>> ^Stormsinger:

I'm a bit curious how she manages to afford that nice apartment, without participating in our "wage slave" economy.
Personally, I find it hard to believe that I could have as much freedom and leisure as I currently have, if I was spending the time necessary to avoid participation. Specialization has distinct benefits, and I doubt that my specialty is much in demand among these folks, so barter isn't going to be an efficient option for me.


Freedom and leisure is a good benefit to keeping passive. Wage Slavery was considered a horrible thing back int he day...so horrible that Actual Slave owners were making the argument that it was worse than being actual slaves.

The idea is to keep everyone wanting bullshit, striving to gain wealth forgetting everything but yourself. It's hard to convince people to forget that they're all in this together, it's a lot of work but it is working to some extent at least. We should work to fight it, there's no reason why some Multinational Corporation needs to own your towns factory just so they could decide it's not making enough and close it. The people who work there, who have a stake in the place should own it.

Here's a good clip from "The Corporation" with Chomsky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJrEQtQDmXQ

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

Funny you should post this, I just learned that bronyism is not an ironic 4-chan meme in this SomethingAwful article yesterday. It is completely sincere. The horror.... the horror...


Yes. Not only that but there is a large portion of the furry community that has extreme dislike for the bronies. To think, the lowest level of internet subcultures is looking DOWN on bronies makes it all the more sad.

The song was popularized by Old Crow Medicine Show who has long been affiliated with Alt Country/hippy jam fests. To be fair to OP though, there has been a bit of a fusion of the "scenes." Live electronic bands like the Disco Biscuits, Sound Tribe Sector 9, and the New Deal spawned this sort of new breed of "hippy-raver hybrids." As @visionep pointed out, there is somewhat of a natural symbiosis there. Anyway, this unholy alliance has come so far along as to push classic hippy bands like String Cheese Incident, Galactic, and Medeski Martin and Wood towards more electronic influenced sounds. These days you see kids on phish tour rockin' skrillex tattoos (oh the humanity). Whatever. I for one welcome our next generation of inebriated overlords. We all like to get down. Let's get down together.

>> ^Lann:

@visionep I known a lot of [insert creative subculture] that love bluegrass/Americana/old timey/folk music. So this isn't really all that strange to see. Also, this isn't exactly your normal country music you hear at some truck stop in Kansas.
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@visionep I known a lot of [insert creative subculture] that love bluegrass/Americana/old timey/folk music. So this isn't really all that strange to see. Also, this isn't exactly your normal country music you hear at some truck stop in Kansas.

Oh don't hate them for their race.Hate them for their Player Class--Gangsta,where anyone who figures out how to string a dozen words together in front of a microphone feels entitled to Phat Lootz,or they blame "the Man" for their failures and consider random acts of violence and theft their Just Retribution we somehow owe them. I can appreciate Good Music of any sort,and acknowledge the Art and Craft of its creating auible sculpture with sound and voice. However,I will say I can do so without buying into a whole subculture that thinks wearing your pants half off is a fashion statement. I don't see the Enya Posse in Blue Wold on their faces and sporting designer kilts running around(although we should!). To quote a line from Animal House "Stoned Drunk and Stupid is no way to go through life,son.",and that's what the subtext of the subculture amounts to. Flashy glamour is nice,but none of it matters in the face of Real Work and the instinctual Need to get it done. This seperates the Artist from the Mob,wanting to devote time away from a constant party and to physical and emotional labour to conjure something meaningful magical and new. Stepping back to admire the fruits of your handywork is a high no mass of shiney strangers can ever hope to beat. Someone in that Flashmob has orginizational skills...300 people is quite a turn out. Wouldn't it be Nice if they had much enthusiasm for something Positive,like a neighborhood watch? twittering about crimes happening to the police can help keep their neighborhoods safe,which are crawling with drugs and shoot outs."Yo Dawg! The Bruthah from that Bodega Shooting is here on Main Street!" Maybe if the "Hood wasn't such a Scarey Place,businesses would come in. And if they didn't feel it was their right to steal,they might find good jobs from the new businesses and earn a living instead of demanding one.

But one has to have Morals for that. I see none in that video. People who don't mind rampaging in front of a sea of security cameras.Can you convince such people to Play Nice at all,or past the point when doing the right thing inconveniences you?Do people sometimes need the threat of Guns even to keep civil? Suddenly snide remarks about Evolution suddenly make SENSE. But its SOcial Evolution at play here,and at fault. WE are Rome trying to convince a native of the Province they conquered to kindly not shit in the street. Sometimes you need clubs for that. But something tells me these people need their lives managed for them. Maybe wall up a ten block radius of a poor neighborhood,move all the families out nd let them play hip Hop as a live action video game where the bullets are real and cameras everywhere record the drama Live! The ultimate Reality TV Urban Experience fully packaged and ready for heavy merchendising! They can compete for resources and earn fabulous prizes,and hopefully only shoot themslves instead of the rest of us just trying to get on with life.


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It'll happen. You'll see. It's very Roman.

what you said at the end, that i think is the real issue. youve got a documentary crew filming bullying on a bus and yet the officials (whoever that lady was, principal i presume) are in complete denial instead of looking into it further and taking appropriate disciplinary action.



by and large children are products of whoever raises em, whoever their adult influence is. you could take virtually any "bully" look at his parents and find the root cause (most of the time anyway). i know a lot of the boys who bullied me in jr high and high school i later came to find out almost all of them had no father figure. do you really think anti bullying rules or something is gonna stop that? the problem is deeper than that, much deeper. do you think bullying stops after high school? do you think it doesnt take place at work, at college, at a park, at the movies, at anywhere?

i think overall the point im getting at is it really doesnt matter what we do or dont do, we cannot prevent bullying. it will happen, it always has and it always will, and thats not a "swept under the rug" answer to the issue, its the reality. so how can we resolve it? by changing not only our mindset as adults, but positively influencing the mindsets of our children as well.

as a side note, as far as the 24-7 thing is concerned, i was bullied at school and at home almost a full decade before the internet and looooong before myspace and facebook. i had an older sister who was such a tomboy growing up she was practically another older brother. but i mainly got picked on by my older brother who was just a year apart from me. i got shit from him and his friends at school, i got it from him and his friends when we'd play in and around our neighborhood and i got it from him at home. in a way, thats infinitely more invasive and inescapable than e-bullying. i lived with him, and for a number of years i had to share a room with him. so ya, to me, it isnt different at all. and while my testimony may be a special case, its far from being unique and youd be naive to think so.

if teen crime rates are declining and bullying is pretty much a constant, that certainly doesnt suggest bullying is becoming worse or even that its a "huge problem". all that suggests is what ive been saying; bullying isnt anything new, and it will always be with us.

maybe im not articulating myself in a compassionate way. im certainly not advocating turning a blind eye to bullies or bullying. i squash it pretty quick when it happens in class, and whenever appropriate i try to talk to the bully one on one in hopes that i may discern what the issue really is. is he picking on that kid cuz he's just a shitty kid? or is he lashing out over emotional/mental issues he's unprepared to cope with? or is he compensating for severe self esteem issues? those are the things we should be addressing to "prevent" bullying, not creating this bizarre subculture war where its us vs them.
>> ^SDGundamX:

>> ^smooman:
>> ^berticus:
what? no comment yet from someone saying how bullying "toughens you up and prepares you for the real world"? COME ON!

ok i'll start. im all for moderate measures to be taken to monitor and disrupt bullying (man, that almost became full alliteration). that being said, the bullying scandal and the myriad documentaries and specials and exposes on the subject are just redundant. as someone who works in the school system bullying really isnt any different than when i was in school, or when my parents went to school, or their parents, etc. bullying isnt anything new. calling it an epidemic is laughable and just plain absurd.
does my heart go out to individuals who have been bullied? absolutely. i myself was constantly bullied growing up (both at school and at home). now berticus, what you said is true even if you were being facetious. being bullied forced me to quickly develop social skills needed to diffuse confrontations among other things. it sharpened my wit, even as an adult. the point isnt that we need bullies to make men out of our children. the point is bullies arent anything new, and they will always be with us. react accordingly

I downvoted your comment and I just wanted to explain why.
First off, while you may technically be correct in that the amount of bullying has not changed over time, technological advances (i.e. the Internet) allow that bullying to continue 24-7 so that there is no refuge from it, even after you get out of school. In other words, while the rate of bullying may not be changing the severity and impact is--it is more invasive, harder to escape, and therefore is NOT the same as when you were a kid.
But even disregarding that, I think the term "epidemic" is appropriate when you look at the fact that over the past 50 years crime among teens has consistently been decreasing in the U.S. (according to FBI statistics a drop of over 44%) and yet the rate of bullying appears to remain the same. To me, that says there is a huge problem that is not being addressed by either our society or our school system. And taking the attitude that "bullies aren't anything new, and they will always be with us" does not seem to me to be the way to go about solving that problem. Rather, it virtually guarantees that in the next 50 years we will see bullying to continue at the same rate as bullies find ways to circumvent the "moderate measures [...] to monitor and disrupt bullying" that you advocate.
Documentaries like this are critically important because they expose just how deep the problems are--you have school officials claiming the bus is perfectly safe while the documentary filmmakers are capturing multiple acts of violence and bullying on the bus. We need more documentaries like this and much more research into how bullying manifests and how to prevent it because we're clearly doing a piss-poor job of it right now.

>> ^rottenseed:

How are you going to yell profanities and use subculture specific colloquialisms to a non-English speaking person in their own country?
Maybe he saw a teaching opportunity.

How are you going to yell profanities and use subculture specific colloquialisms to a non-English speaking person in their own country?

>> ^criticalthud:

great vid! i'm noticing that the mainstream press tends to focus their cameras on protesters who seem to physically resemble more of an extremist image.


Yea that's struck me recently too. There is a lot of 'mention' of various subcultures on the messageboards, but then you actually watch video's like this and it's completely different, just a bunch of quite articulate, well educated people with a similar mission.

Very impressive.

>> ^mizila:

Okay, you asked for it...
1. Lolcats (Title/whole video)
2. Invisible Sandwich (0:27)
3. Facepalm (0:29)
4. Double Rainbow (0:33)
5. Dogfort 1 (0:40-0:45)
6. Dogfort 2 (0:47-0:49)
7. Narwhals 0:57
8. My Little Pony (1:03)
9. Birds with Arms (1:07)
10. Minecraft Creeper (1:07)
11. IMMA FIRIN' MAH LAZER (1:12)
12. Do Not Want (1:14)
13. Weegee (1:17)
14. Courage Wolf (1:17)
15. Thunderbloopers (1:26)
16. Trollface (1:30)
17. Foul Bachelor Frog (1:37)
18. Philosoraptor (1:37)
19. I Can Has Cheezburger (1:41)
20. Longcat and Tacgnol (1:46)
22. Socially Awkward Penguin (1:48)
23. LOL Guy (2:02)
24. X Grab My Y (2:04)
25. Nyan Cat (2:06)
I'm sure I missed a few.

Okay, you asked for it...

1. Lolcats (Title/whole video)
2. Invisible Sandwich (0:27)
3. Facepalm (0:29)
4. Double Rainbow (0:33)
5. Dogfort 1 (0:40-0:45)
6. Dogfort 2 (0:47-0:49)
7. Narwhals 0:57
8. My Little Pony (1:03)
9. Birds with Arms (1:07)
10. Minecraft Creeper (1:07)
11. IMMA FIRIN' MAH LAZER (1:12)
12. Do Not Want (1:14)
13. Weegee (1:17)
14. Courage Wolf (1:17)
15. Thunderbloopers (1:26)
16. Trollface (1:30)
17. Foul Bachelor Frog (1:37)
18. Philosoraptor (1:37)
19. I Can Has Cheezburger (1:41)
20. Longcat and Tacgnol (1:46)
22. Socially Awkward Penguin (1:48)
23. LOL Guy (2:02)
24. X Grab My Y (2:04)
25. Nyan Cat (2:06)

I'm sure I missed a few.

Wow... I'ma keep on "misunderstanding" this subculture, cause I definitely don't wanna learn any more about them.

So the description made me think twice about what I would find in this video. After all, I recently had a change of heart about Burning Man and dispelled some of my preconceptions of what actually went on there because I had met so many douches that were obsessed with it.

At reading that the jugalo "subculture" is "misunderstood" I thought I might be educated in a similar way.

Woman showing her tits for a buck.
Idiot who felt the world was without anything nice until he came to this idiocy and found "titties and weed."
Six-months-pregnant woman smoking and probably drunk/high/everything else...

I disagree with calling jugalos "misunderstood." I think this video pretty much confirmed what most people think when they think jugalo.

To describe this subculture http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Heybq1s79Y

To sum up this subculture: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuFvx7vN_pU Also, faces of meth.