I blame the neo-dadaist movement>> ^Estuffing17:

Okay, all additional 'holier than though' ridiculously over-reactive comments aside, how the hell did this make the top fifteen? Honestly people, what the hell is wrong with you that you upvote such meaningless drivel? It's not funny, nor thought-provoking, nor sexy, nor informative, it doesn't elicit an emotional response of any kind. I come to this site for better stuff than this crap guys.

Okay, all additional 'holier than though' ridiculously over-reactive comments aside, how the hell did this make the top fifteen? Honestly people, what the hell is wrong with you that you upvote such meaningless drivel? It's not funny, nor thought-provoking, nor sexy, nor informative, it doesn't elicit an emotional response of any kind. I come to this site for better stuff than this crap guys.

The problem with both parties here in the US AND Communism is that they're all based around central planning. Central planning is always going to have hideous unforeseen consequences and drawbacks, and those consequences and drawbacks will become continually more spectacular and significant as the world becomes more complex.

Being against central planning may sound like an anti-regulation or Libertarian view, but it's not. Libertarians want as little government as possible...I don't. I just want government to stop trying to create and manage complex systems based on mathematical models of the world that can never be complete.

Regulations should be roughly akin to commandments, but should be flexible. You come up with a set of rules and then you tinker with them over time. It's a lot better to tell people not to do things you know are bad than it is to try and tell people how to do things. The latter nearly always ends up being terrible for some subset of whatever group you're trying to make policy for. The former is reactive, and therefore politically non-viable because humans generally have a bias toward intervention. People pick leaders because of what they say they know and what they say they'll do. People need to start learning that saying "I don't know" is often the most honest answer, and doing nothing is often the best course of action.

Centrally planned government as we know it and corporations are pretty much the same thing in my book.

I think FDR had it about right...you do something and if it doesn't work you try something else until you find something that does work. It's called tinkering. It's what nature does! Not to mention every significant invention in the history of the world has been produced in this way...discovered by accident while tinkering with something questionably related. Probably the best example of this that relates to any videos that have been on sift lately is the DeGrasse-Tyson video about the big bang...the two guys that won the Nobel for physics in 1978 won it purely by accident.

>> ^v1k1n6:

Ha, idiots. Worst mechanics ever. They obviously know nothing about cars. There is no Z07, only Z06, and it took forever for them to figure out it was the clutch.
He sure was proud of all that smoke though.


Actually, technically, there's a "Z07" package for the Z06, Brembo brakes, electric reactive shocks, some other crap. Basically there for more penis. You can get 10x the performance for 1/2 the $ aftermarket.

They new it was the clutch, one of them said to stop early on, but the rest, as CelebrateApathy said, were looking like ($)($) at it.

>> ^KnivesOut:

So did the entire market take a hit because one exchange as compromised?
On another note, is now the time to buy bitcoins?


Yes, but not much.

Mt.Gox is was the primary exchange with >95% of all BTC/USD trades taking place there. So it going down means:

1) All the active balances in USD & BTC are locked in Mt.Gox database until they reactivate.
2) If Mt.Gox decides that they can't cover their accounts they may go bankrupt, which means all the money in point #1 goes into legal limbo.
3) All trading has to move to a different exchange, probably tradehill.
4) Liquidity just disappeared for about 24hrs, which happens at least once a week in most markets, but BTC is accustomed to 24/7

Tradehill is already hopping, right now it's back at 15USD/BTC

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indeed.

Much of my work is on somatic theory.
Chiropractic, as an osteopathy derivative, has some solid basis in that they look at nerve compression at the spine, and while it is certainly true that decompressing innervation at the spine can help with other problems, such as GI issues and asthma, in a technique sense they are only focusing on one aspect of distortion - that of restriction at the spine. However, once there is a distortion at the spine (the bottom of the brain) it becomes a whole body pattern and issue...which requires far more time, patience, and attention to detail than merely popping a facet joint. It requires the type of time and patience that is non-existent in most of western medicine, or chiropractic. The body is a seamless whole.

It's very hard to make a lot of money doing this work.
But a chiro can pop 10 people an hour. A western doc can write 40 scrips an hour.

Massage is typically working by accident. It helps, but it is premised on a muscular approach, which is incredibly misleading. Muscles may dominate the body in terms of size, but they are a reactive system, not a controlling system, and the lowest man on the totem pole in terms of the hierarchy of survival mechanisms. Physical therapy is also stuck on the muscular approach to the body. In fact, this approach typically dominates western thought when it comes to somatic/structural distortion/pain. And most people go to hospitals with essentially somatic complaints. See where i'm going with this?

Harrington rods for scoliosis should one day be properly viewed as barbaric.


In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
A friend of mine had scoliosis, at least I think that what she had, I never heard the proper medical term for it. She had it corrected by doctors inserting some metal rods by her spine, so now her back is all stiff - I'm a little vague on the details since it's a while since I heard the story.

In any case, I agree that we must also heavily scrutinize the medical system, since companies go where the profits are, and if there are no profits to be had, then that kind of medicine is discarded and abandoned. This is what has happened with many potential cancer treatments, since there is less profit in un-patentable formulas than those that can be patented.

If your methods actually do work consistently then it would certainly stand up to scientific standards, it must be replicable and verifiable and that's basically it. The problem is that often it works like "magic" and heals some, but not all with what appears to be the same illness. This is due to a lack of understanding of what is actually wrong with a patient.

The back and nervous system is notoriously hard to "fix" since few people understand it very well and each person is unique (to some extent).

Some "alternative" medicines are perinormal - they work, but we don't know it yet. They are essentially medicines, but we have not determined precisely how and why they help. "Home remedies" are really a proto-version of alternative medicines in this way, in that someone once used it and it worked. Others, like homeopathy, are demonstrably false and are indeed scams. The make wild claims based on nothing but superstition and humbug.

Prayer is also not medicine. If you get bitten by a snake and pray for the venom to leave your body, you die.

The court of public opinion is highly subjective and cannot be trusted to make reliable judgments. This is why the scientific method exists - to eliminate the need for "he said, she said".

It is smart to be weary of the medicinal industry, I'll grant you that, but your doctor is not an arm of that - he (or she) is a healer, that is their goal. I am deeply troubled when certain doctors are influenced by incentives that go against the patient's best interest - it does happen, medicinal firms offering bonuses if you use their products even though they're inferior and so on. But the fact remains that this inferior product has still gone through channels which ensure that it does work, alternative medicine does not.

It is absolutely imperative that people are not deceived to believe that some treatments do more than they think, like when chiropractic offers treatments to non-musceloskeletal problems like ADHD or asthma. It may help your back, fair enough, I've cracked my own back and I think it helps, because it feels good - chocolate feels good too, but it doesn't help my health.

The second such a snake oil salesman does not want to stand up to proper scrutiny is when he has revealed himself to be a fraud. Because if his method is disproved, then he cannot fake it anymore.

I do not doubt that massage therapy does offer relief and helps with muscle problems, I could also believe that chiropractic helps with joint pain, muscle pain or some skeletal problems - but they must be studied and analysed properly and not just pretend like it works, we must know WHY it works.

In reply to this comment by criticalthud:
Some great insights.
My difficulty is in the gross generalizations that are taking place.
I do what some people call "alternative" medicine. I don't necessarily take exception to that title given the state of western medicine.
Growing up with a scoliosis I searched for different approaches to fix the problem, and eventually ended up practicing and teaching manual therapy from a neurological model of the body, focusing on rotational distortion. It is essentially cutting edge, and i can do things with a spine that would make a western neurosurgeon question his approach.

However I may not stand up to scrutiny by western standards, since I essentially view the body in a much different manner, and certainly work with it in a much different manner.
Tomorrow however, may be a different story, as it has been with acupuncture, massage, osteopathy, non-freudian psychology, or any number of treatments that have made their way into the mainstream. Scrutiny is often the court of public opinion, although this court of opinion is greatly effected by what we have been brought up to believe and who we automatically give status and credibility to.

I think it is essential that all practitioners of the healing arts, including western medicine, realize that our actual knowledge of the human body, it's functions, and it's abilities, is very small. And it is exceedingly important to keep those doors to possibilities open.

At the same time, it is incumbent upon us to heavily scrutinize the current accepted treatments which are more often than not inadequate, reliant upon drugs, or are barbaric in nature. At the same time we must heavily scrutinize an overall system which is premised on the industry making a profit, which lends itself to indefinitely treating symptoms rather than preventative medicine.

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
Scientific method.

"Alternative" medicine wants to do the same thing as Intelligent Design, it wants to take the easy road. ID wants to be in the class room without having sufficient evidence to support its claim. Alternative medicine wants to be sold and used to heal sick people. The latter is fine and even admirable, if it works, but there is insufficient evidence to support the claims that alternative medicine makes.

If you buy a service from me that I cannot provide, then you have been scammed and my claim was bunk. This is what alternative medicine does.

Defining alternative, it's medicine that hasn't gone through thorough scrutiny and does not stand up to it. It is medicine that doesn't work.

Pick your poison: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_medicine Homeopathy, Chiropractic, energy therapy, crystals all that stuff.

Regarding massage and acupuncture, I'm in a more relaxed approach, because they don't promise magical solutions. Massage works at healing muscle pain, certainly, and it certainly relaxing. Acupuncture, I don't have sufficient knowledge about to make a definitive judgment about. Naturally, I'm skeptical, because as far as I know, it has not been tested to the proper extent that it should to be called medicine. When I read about more details of it "Qi" and whatnot - I get more skeptical.

It may work, but it should be tested experimentally, before making claims of healing.

People are allowed to use their money as they want, but these things should damn well not be able to call themselves medicine. Relaxation, sure, therapy, perhaps, healing - no.

In reply to this comment by criticalthud:
would you care to define alternative? do you mean non-american, non-western?
does acupuncture stand up to western scrutiny? how about manual therapy? who's scrutiny are you talking about? Tell me how you measure what people FEEL with a machine, or a bloodtest.
how well does typical western medicine deal with back pain? - drugs, drugs, more drugs?
how about a scoliosis? neurological strain patterns? any chronic pain issue?
western medicine, relies on over-drugging it's patients, treating each as a number. What and how they practice is often completely controlled by insurance companies.
perhaps your statement doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
sure there is crap out there, but lets not pretend that western medicine is immune. far from it, it's peddling a good portion of the stinkiest garbage.



In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
Alternative medicine is bunk. Like alternative math or alternative reason.

If there was any truth to it, it would stand up to scrutiny and it would be used as proper treatment. Homeopathy especially is downright fraud.

*debunked

>> ^jonny:

Ok, I understand how they are able to provide inverse reactive current to the unilateral phase detractor, but unless they have a Turbo-Encabulator, how do they synchronize the cardinal grammeter? Even with a Turbo-Ecabulator driven with magneto-relecutance and capacitive diractance, it doesn't completely solve the problem of sinusoidal deplenaration.


Just send a polaron pulse set to the frequency of cosmic background radiation through the main deflector! Duh.

>> ^jonny:

Ok, I understand how they are able to provide inverse reactive current to the unilateral phase detractor, but unless they have a Turbo-Encabulator, how do they synchronize the cardinal grammeter? Even with a Turbo-Ecabulator driven with magneto-relecutance and capacitive diractance, it doesn't completely solve the problem of sinusoidal deplenaration.


I think they are planning to use a Johnson rod.

Ok, I understand how they are able to provide inverse reactive current to the unilateral phase detractor, but unless they have a Turbo-Encabulator, how do they synchronize the cardinal grammeter? Even with a Turbo-Ecabulator driven with magneto-relecutance and capacitive diractance, it doesn't completely solve the problem of sinusoidal deplenaration.

We are a reactive society, slow to change unless pushed. Napolitano asks the perfect question -- how many WILL it take?

Well, I have been lurking around here for years (I was bareboards before I was bareboards2 -- I couldn't figure out how to reactivate bareboards after that crash that happened a year or so ago, so my join date is way off.) So after four years, I have posted two videos. It may take a lifetime for Bronzing to occur.

And thanks for the double promote for Seth. His mom thanks you, too, I'm sure.

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
You're welcome. Also, you can't fix thumbnails (even your own) until you get your Bronze star. So you'll have to get to work, amigo.

In reply to this comment by bareboards2:
Thanks! Thanks for fixing the tags. And thanks to lucky760 for fixing the thumbnail. I don't know how to do that. Yet.


In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
Nice first video. Definitely not one you'll normally see around here.

I also wrote this because your profile could use at least one comment that isn't a wall of text.

From Dr Phil's Website:

Dr. Phil plays a video of Jessica standing in her bathroom yelling at her 7-year-old son, Kristoff. Dr. Phil interrupts the tape before its completion and turns to the mom of six.

“So that makes sense to you?” he asks, indicating her discipline techniques.

“I don’t know what to do with this child,” she replies.

“I’m just going to tell you up front, there is no theory under which that is going to work. There is no theory under which that makes sense,” Dr. Phil says. “You had to know that was going to be my attitude about this.”

“Of course,” she says.

When the videotape ends, mouths hang open, and many audience members wipe away tears.

“I need to say this and be very clear. We didn’t shoot that tape. Your daughter shot that tape,” Dr. Phil reminds Jessica. “Because if I had a camera crew in your home shooting that, and they didn’t intervene and stop it, there would be something seriously wrong with my camera crew. I think anybody would look at that and say that that is absolutely outrageous, it is over the top, it is abusive, it is inefficient, it is out of control. I’m sorry. I just have to tell you the truth.”

“You’re completely entitled to your opinions,” Jessica says. “That’s why I’m here.”

“I’m glad you are here, because I’m telling you, that has to stop,” Dr. Phil warns Jessica. “If you say you’ve been through everything — you’ve tried time-outs, you’ve done this, you’ve done that — if you’re down to that, then you need to give the child up, because you are out of control. Somebody in the audience yelled out, ‘That is evil.’ I don’t believe that. I don’t believe you’re an evil person. I think you are misguided. I think you think you’re doing the only thing you know how to do, but that is totally unacceptable.”

“Then tell me what I need to do with him,” Jessica says in frustration.

Dr. Phil explains what Jessica means in the videotape when she says Kristoff “pulled three cards" at school. Green means good job, yellow is a warning, blue is a time-out, orange means removal from class and red means a trip to the principal’s office. “He had three cards that day. What were they for?” Dr. Phil asks.

“He was throwing pencils, he was sword fighting with another child, and he was acting out in another class,” Jessica replies.

“Your theory is, based on that, he then lied about it? He didn’t tell you he got the three?”

“Correct.”

“Let me tell you, I would lie 100 out of 100 times. You are teaching him to lie,” Dr. Phil points out. “Based on results, what you’re doing isn’t working.”

“So tell me what will,” Jessica says. “I will be happy to abandon all of that.”

“I believe you are desperate for answers,” Dr. Phil notes.

In an interview, Jessica’s husband, Gary, explains how he feels about his wife’s methods for disciplining Kristoff. “Jessica is more frustrated than angry, because we’ve added more kids to the house. When Jessica gets frustrated, I see her having a shorter temper. Kristoff has not reacted to much of our discipline,” he says. “The idea for hot sauce came up from my wife talking to a friend of hers. In the military, we use cold showers for discipline, basically to get people’s attention. When Kristoff gets a cold shower, he pays attention at the moment. I feel like I’m strict with my kids.”

When the videotape ends, Dr. Phil turns to Jessica. “You believe that, in fact, he has reactive attachment disorder,” he says, referring to her adopted son.

“Correct,” she answers.

“Is that your diagnosis, or has he been seen by a professional who has rendered that diagnosis?”

“He was seen by a professional for a while, but I don’t know if that professional diagnosed him as reactive attachment disorder,” Jessica replies.

“He is a twin, and his brother is not like this at all,” Dr. Phil points out.

http://www.drphil.com/slideshows/slideshow/6062/?id=6062&showID=1545

Also:
Reactive attachment disorder
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactive_attachment_disorder

>> ^Truckchase:

While their allegiance with the tea party isn't in dispute, this argument would be more effective if you pin it on the individuals, not the party. Each of the candidates is up for their respective race individually, not collectively. When it's labeled "tea party blah blah" you immediately alienate anyone that identifies with the tea party and condemn it to support all candidates in a reactive fashion. I propose we tone down the rhetoric and call these folks out directly as individuals for their lack of constitutional understanding.
That said, I agree with Cenk's points, I'm just asking that we refine the presentation to be less adversarial.


Tea partier's identify with Tea Partiers, and for good reason. Why can't the rest of us commentate on general political movement?

So you are saying tea party types will be alienated. Why? Because they are unable to reasonably respond to a well thought out - fact laden argument? Or is it because they experience cognative dissonance between wanting to belong to the Tea party movement and seeing how hypocritical the whole movement is?

You seem to be saying, please tone down the passionate and robust discussion because the truth hurts.

While their allegiance with the tea party isn't in dispute, this argument would be more effective if you pin it on the individuals, not the party. Each of the candidates is up for their respective race individually, not collectively. When it's labeled "tea party blah blah" you immediately alienate anyone that identifies with the tea party and condemn it to support all candidates in a reactive fashion. I propose we tone down the rhetoric and call these folks out directly as individuals for their lack of constitutional understanding.

That said, I agree with Cenk's points, I'm just asking that we refine the presentation to be less adversarial.