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Vegan accidentally eats cheese

noims says...

Sorry, but I feel bad for the guy.

Yes, he's way too smug about the whole thing, and the fact that he's vlogging makes it that much harder to sympathise, but if he's got an ethical objection to animal products I'm not surprised he's upset. If nothing else I'd say he feels sick to the stomach over it... imagine having a nice pork fillet only to find it's human meat.

I'm a solid carnivore myself, and a fan of People tor Eating Tasty Animals, but I still have to respect other people's choices. At least now he'll learn to ask more and more about the ingredients of what he eats.

Now back to my 'pork' stew.

Long egg production

Lions Licking Water From A Tent Screen Inches Away

If Meat Eaters Acted Like Vegans

Mordhaus says...

@ahimsa, @transmorpher

You might as well cry out against nature, because if you think humans are barbarous and cruel, nature owns us. Watch a video of a pack of lions eating a wildebeest alive sometime. I don't think they anesthetize it, pretty sure the animal thinks being eaten alive is torture, and I think it qualifies as murderous. This goes on daily, right this minute in fact, and the reason it happens is because there is a portion of the lion's instinct that is designed to like meat.

Chimpanzees will eat meat, sometimes going out of their way to find it and pull it apart alive. They don't need to biologically, but they are coded to.

Vegans avoid meat because humans have managed to reach a point of civilized society which allows us to have lofty moral opinions. I guarantee you however, that if society broke down and you couldn't get your hands on processed food with that special hint of paprika, you would have your hands out for a venison steak or pork hindquarters.

Therein lies the hypocrisy that annoys most of the non-vegans, you guys DO have this faint whiff of "I am superior to you because I don't participate in murder" when the fact is that you would eat meat if you had to. You don't see humor in being lightly made fun of, because it punctures your balloon of superiority.

In any case, the point of this entire thing is that if you choose to be vegan, awesome! Laugh a little if people poke fun at you and don't always try to sound like a stuck up ass if they don't agree with your choices. I think you'll find that more people will quit harboring dislike of you. Quit treating your personal dietary choice as a religion and don't try to convert people to it. If they see you living your life as a vegan and ask about it, then you explain it to them. Don't huff and puff while people eat meat around you and act like it is your job to convert them to the 'true way'. Life will be a lot simpler for you!

Is Spontaneous Combustion Real?

newtboy says...

I know I've seen this done by someone else where it was done slightly differently with better, more thorough cremation. I think they put the pig in the chair and let it smolder naturally, with the fat melting, wicking into the cloth, and feeding the fire for hours like an oil lamp. This video really looked like the cloth just burned and scorched the pig, but not really '(non)spontaneous pork combustion'.

Pig vs Cookie

transmorpher says...

I'll disagree that's it's perfectly fine food. Bacon is a type 1 carcinogen. Which means there is no doubt that it causes cancer. Non processed pork, is a type 2 carcinogen, which means it causes cancer, but they need more data to confirm it.
The risks aren't quite as high as with cigarettes but it's an extra set of dice I'm not going to roll. That's information from the W.H.O.

I'm not sure if this method would work in Hawaii, but they've had a lot of success in Europe with stray animals by using a catch a release program http://carocat.eu/the-catch-neuter-and-release-approach/. It's a little slower, but not that much since cats and dogs have a pretty short life-cycle when they are stray. I think you could make a few alterations and, the invasive boars instead of running away from hunters, would begin to approach them instead, and you could register, and neuter them.

Damn you blew my cover. I'm am indeed a pig, hence my bias in this thread. Here's a picture of me and my boat driver in the bahamas http://www.tecnologia-ambiente.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/maiale-isola.jpeg

newtboy said:

Well, if you think wasting perfectly fine meat/food is OK because you don't want to get in the habit of killing your food, yes, our definitions vary. To me, once it's dead anyway, wasting it is definitely bad for no reason, and using it is good.
Also...bacon! If that's not good to you, you're not a real human being, and I accuse you of being a pig that has learned to type.

Pig vs Cookie

newtboy says...

You're going to wish you hadn't said that....I just thought of an actual good reason.
In Hawaii, invasive boar (pigs) are destroying the fragile native eco system. The only solution anyone has put forth is kill them. This means a large amount of pork exists that is killed either way...is not wasting that meat not a good reason to eat it?
Send the URL of the bloody steak video. ;-)

transmorpher said:

Like I said. No GOOD reasons to eat animals
Hedonism doesn't usually count as a good reason.

I'll eat a bloody raw steak on youtube if you can think of a good reason

Free education and the current state of America (Worldaffairs Talk Post)

Korean Girls Try American BBQ For the First Time

newtboy says...

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Having sauce on it doesn't make it not BBQ, but ONLY having sauce on it doesn't make baked meat BBQ either. If it's slow smoked with a spicy rub, but not smoked to dry jerky, I say that qualifies as BBQ.
Sour pulled pork? Something's not right. Mine is almost too sweet, but I use a brown sugar and pepper based rub.
They all need to be served with large-cut sweet onion. That's the proper side for all BBQ in my eyes....but I was raised in Texas, so I have a very particular idea of what makes BBQ good.

AeroMechanical said:

A lot of folks wouldn't consider that proper BBQ. I mean, it's got sauce on it for god's sake.

tofucken-the vegan response to turducken

newtboy says...

It's not inhumane ('humane' being another oxymoron, because it's meaning, and acting like a normal human, are opposites) because 1)they have a life at all, which they would not if not given the opportunity by my family 2) they have a place to live that life, which they would not if not given the use of the land and 3) nature also creates barriers to movement, so it's not unnatural for an animal to live it's entire lifespan in one place...perhaps for cattle, but not the rest. Farm animals are not humans, and those that have an aversion to being stationary have no place on a farm. You could say that not being nomadic is 'inhumane', as our natural state is not sedentary, but few would argue it's 'cruel'.
'Animals' are not humans, so are not slaves. That idea makes you sound ridiculous. See the South Park episode for a good example.
Stopping suffering is not within our scope.
There are many reasons why stopping meat eating is not reasonable, but the one you should be the most interested in is, if humans didn't eat cattle, they might be extinct. The same goes for many animals we eat, and if we didn't eat things like pork, the ecological disaster feral pigs create would be almost as bad as what humans do.
It would be easier and cheaper to change the conditions in the slums of India and elsewhere than it would be to eradicate the meat production (edit:and consumption) of the entire planet. What do the people do now that no longer have jobs? What do you do with all the animals that no longer have a 'use' and don't own property to move onto? How do you control their numbers so they don't destroy what's left of the planet?
Technically, yes, all humans are animals. Mentally handicapped humans are not TREATED 'like animals', by which you MEAN treated poorly and without thought for their comfort and well being, which in fact is NOT how most animals are treated in our first world society, no matter how much you think so. Factory farms are a different matter.
When dolphins take control, they can treat mentally handicapped dolphins better than average humans. It's not arbitrary to treat your own species as the most important, it's an evolutionary trait almost all species likely possess.
No, I can't eat an entire vegan diet. I've tried many vegan foods, and found them ALL inedible, some made me sick.

You made blanket statements about how ALL animals are treated, and how ALL meat is produced and then defended that blanket statement. I'm glad you now admit your mistake, I hope you can see it through and stop blanket blaming ALL meat eaters.

What other people eat is farther outside your influence than how they treat their children.

Without the calorie dense food that is 'meat', we would still be nomadic gatherers, if we could exist at all. Eating meat is one of the things that gave us the energy to evolve those 'higher brains' that can choose our actions and determine what's 'rational'.
You will never see a vegan Olympic athlete. (Edit: well, maybe in Olympic curling...)

Daesh has brought about change...a change that THEY see as positive. That's not a good argument.

Yes, you are a monster for supporting such unabashed, unproductive carnivores ;-)...and I would hazard a guess that you don't feed them only free range, gmo free turkey carcasses, so you sound worse than me, the unashamed meat eater that pays the extra money for proper animal treatment....not just for them but because it's healthier meat too.

I did my part for the animals and the planet by not having children. ;-) Too bad I'm such a minority that it won't make a whit of difference.

eoe said:

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no respite-ISIS recruitment video-english version

newtboy says...

Those daeshbags really know how to video edit. Too bad they don't know how to co-exist with the other 7.3 billion of us and we'll have to evaporate them.

I can't understand why we don't take a page from the fake book of Jack Black Pershing, and bury enemy combatants with pig carcasses, or better yet, the disgusting leftovers from pig carcasses, and put pigs blood in and on all their bullets. Taint the faithful so they don't 'go to heaven', and 50-75% will run away tomorrow. Only those fighting for something other than religion will be left, and they'll have lost their best recruitment method.

If we can't bring ourselves to do that, perhaps we can move to feeding all Daesh POW's only pork. Let them starve themselves to death if they don't want it. No problem for me at all.

Alton Brown reviews kitchen gadgets

Mookal jokingly says...

Not surprised you had some soreness pulling your pork with a fork. Sounds like when I choked my chicken with twine.

(Goes back to grade school)

newtboy said:

Awesome.
I have had the same soreness issue after a session of pulling my pork with a fork, but I hadn't discovered that ninja claws could simplify the job.

...And as for Rollie, who knew there was a market for limp egg breakfast dildos?

Alton Brown reviews kitchen gadgets

Stormsinger says...

My wife and I -love- pulled pork, so I make it fairly often. I rate the claws just below my Aeropress (bought on Dag's recommendation, with never a regret), for value. The only reason they're below is that I use them once a month, instead of several times a day.

May be the best $9 I ever spent.

newtboy said:

Awesome.
I have had the same soreness issue after a session of pulling my pork with a fork, but I hadn't discovered that ninja claws could simplify the job.

...And as for Rollie, who knew there was a market for limp egg breakfast dildos?

Alton Brown reviews kitchen gadgets

newtboy jokingly says...

Awesome.
I have had the same soreness issue after a session of pulling my pork with a fork, but I hadn't discovered that ninja claws could simplify the job.

...And as for Rollie, who knew there was a market for limp egg breakfast dildos?

Stormsinger said:

I flat out disagree with him on the meat shredders. I made my pulled pork with a fork for at least two years before I stumbled over the claws. And every single time, it took about 30 minutes to do 5 pounds, and I suffered from the shredding equivalent of writer's cramp. With the claws, that same five pounds takes around 7-8 pain-free minutes. They're a bargain.

Alton Brown reviews kitchen gadgets

Stormsinger says...

I flat out disagree with him on the meat shredders. I made my pulled pork with a fork for at least two years before I stumbled over the claws. And every single time, it took about 30 minutes to do 5 pounds, and I suffered from the shredding equivalent of writer's cramp. With the claws, that same five pounds takes around 7-8 pain-free minutes. They're a bargain.



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