I'm talking about the control of people who are able to punish your dissent in ways like not inviting you to a wedding or blocking a promotion. If we're able to have open, honest interactions without fear then their power dissipates.
RL conversations should be more like web conversations; honesty is valuable and bullshit taboos and rituals are not.
If this puts me in the vocal minority, then I am glad.

Dog Has an Itchy Butt

Only Fools and Horses-> "Del's Poker Face"

robbersdog49 says...

I'm sure you must be able to et it, buy the DVD on amazon or something. The writing is as good as it gets and the acting is sublime. It's normally pretty light hearted stuff, but every now and then they touch on some really tough subjects and those episodes are the real demonstration of how strong the team is.

Dry Ice ERUPTIONS! How to Create Experimental Explosions!

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Tags for this video have been changed from 'dry ice, joe genius, experiment, sublimate' to 'dry ice, joe genius, experiment, sublimate, non newtonian fluid' - edited by BoneRemake

How I Play Skyrim

Very Impressive Morgan Freeman Impression

taranimator (Member Profile)

oritteropo says...

Got to it, and thank you, I enjoyed it quite a lot. If nobody beats me to it, I'll promote it in 1 day 22 mins once my pp's recharge

Did you see this one? http://videosift.com/video/never-a-dull-moment-on-the-nyc-subway
In reply to this comment by taranimator:
Hello! I haven't said hi in way too long!

I just found a very nice channel on youtube full of amazing buskers. It made me think of you!
It's been nice to watch and listen while I'm marking up a storm at home..

I think you would like this:
http://videosift.com/video/Blakeabyss-and-Amy-Alveys-sublime-spon
taneous-duet

oritteropo (Member Profile)

Man invents 27 string guitar, plays it

Racist Ron Paul (Politics Talk Post)

Screaming Dry Ice

nomino says...

"The surface you touch is considerably warmer than the dry ice and causes the dry ice to sublimate rapidly to CO2 gas. Since you're pressing the ice against the metal, there will be places where gas is momentarily trapped between the two surfaces, and when released through a small opening tends to whistle."

Best description I could find.

The Great Pumpkin Carving Contest of 2011 (Sift Talk Post)

The Great Pumpkin Carving Contest of 2011 (Sift Talk Post)



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