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Capitalism Didn’t Make the iPhone, You iMbecile

newtboy says...

Really? Can you offer a comparative American/Russian timeline of computer telecommunication innovations, or are you just assuming? Be sure to focus on pre '68 era, before American socialism was applied in large part (public funding/monopoly busting).

And for some unknown to you reason China is beating the ever loving pants off America lately....so what's your point? Certainly not that Capitalism always beats socialism, I hope you aren't that deluded. Both have strengths and weaknesses, both ebb and flow. Neither are the sole determining factor for inventiveness, neither has a monopoly on invention.

Russia beat America into space even with their near poverty level economy at the time, and despite the fact that their scientists definitely didn't personally profit from their myriad of inventions required to make it happen.
I'm not arguing which is better, that's like arguing over which color is better....better in what way? I'm arguing against your contention that ONLY personal profit drives invention or innovation. That's clearly a mistaken assumption imo.

bcglorf said:

And for some unknown mysterious reason America beat the ever living pants off of the USSR through that entire development period...

60 teens vandalizing and looting Walgreens

newtboy says...

1) I'm not opposed to suicide. If life makes you unhappy, I don't insist you suffer through it. People who judge themselves unworthy of life fall into that category.

2) I've been at it for 45 years+-. It has nothing to do with strength, it's about a compulsion to work towards fairness, knowing it won't ever be reached, at least in my lifetime. I'm strong enough to never condone or excuse clear racism as long as I draw breath.

3) ? You would catch the arsonists before the home owner and their children and not lay blame at their feet. I would let the arsonist burn, locking them inside the house they ignited after saving the family. He's the one with the gas can and lighter if you can't identify who is who.
Calling out wholly inappropriate behavior/speech is never a waste of time. Gaining the trust of racists at the expense of their victims and society as a whole is worse than a waste of time, it's supporting racism.

4) My point. Let them get it, while not allowing your gift to be stolen or misused for harm or other things they get judged harshly for. No judgement, no opportunity for misuse, not just throwing money at a problem, helping a person.

BSR said:

1) Everyone makes mistakes. When the error of their ways is exposed they may change or they may put a gun to their head. Only they can judge themselves.

2) Keep denouncing as long as you can. You will need to know how strong you were.

3) Nipping it in the bud every single time will be a waste of time. When the house is on fire and people are jumping, you need to be there to catch them just as they will be there to catch you.

4) No need to judge. Give as little or as much as you like without terms or conditions. They know better than you what they need.

President Carter on Trump, Russia, and the Election

newtboy says...

What about me? I do all those things and more. I didn't just change my own brakes, I swapped my own motor. I don't just plow my field, I sow, weed, and harvest that field. I've not only repaired a roof, I've built a few. I know hard work, I was a one man desert racing crew. Now that's hard work, being mechanic, transporter, driver, and pit crew....all at 112 degrees.

So, why don't I love Trump? Because I'm a real conservative....ecologically conservative, fiscally conservative, fact based, socially liberal (the government has no place in my bedroom or my body), and insistent on honesty.

Republicans abandoned conservatism before I could vote.

THEY fear us now like one fears the 100lb ranting sore ridden meth head at the bus stop, not for our strength and resolve, but our dangerous unpredictability and diseases.

BSR said:

But what about his followers? They love him. Not for his money but for his anger. His anger against those pussy dems and anyone else that doesn't know how to change brakes on a car or plow a field or throw sod or repair a roof or work real hard.

Trump might not make them richer but he can punish them there weak snowflakes. Make this country tough again! Make the world submit again! Make 'em all fear us again.

How This Cyclist Hit 184MPH and Set the World Record

newtboy says...

Probably, but if some new type of bike was designed, who knows? That's what intrigued me.
Full fairings and recumbent bikes were both huge leaps, if someone made a bike that also used arm and core strength or some other advantage I can't imagine, who knows what an extraordinary person could achieve?

I mean...If I strap on a bike and jump from a plane and reach faster speeds, does that count? ;-)

BSR said:

I think we both know that doubling the previous record would be impossible under the conditions the pros compete in. Plus the pros make their record on indoor tracks if I'm not mistaken.

How the Pink Tax Is Ripping Off Women

eric3579 says...

I'm pretty sure that the women paid twenty cents on the dollar comment is highly debatable. My understanding was that when you actually compared apples to apples it was around six or seven percent. Still not zero where it should be but also not twenty as was stated. (edit) John says 4-8% https://videosift.com/video/Is-the-Gender-Pay-Gap-Real

And just for fun i wanted to check the prices myself for the items in the video.

The CVS Menstrual pain medication they compared are NOT the same.
The menstrual product has Acetaminophen AND two additional ingredients
- https://www.cvs.com/shop/cvs-health-menstrual-complete-menstrual-relief-caplets-prodid-456231?skuid=456231
- https://www.cvs.com/shop/cvs-health-extra-strength-pain-relief-acetaminophen-caplets-500mg-24-ct-prodid-686584?skuid=686584

The razors are not on CVS website but are on BICS website. Comparing prices of the two products shown in the video, the "womens" one was actually cheaper by fifty cents. Also can't be sure that the razors they are comparing are exactly the same. Probably close enough though.
Womens Soleil Twilight https://razor.shopbic.com/womens/products?blades=3-4+blades&sortBy=price-asc
Mens Flex 3
https://razor.shopbic.com/mens/products?blades=3-4+blades&sortBy=rating

The same kids snorkel i found on Amazon. The one shop who actually has it in pink and also has two other colors are selling them for the same price.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B01NC315ML/ref=olp_twister_child?ie=UTF8&mv_color_name=1

The baby walker i found on Wallmarts site, and the pink one cost more. The other has been discounted from its original price.
pink https://www.walmart.com/ip/Delta-Children-Lil-Fun-Walker-Choose-Your-Color/50862055?selected=true
blue/green https://www.walmart.com/ip/Delta-Children-Lil-Fun-Walker-Choose-Your-Color/50862051?selected=true

The Underwear were as stated in the video. Different quantity at the same price.
https://www.cvs.com/shop/cvs-health-women-s-underwear-maximum-absorbency-xl-lavender-24-ct-prodid-830474
https://www.cvs.com/shop/cvs-health-men-s-underwear-maximum-absorbency-l-xl-32ct-prodid-842939

Well that was a fun little project

Mordhaus (Member Profile)

BSR says...

You are here for him now, Moe. Keep him alive and help others as he helped you. Make his passing your strength. You have the torch now. You let him into your heart. Take good care of him. You are not alone.

Mordhaus said:

Going to be afk for a few days. I am really fucking bummed out right now, just heard on the radio that one of my favorite musicians committed suicide.

I suffer from anxiety and depression, so I kind of have a sense of the thoughts that might have led to his suicide. It just fucking sucks that someone couldn't be there for him the way that he and the band were there for me during some of my dark times in the 90s/2000s.

Sexual Assault of Men Played for Laughs

newtboy says...

Using violence, torture, and the backing of the Russian military, and after numerous failed coup and assassination attempts he took and held tenuous control. Torture hardly played a huge roll or he would have been successful the first time, or the second. He retained and increased that power in the 70-80's by spending his huge amounts of oil money on the people, mostly not by torturing them (except for Kurds).

The "others in the room" we're his forces, not random people who murdered for him out of relief. He didn't hand weapons to an adversarial group he was convincing to follow his lead by having them kill those who wouldn't. I mean...WHAT?

You use fear mongering as proof torture works? Um... ok.

Since what I've been discussing is torture working to get sensitive, useful information, not the long term terrorism and brutal oppression of a population, I'll just move on.
Yes, despots can ride nations into the ground by making the populations powerless and fearful until those populations revolt. Yes, an iron hand and willingness to make your population stone aged can allow you to hold on a long time. Yes, torture can be part of that, but only one small unnecessary part, a strong military willing to murder unarmed civilians is what it takes, torture or not.

Wow, now you think the U.S. military taking out Saddam proves torture works because ...force and violence?

Strength vs weakness is what worked, not torture or terrorism, that's why he failed, brought down by a coalition of locals and Americans with his military deserting him in droves when he needed them most.

Torture is not a functional interrogation technique nor a means to foster loyalty, only fear. Fear only works until someone adds hope to the equation.

bcglorf said:

Saddam took control of an oil rich nation of 30+ million people using violence and torture.


He had them record his clinching moment on video, where you can still watch him drag out a visibly broken man(well agreed to have been broken through torture, Saddam deliberately flaunted this), and has the man read out a list of names of co-conspirators. Sure, Saddam undoubtedly wrote the list himself, but he was already powerful and feared enough it didn't matter and this evidence was enough. The co-conspirators were hauled out for execution, and the others in the room were fearful/relieved enough that when they were ordered to perform the executions themselves they did.

Saddam then ruled Iraq for another 24 years before he was forcibly removed by foreign powers, not any manner of domestic uprising.

Don't tell me that nobody else in Iraq wanted the job for that quarter century, instead Saddam's brutal methods were successful in keeping his hold on power throughout that time. None of that makes his methods 'right', but to declare that the methods are ineffective is just silly. Doubly so if you observe his hold on power wasn't removed by crowds of peaceful protesters rising up removing him in a bloodless coup, but rather through the use of more force and violence than Saddam could muster in return.

JiggaJonson (Member Profile)

BSR says...

Oh the anger, the anger.

These movies are targeted toward children and also adults. Mostly children.

Children can and want to relate to the heros. Take Woody for example. The kids love Woody. They understand all of Woody's happy times and sad times. All his strengths and weaknesses. Woody is a lot like them. By design, the kids are Woody.

When Woody gets tortured, kids are very sensitive to that. Some kids more than others relate all to well. Those kids are the ones that these movies are reaching out to. The ones that see the horrors of dad beating mom. Spanking. Bullies at school. Handicapped children. On and on.

Because kids love Woody they know he understands their pain and fear. Woody has relatable problems and Woody is going to show them how to cope in deep ways that they can understand.

They understand Woody has great friends that can help him. And Woody would do anything to help his friends.

Sometimes if you look at something and see only bad, don't let anger get in the way of finding the good.

JiggaJonson said:

I could go on, but I hope to make this simple point:
These films do NOT have to include a torture scene. It's simply odd to me that it appears so often, instilling the idea early on that torture works for getting information or cooperation out of people.

Finally, I point to one of many pieces of research on the matter https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5325643/

Twins take 5 DNA Ancestry tests and get 'mystifying' results

nanrod says...

I have to say that as a Canadian I was disappointed in this program. I don't think they raised the right points or asked the right questions. I do think these services hype themselves to much and maybe many people go into this with exaggerated expectations of what they can do for you. I did both 23andMe and Ancestry and to me the strength lies in identifying possible relatives. Fortunately for me, the first person on my relative list is my daughter who apparently shares exactly 50.0% of my DNA.

eric3579 said:

The question is, should this be in the *debunked channel? Sure does seem like a bit of a scam.

We Believe: The Best Men Can Be - Gillette Ad

BSR says...

When I was a kid, I was like you are now.

I was showing off, thinking I was impressing the kids around me. After a short while a girl came up to me. Her name was Sandy. She looked me right in the eye and said to me, "You think you're strong?"

She then spit on the ground and said, "Pick that up."

That's when I learned about tough women. If you don't see the strength in that, grow up.

bobknight33 said:

When the average woman can change a tire or brakes on the car, then maybe then Ill teach my son to be less of a man.

The 10-Year-Old Lifting More Than Her Body Weight

ChaosEngine says...

Honestly, my first reaction was "wow, 10 is very young to be doing that kind of weightlifting".

But...

a quick google reveals that strength training is fine from about 7 to 8 onwards.

So, it's not hurting her, she likes it and it's keeping her fit and healthy... great stuff!!

When you forget to strap in your hang gliding passenger

Sue's favourite Anglo-Saxon sword I Curator's Corner

C-note says...

"... age is nothing to be embarrassed about. We shouldn't be worried about our grey hairs and wrinkles and those sort of things. They are not a sign of weakness. In actual fact we should embrace the strength, the authority that they give to us ."

Trump On Bullying Ford-"Doesn't Matter, We Won"

RFlagg says...

I have two boys, 9 and 14. If they treated people the way Trump, and most of the right, treats people, I'd be ashamed and reprimand them, especially if they did it publicly the way Trump has mocked a disabled reporter, Ford, the parents of fallen soldier... we could go on and on about how he mocks people on a regular basis. Every major religion has some variation of the Golden Rule, treat others as you'd have others treat you, especially Christianity, and yet the entire right ignores this rule, especially when it's somebody they oppose. Be it LGBTQIA+ people, political opponents, economic opponents, they ignore the Golden Rule. They in fact view it as a sign of strength to openly be hostile and rude to others, and yet, when one of theirs is mocked by late night TV, or when Sarah Sanders is kicked out of a restaurant (days after the fact that the entire right was celebrating the Supreme Court victory that they don't have to serve people they don't like), suddenly it is all "why can't people be civilized"? Plank in your own eye ass holes.

As Bob says politics is mean and ugly, but Republicans, Christians, made it that way and have been doubling down on it, ignoring the commandments to Love on another, the commandment to treat others as you'd have them treat you, not to judge least ye be judged and on and on. And somehow the right views that as a strength, as a good thing. They view McCain's efforts to reach across the isle and find a common center ground that everyone can agree on as a weakness. They don't want or will accept a 50/50 solution, they want a solution that is 80 or even better 90 percent on their side, and anything less than that is the other side being obstructionist.

Anyhow, if my kids acted the way Trump does, our President, whom we should hold to the highest standards, I'd make them apologize and be frank with them that I was appalled at their behavior, to mock a person with a disability or a woman or any other person the way Trump does on a regular basis. Yet the entire right is falling over themselves with pleasure at this rude behavior... I just don't get it. I don't get how that is acceptable behavior now from the President of the United States. It'd be one thing if he was still the piece of shit business man (who's business' constantly fail and need bankruptcy protection, even though he rarely pays contractors), 2nd rate reality TV show star, but this is the highest office in the land, where we should expect a person to act with dignity. I may have found Bush Jr to be an idiot and a horrible President, but at least he treated people with respect and the way one would expect of a President. Now we have a man-child and somehow this is a great thing. Fuck our lives when this is acceptable, when this is in fact praise worthy by far too many on the right (and I know, many Republicans said it was wrong of Trump to mock her the way he did, but they didn't really stand up to him, just a quick line to appease the few who might vote for them that would be appalled at that behavior).

EDIT TO ADD: What's upsetting about the Merrick Garland Supreme Court nomination is that they didn't even hold hearings. They had the votes to block him from confirmation, so hold hearings, say "no" and move on, but they wouldn't even do that. And he'd probably have been one of the most moderate justices in the modern era, which would have made explaining the "no" harder perhaps, but at least it would have been fair. But apparently fair is for the weak, one must play the ugly game now... and look at Bob's one reply, they got their eye on Ginsburg, they are hoping she dies so they can replace her with another theocrat like Kavanaugh, and because of that expectation and hope, you can guarantee that all the right will be out in force come November. We really need a miracle turnout to start to change things...

PA State Police Shooting Dashcam Video

Mordhaus says...

The command was confusing, but I can see the officer's POV by that point. He had tried to grab one or both cop's actual firearms, I can see one attempt at :24. Then he tried to charge the cop with the taser out and punch him.

He got tased and missed, falling to the ground. They tased him for a bit, dragged him out of the road, and the other officer moved his backup gun that had fell out onto the ground out of reach. Then came the confusing comments. They were attempting to move him, so I think if he had stopped there it would have been over. But he kept fighting.

The crazy thing is, none of these actions seem to match those of someone high on weed. These are more like the stuff you see with PCP or crack. Multiple taser hits, extraordinary strength, shrugging off hits from two people, and being able to drive off with a bullet lodged in his head.

BSR said:

I have to agree somewhat. My first comment was about the command they were giving. I can't tell for sure if they are saying "Get on your back" or "Get off your back".

I seem to hear "Get on your back" which he already is. I believe what the police wanted was "Get on your stomach" but if the command was "Get off your back" I can see where confusion might come into play for the black man especially after having continuous stunning.

If the command was indeed "Get on your back" then that makes all the difference as he was already on his back and following commands.

BTW, the black man drove directly to a local hospital where the staff reported to police an ER patient with bullet wounds. They were not aware of the shooting but by law are required to report all gun injuries.



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