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Delaware State Trooper Pulls Gun on Black Man For Speeding

newtboy says...

Corporal O’Neil of Troop 7 in Lewes, Del., reportedly did not request license or registration, never said why he was pulling him over until long after they were at the station, and repeatedly berated "you people" on the way to the station, telling Buckly "you're a piece of shit...go ahead and try the race card"
Buckley was not allowed to file an official complaint when he was released, in violation of more laws.

This is why police get shot in the face during traffic stops, and why some of them deserve it. There was zero reason to have him get out of the car, or to pull a deadly weapon.
I had the same treatment except the gun was to my head, and I was thrown to the concrete and jumped on, all while complying with commands, all because a dumb cop read my license plate wrong.

Fuck the police until criminal cops like this are all in a deep dark prison with no special protection.
*promote

BLACKkKLANSMAN

bobknight33 says...

I get it its a movie. Still a stupid premise, even true, and I'm sure blinded by race, Spike Lee will over play the race card.


Keep the seeds of discontent stirring and keep being enslaved..

newtboy said:

Try reading the description before making yourself look dumb, maybe?

Inside the mind of white America

newtboy says...

When he says "most white people" don't think race is an issue, what percentage does he mean? 51%? 90%? And exactly what question did they ask? Edit:answered below
If they asked "Do you think race an issue", I might take that to mean "do you judge people based on 'race'?", which I would answer "No.".
Details matter, especially with statistics.

I find it incredible to believe even 51% of white people don't think racism still exists in America (and impossible to believe a significant percentage honestly think reverse racism is more prevalent than racism).

Funny to me how so many people can go instantly from completely ignoring any claims of racism to claiming the race card has been overplayed so badly that it no longer has meaning...as if there was ever a time they gave it honest consideration.

Colorado Traffic Stop Turns Ugly

00Scud00 says...

@artician
Yeah, I'm always amazed when someone does get arrested and films it, and when they do get their phone back the data is untouched. There are apps out there that will upload your footage to a server, so knowing that maybe the cops know that and trying to delete it would only make them look even more guilty. Or maybe they are just so arrogant that they think it won't matter anyhow.

@bobknight33
If the cop they had on the show is correct then it doesn't matter what their unstated reason was. They broke police procedure by not telling them why they were being pulled over.
I suspect they didn't say anything because they really didn't have a good reason to pull them over, and when they saw that that they were being recorded they decided it was just better to keep their mouths shut.
Anything you say can and will be used against you, funny how it works both ways.
The cop they had on the show sounded fairly reasonable right up until he blew up over the race card issue. We need to stop fooling ourselves into thinking that things like race, class, gender, or ethnicity doesn't play a role in how we see each other, only then will the race card be shuffled out of the deck permanently.

police officer body slams teen in cuffs

GenjiKilpatrick says...

Okay, so.. To start *deeep breath* ..

#1 - Conflating frequency & social norms is the first flaw in your weak sauce argument/opinion/whatever.

Norms are essentially social boundaries.
They ensure a certain level of compliance & conformity in a group.

The frequency of a behavior doesn't determine a norm.
Social acceptance does.

If informal rules are accepted & practiced by enough of the group, it's a (the) norm.

So..

#2 - Because police brutality is practiced & accepted enough.. it's the (a) norm.

A fact proven by comments like this from @lucky760..

A comment that illustrates those exact informal, unwritten rules of compliance.

Completely accepting that "well, of course cops on a powertrip clearly can't control themselves. What did you expect?".

Or comments from jerkfaces like Lantern53 (who is a cop), usually:
"Most people who get shot by the police deserved it."

Because in his child-like brain, only "bad guys get in trouble"..

So if a cop is beating you half (usually all the way) to death.
You must have done some "bad guy stuff" to start.

Which brings us to..

#3 - Your disgustingly ignorant, disingenuous denialism.

"Let's *scoff* pretend that everyday, for every brutal beating you hear about..

There's another even more violent murder..

That's ONLY 365 excessive force murders a year!

That's NOT representative of all 1 million police officers."

...@_@.. just ..@_@... Because:

A) As an "angry black man" who is distinctly enraged by police brutality..

I certainly don't need or appreciate you - a racially illiterate white male - pullin' the fuckin' race card.

"What if I made these generalizations about black people? Hmm? *pouty face* Woodn't da make you a wittle upset?"

THAT SHIT HAPPENS CONSTANTLY. Especially on the internet.

In fact, @BoneRemake has accused me of sellin' out or whatever because..

Most of my recent activity on this site has been a very pointed, belligerent direct response to the stupid shitty cuntbag comments of Videosift's resident racist jingoists.. @bobknight33 & @lantern53.

The latter of which is a police officer of 30 years.

B) Of course not EVERY SINGLE police officer or police interaction is violently excessive.

The point is - it's fucked up that videos like this appear on a regular basis. With little to no punishment for the officers involved.

Sure there are lots of good people in the world..

{Main Point} That means absolutely nothing when you're specifically illustrating & discussing the shitty, bad people in the world. {Main Point}


So yeah, i definitely don't need you and your patronizing AS FUCK white privilege apologist rhetoric to tell me..

"You know, not ALL cops are bad."

Yeah.. i know. Would you also like to tell me about how:

"Every interaction I've had with Law Enforcement has been benign and/or pleasant."

"I've never been followed around a store for fear I might steal something."

..-_-

oohlalasassoon said:

I'm not the apologist you think I am by the way.

So, let's presume your statement that this happens everyday is true. In fact, let's double it, and say for every incident you hear about, there's another that goes unnoticed, and is worse. You're saying the egregious actions of 2 officers per day, is indicative of the type of day MOST cops lead on a daily basis, i.e. : the norm?

President Obama Reads Mean Tweets

bobknight33 says...

He could start acting like a President. You think I hate him because he is 1/2 black. Who cares if he is black. Only the Left cares that he is black so they can call the race card when the right calls him out when he fucks up. He is a Failure as being president.

Januari said:

@bobknight33

I'd generally say the same about you with regard to your being human...

The difference is you could stop being an ignorant bigot... The president could literally do nothing that you or many on your 'team' wouldn't invent some excuse be 'outraged' by and criticize.

release us-a short film on police brutality by charles shaw

lantern53 says...

Where I work, accountability is something that is taken very seriously. If a citizen makes an arrest, the facts are investigated and if the departmental policy was broken, the person was reprimanded, suspended, or fired.

We had a cop who had an accident while DUI. He was suspended, busted in grade, an interlock was installed in his vehicle...it probably cost him over $5000 total.

A rookie cop we had was calling up women he met on the job and asking them out, he was shitcanned immediately.

Also, thanks for playing the race card, I knew that wouldn't take long.

Driver Beaten And Tazed As St Louis Police Shut Off Dashcam

newtboy says...

Just reporting what you said repeatedly in the recent past. The race card is appropriate to play against people who bring up race all the time as an excuse to 'fear' or 'suspect' others.
Interesting that that's the only thing you disagree with.
No sir, you are the one who lives in the fantasy world where cops are never wrong, a tiny fantasy creation of a pathetically self serving mind. The world I live in is enormous and varied.
I offered to sift 'good cop' videos for you (that aren't BS PR stunts) if you can find them, long ago. Not one have you found.

lantern53 said:

Playing the race card, again, you are truly pathetic. What a small world you live in.

Driver Beaten And Tazed As St Louis Police Shut Off Dashcam

▶ Attorney shuts down police stop of black handyman

newtboy says...

Yes, I would make a bad cop. I am NOT the kind of person that enjoys forcefully telling others how to be, how to act, where they can be, nor am I the one to put others in jail for 'no victim' crimes or just for non-compliance with my wishes. I'm CERTANLY not the kind of person that supports people 'on my team' that are disgusting racist criminals...but you are.
Not an assumption, you said it clearly. YOU said he could have gone from one neighborhood to another in 15+min, so it's reasonable to 'detain' him. That MUST mean it's reasonable to detain ANY black man within a 15 minute radius (by car, no one told them he didn't have a car). That's just stupidly insane...it makes ALL black men in a 30 mile diameter 'suspects'. (which seems to be how you see them).
No, YOU throw the race card out every time your ass itches, and I think you must have a rash because it's constant! I throw it right back at you, and you cry foul.
YOU care what color people are, you've made that QUITE clear.

EDIT: It's hilarious that you follow your complaint about someone 'throwing out the race(ism) card" and follow instantly with something racist. You could just as easily say that calls for criminal investigation feature men, the young, the poor, or (my favorite) the religious (check your statistics, nearly 100% of cons consider themselves 'religious', so the next time you have a call, just go to the nearest church and start 'investigating' whomever you find there).

Yes, clearly 'young African Americans' are most often the 'suspects', that does not mean they are most often the perps however.
If you get a call to look for a male black, about a 'crime' that may have happened some time ago, it's rather pointless period. There's no way in hell you could find the right person with that description unless there's still one male black AT THE SCENE of the crime you are investigating, and even then that person could easily be a witness. "male black" is not enough description to make it OK for cops to accost citizens. PERIOD. Just as "male white" would not be.
I would say YOU seem far more clueless than I. You have a myopic viewpoint where cops are ALWAYS in the right, citizens are ALWAYS in the wrong, and black people are ALWAYS suspect and dangerous.
Try to be a little logical at all, and less ridiculous please.

lantern53 said:

Wow, you would make the worst cop imaginable.

You're all tied up in political correctness.

But...not everyone is cut out for the job.

"Your assessment and theory seems to be it would be proper to stop, search, and question all of them, and let the court figure out which one (if any) is the criminal. You wouldn't think the same if the skin color was 'white'...would you?"

Another childish assumption, and...
Do you throw out the race card every time your ass itches?

Cops don't care what color you are. But if you listen to any (moderate size town) police band, you'll find that the majority of calls for criminal investigation feature young male african-americans.

So if you get a call to look for a male black, it's rather pointless, don't you think, to stop any Howdy-doodie looking cracker ass white boy?

But you sit in your little cubicle, protected by people who would risk their life to protect yours, and view your little videos and you're totally clueless.

Try to be a little more logical and a little less emotional.

▶ Attorney shuts down police stop of black handyman

lantern53 says...

Wow, you would make the worst cop imaginable.

You're all tied up in political correctness.

But...not everyone is cut out for the job.

"Your assessment and theory seems to be it would be proper to stop, search, and question all of them, and let the court figure out which one (if any) is the criminal. You wouldn't think the same if the skin color was 'white'...would you?"

Another childish assumption, and...
Do you throw out the race card every time your ass itches?

Cops don't care what color you are. But if you listen to any (moderate size town) police band, you'll find that the majority of calls for criminal investigation feature young male african-americans.

So if you get a call to look for a male black, it's rather pointless, don't you think, to stop any Howdy-doodie looking cracker ass white boy?

But you sit in your little cubicle, protected by people who would risk their life to protect yours, and view your little videos and you're totally clueless.

Try to be a little more logical and a little less emotional.

Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Drones

lantern53 says...

Foreign policy is about doing things favorable to your side. Since the west represents freedom, and we do things responsibly, we keep doing them.

You can't be an isolationist in this world.

You also can't equate their civilization with ours. Ours is better. I know that makes liberals nuts to say, but even Bill Maher is saying it now.

I don't support indiscriminate drone strikes. or anything else indiscriminate, but some collateral damage is going to happen. You can't prevent it. You have to be realistic about it.

Also, I can't believe that Chaos (appropo appellation there) has to play the race card. Most of our nukes used to be aimed at Russians, who are white, last time I checked.

Also, I don't believe the American people support drone strikes just because we get to kill 'brown' people. Ridiculous.

Jon Stewart Goes After Fox in Ferguson Monologue

VoodooV says...

Do you hear yourself? " If I disagree with something a BLACK person does, how come I'm a racist"

Maybe because you keep referring to them as black as a negative.

Maybe they're just people and not black people. You say we're playing the race card, but we're not the one making sweeping generalizations about how the looters were young black males, you did that.

Not to mention the desperate need by you to conflate the shooting and the looting as a single event. The shooting and the looting are two separate events, sure one is happening because of the other but they are still separate events. The inference by the racists is that apparently only black people loot and never other people and we know this to not be true.

You're picking and choosing which evidence you believe to be reliable and if what you claim is true and you're a cop so you're anything but unbiased. Hell even Bob of all people admitted that not all the facts are in and that some of the evidence doesn't look favorable for the shooter. If even Bob can admit it, why can't you? Because you're biased that's why. It's standard "I want it to be true, therefore it is true" mentality.

All the "leftists" (another term used with negative connotations) are saying is that racism exists and is still alive and well. Even if this shooting turns out to not be racially motivated. It still highlights the underlying problem. People don't trust cops and as you are so fond of saying, that trust and respect has to be earned, not mandated. I know you wouldn't begrudge the population taking possibly violent measures against an organization that is perceived to be tyrannical, now would you. Because otherwise you'd be a hypocrite and we wouldn't want that now would we.

But hey, don't take my word for it, just keep hurling insults and sweeping generalizations when people don't agree with you and you get mad and go into sour grapes mode and change your argument and use other distractions. It's worked out for you so well so far.

Jon Stewart Goes After Fox in Ferguson Monologue

lantern53 says...

You guys playing the race card again. If I disagree with something a black person does, I'm a racist. Wow, that's getting old.

The witnesses I have heard said the decedent charged the cop. It only takes about 2 seconds to fire 6 shots.

The decedent demonstrated he was willing to take the cop's gun, and that is something a cop can't tolerate.

A cop has a job to do, so he can't just sit back and do nothing, because the next cop to come along has the same job to do, and it's not right to lay it off on the next guy. That's called responsibility.

Of course, you progressives automatically think cops are wrong. Funny, since cops are members of 'the system', the gov't.

But I understand how easy it is to just monday morning quarterback and say 'the cop should have done this, he should have done that'.

blah blah blah

Before President Obama, there was Sheriff Bart

chingalera says...

What?? The most egregious violators of reason in the Videosift's editorializing goon-squad has historically played the flaccid race card. 'Cry racism' is the calling-card of the chronic sophist and the knee-jerk siren's-song of the deliberately obtuse....

lantern53 said:

gee, even videosift is playing the race card nowadays



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