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Wait...so atheism isn't a cranky subculture? I guess I gotta go back to being jewish...

>> ^ForgedReality:

cantunderstandshit! whydoesthishavesomanyvotes? whatthefuckiswithallthecheering?
I haven't heard of any of the names involved with this video.


I find this nerdy subculture a tad annoying.

An interesting article questioning the power of these "superfans"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2010/jul/29/comic-con-geek-culture

And I agree with this comment;
"I'm quite frankly bored of seeing Hollywood roll up to Comic-Con to test fire their weapons on a crowd of geeks who, contrary to popular misconceptions, don't make a tough audience to market to, compared to, say, regular cinema-goers or mainstream critics."

i'm just really glad that trailer trash kids have a unifying subculture.


>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

Juggalos have to be one of the saddest subcultures ever to have existed. I don't get people who feel the need to make these fat, middle aged, unremarkable, white rappers in clown make up part of their personal identity. I'd be less embarrassed joining Scientology or the Westburo Baptist Church.

Juggalos have to be one of the saddest subcultures ever to have existed. I don't get people who feel the need to make these fat, middle aged, unremarkable, white rappers in clown make up part of their personal identity. I'd be less embarrassed joining Scientology or the Westburo Baptist Church.

Or pick up on, basterdizing and exploiting. All good.
>> ^harry:
IMO, things like this show that the US is always that little step ahead when it comes to the 'mainstreaming' of Internet subculture.

IMO, things like this show that the US is always that little step ahead when it comes to the 'mainstreaming' of Internet subculture.

>> ^peggedbea:
alot of very recent mormon cinema is actually really well done.
soooooo much better than the mormon movies my parents bought us in the early 80s.
>> ^MaxWilder:
I don't think there were any non-mormons in that video. Just non-practicing mormons.
I saw Singles Ward without knowing it was about mormons and learned a lot about their bizarre subculture. Much of the movie was pretty funny too. This video made the movie look much worse than it was.



Man, tell me about it. I was raised Mormon, the satire and comedy in that movie isn't too far from the truth, especially on the way Mormons view people who aren't Mormon or who quit their church.

alot of very recent mormon cinema is actually really well done.
soooooo much better than the mormon movies my parents bought us in the early 80s.

>> ^MaxWilder:
I don't think there were any non-mormons in that video. Just non-practicing mormons.
I saw Singles Ward without knowing it was about mormons and learned a lot about their bizarre subculture. Much of the movie was pretty funny too. This video made the movie look much worse than it was.

I don't think there were any non-mormons in that video. Just non-practicing mormons.

I saw Singles Ward without knowing it was about mormons and learned a lot about their bizarre subculture. Much of the movie was pretty funny too. This video made the movie look much worse than it was.

I've always found this facinating - the idea that North America is divided into 9 subcultures already:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_Nations_of_North_America

I think we'd all be much happier if we split along cultural lines... conservatives could try it their way in the south (and I'd move north), liberals could try it their way, and we'd all learn the lessons from each instead of this constant 2 party stalemate.

Makes sense Russia thinks a breakup is imminant because it's pretty much exactly what happened to them in 1990 minus the Glasnost. Failed war in Afganistan, economy crashed then break up... few would've believed it just a few years beforehand.

Note his jibe towards fellow crackpots Jack Van Impe, Hal Lindsey and John Hagee at 3:20. Hal Lindsey is particularly interesting since he is the most important inspiration for Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins, the authors of the atrocious "Left Behind" books. The premillenial dispentionalist subculture of evangelical christianity is rife with such bickering between adherents of different nuances in their so-called "literal" reading of the Bible.

^It's a parody of a genre of pop songs in which young folks complain about their parents. It pokes fun at the collision between two Internet subcultures as the Facebook phenomenon grows.

yes. really.
it was fucking bizarre.
and it preyed on a disenfranchised subculture. really i never go the whole punk rock evangelical christian thing. at all. not that youre not entitled to your own personal belief set and spirituality. its the bizare group think evangelical part that doesn seem to mix well. but whatever. i thought it was funny that the sermon was all about zombies basically.

i dont know, i was raised mormon and never saw anything nearly as bizarre there as i have seen in these hip rock band power point churches. like catholics, mormon services are very reverent and ceremonial and traditional. they also dont have like one guy that talks all the time. the congregation all take turns giving talks and running the service. and theres no paid clergy. say what you want about the mormons, their beliefs are full of shit and the dogma has hurt alot of people close to me. but the services are tasteful and frugal at least. and they dont get into the wierd shit until youre a high preist and going to temple. and until the recent funding of anti gay marriage propaganda i had pretty much no problems with how they spent and dealt with tithing.

i also totally thought going to mass with my catholic stepmom was a hoot.



In reply to this comment by JiggaJonson:
I dont want to sound offensive but...really? I mean, really?

I had a girlfriend who was an evangelical and wanted me to convert, I went to church with her thinking it couldn't be too different from my somewhat traditional catholic upbringing. When services started we watched clips from The Passion of the Christ and then discussed how to get tickets for 5-10 minutes. Then the pastor rode in on a harley and we watched clips from Orange County Choppers. The episode was about the motorcycle guys teaching kids about how to work on motorcycles and the sermon was all about why it is so important to start your kids off learning about jesus early on. Then the full band roared into action (two drum sets, three guitars, several singers and a few horns) followed briefly by collection (I'm assuming to pay for the big screen tvs and projectors in the room, not to mention the band and the Harley) and then a Passion ticket raffle.

We left and my g/f at the time described how great it was that the church could get a message out that people today could relate to. I was going through my head thinking about how much everything must have cost for that one session (poverty, chastity and faith right??) and getting reamed out by her for not waving my arms back and forth in 'praise' when they were singing.

So, not that I dont believe you or anything but, damn, the things some people do.

fyi that whole incident above happened when i was struggling with disbelief I was feeling which only made things weirder.

In reply to this comment by peggedbea:
my exhusband was/is severely mentally ill. when all else failed, one of his doctors recommended going to church. at that point we would have done anything . she recommended a church that catered to punk rockish young adults, which i suppose we were. so..... we went. they were all very nice of course, the church was called "deliverance" and we had to make jokes about how fucking creepy that is. it was in a dead, run down shopping center from the early 80s. it looked like a tattoo studio from the outside, with tattoo'd up skateboarding young punks seemingly loitering outside. at 21 and 29 we were probably the oldest people there.

sooo.... the pastor comes out. the sermon that day is about raising the dead. and how if jesus could do it and he was a man, then we could do it too!!! everyones homework was to heal the sick and raise the dead. FOCUS ALL YOUR ENERGY ON RAISING THE DEAD!!!!!!! then he played a 45 minute long guitar solo which made all the kids raise their arms or rock back and forth on the floor. also everyone HAD to give all their money, if they didnt raise $10,000 that week the church would be shut down, so give all your money then go home and get money from your parents.

soooooo we were of course highly fucking offended by everything that went on there. and besides that, a medical doctor prescribed a church sermon about raising the dead to mental patient with psychotic features. WTF?!?! i wont even get into all the hundreds of ways that could have gone terribly wrong.
luckily my husband hated religion even more than i do and knew damn well that was 100% bullshit and not license to go on a fucking zombie hunt with his machete or something.

something is terribly wrong.

Indeed. He definitely has/had some issues, but it certainly led to a great narrative! And I love how down they get on creepy Jeffery Ross and his subliminal manipulation techniques. It's funny that that subculture exists and how passionate they are about it.

In reply to this comment by inflatablevagina:
The book also shows how unstable he is. Hes a titty baby.
I do think the whole seduction society is pretty interesting. it's obviously working.

In reply to this comment by Sketch:
I met the ever flamboyant Mystery at a club in LA once, as well as some of his crew including a couple of season 1 contestants. He actually seemed like a pretty cool guy and was quite gracious when I "opened his set" (talked to him). Also, Neil Strauss's book The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists which is pretty much all about Neil's life as Mystery's wingman was an absolutely fascinating read.