>> ^Sagemind:

Give in to your inner 14-year-old!
You're sounding like an old man trying to justify away your inhibitions.:P
Movies like this are a 14-year old fantacy. It's a delve into all that is comic book cool. Super power invincibility, Cyberpunk, Steam Punk, Mech-Warriors, Martial Arts, Sci-Fi, Ancient Wisdom, Fighting for your life, Frailty, Wisdom, Sensuality, Sacrifice, Cute girls, Fantasy, Thoughts within thoughts and so much more. Like the ogre said, "The onion has layers!"
"Let's have hot chicks! with guns! fighting samurai! with more guns! and dragons!" - YES, Lets!
If you go into this movie, leave behind your common-sense brain and take with you, your fourteen-year-old brain. If you expect reality, you're watching the wrong movie!
>> ^ChaosEngine:
while there's no doubting Snyders technical skill, he really has no original ideas at all. This movie played like it was written by a 14 year old boy. Let's have hot chicks! with guns! fighting samurai! with more guns! and dragons!
Honestly, I went into it expecting mindless fun, so my standards weren't high. But not only was it boring, it was downright creepy, like watching an old man hit on a teenage girl.
edit: actually while I'm on this soapbox.... the costumes on the lead actress were borderline paedophilia. And she was rubbish.



The merits of hot chicks (babydolls creepiness aside) fighting dragons, steampunk nazis, etc are lost on me. Which was why it was so surprising that the whole thing was boring at best and lurid at worst.

Even watching the action sequences, you're aware that what you're actually watching is a fantasy within a fantasy. At one layer removed you are watching women forced into sex slavery and "reality" is not much better.

If you wanted to make a straight up action movie, with awesome set-pieces and a ridiculous plot, go for it. But what plot there was made the whole thing feel seedy.

I tried, believe me. I went with a bunch of mates. We had beer and ribs beforehand. And we still came out genuinely wondering if Snyder was that stupid.

Or maybe not...

and here is really the only excuse I can give this. Maybe it's meant to be creepy and weird. There's a infinitesimal chance that there is actually a meta-narrative, that the whole thing is a work of subversive genius; a commentary on how comfortable we are with fetishizing things that are in many ways genuinely wrong.

But somehow, I doubt it.

>> ^steampunks:

very cool, can one actually get to play with this tech or is this going to be one those integrated features for a ueber expensive software package


I'd like to know this too.

age of empires steampunk mode

>> ^BicycleRepairMan:

Fuckin' cogwheels, how do they work?
LOVE IT!!! Someone buy that man a fucking drink

Reminds me of... not is ... it shares a general concept but not the motivation to create obediance.

Here, the language takes away the context of human idioms, emotion, and cultural norms embedded in the words replacing it with dry descriptions and simplified adverbs. e.g. Lips, eyes, smile, waiter, food, drink, menus, mirrors, tears, man, woman. Smiling or crying means something. Lip uplifting or dripping salt liquid is an empty description.

Living with such a language would limit the ability to think and behave emotively as a human... there just wouldn't be a word for it any more.>> ^poolcleaner:

>> ^raverman:
Awesome Post! Steampunk style poetry... reminds me of Orwellian "Newspeak".

It's more like the opposite of Newspeak. Newspeak was a parred down vocabulary, simplifying sentence structure, omitting alternative words, and emphasizing simplistic concatenations such as "doublethink", as well as shortened concatenations such as "minitrue" (Ministry of Truth). It's also important to note that in order to truly speak and understand Newspeak you must have a specific understanding of each word, for no single word is intended to be used in any other way than it's original meaning, eliminating poetics.
This video, on the other hand, is a string of modern expressions filled with stiff latinate words for comedic (and poetic) effect. There are too many thoughts associated with each word to be even remotely considered for ingsoc's Oceania.

>> ^raverman:

Awesome Post! Steampunk style poetry... reminds me of Orwellian "Newspeak".


It's more like the opposite of Newspeak. Newspeak was a parred down vocabulary, simplifying sentence structure, omitting alternative words, and emphasizing simplistic concatenations such as "doublethink", as well as shortened concatenations such as "minitrue" (Ministry of Truth). It's also important to note that in order to truly speak and understand Newspeak you must have a specific understanding of each word, for no single word is intended to be used in any other way than it's original meaning, eliminating poetics.

This video, on the other hand, is a string of modern expressions filled with stiff latinate words for comedic (and poetic) effect. There are too many thoughts associated with each word to be even remotely considered for ingsoc's Oceania.

Awesome Post! Steampunk style poetry... reminds me of Orwellian "Newspeak".

1) The Victorian / Steampunk elements looked amazing.
2) The points that the female game designer makes are 100% correct. Immersion is ruined by lack of player influence on the world. The fact that they can articulate this so clearly gives me confidence that they can fix it to some degree. Blizzard realizes the problem, as well, which is why they've started to rely so heavily on phasing. Arguably phasing is a more seamless solution to the problem compared to phasing. Both are a bit unnatural, still.

Looks cool...but why can't comment writers stop copying each other with the freakin' self refferential post format? This comment sounds exactly like Jaaces and teebeenz' combined. I'm getting tired of reading through these ironical templates and would rather enjoy a different meme for once in this half of a day.
>> ^campionidelmondo:

Looks cool...but why can't game developers stop copying each other with the freakin' location/storylines? This game sounds exactly like quake and bioshock combined. I'm getting tired of scary dark steampunk post-apocalyptic worlds and would rather play in a different locale for once this decade.
>> ^teebeenz:

Looks cool...but why can't book publishers stop copying each other with the freakin' location/storylines? This book sounds exactly like the middle ages and lord of the rings combined. I'm getting tired of tromping through "worlds filled with trees and grass" and would rather play in a different locale for once this decade.
>> ^Jaace:

Looks cool...but why can't game companies stop copying each other with the freakin' location/storylines? This game sounds exactly like Fallout (1,2 or 3) and Borderlands combined. I'm getting tired of tromping through "post-apocalyptic wastelands" and would rather play in a different locale for once this decade.

Looks cool...but why can't game developers stop copying each other with the freakin' location/storylines? This game sounds exactly like quake and bioshock combined. I'm getting tired of scary dark steampunk post-apocalyptic worlds and would rather play in a different locale for once this decade.

Oh, my dear. Flattery will get you everywhere.

In reply to this comment by EDD:
I know you have a fantastic (re: similar to mine) taste in games, and you seem to be a fan of everything steampunk, so I thought you might find this to your liking: http://videosift.com/video/Edge-of-Twilight-Trailer-Someone-Special

I know you have a fantastic (re: similar to mine) taste in games, and you seem to be a fan of everything steampunk, so I thought you might find this to your liking: http://videosift.com/video/Edge-of-Twilight-Trailer-Someone-Special

I think this video does count as a *meme since I think you can trace a lot of the tiresome gadzookery and steampunk on the internet back to this moment in our childhood. I'm guiltier than anyone.

^I agree, but it's nicely done, with the steampunk & the music. But hardly warrants the "innovative" tag.

awesome
functional steampunk ftw