I do not share your opinion. Provided Bob isn't in-fact a Russian troll, he's still an American.

Pop quiz, which is the best political party?
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Trick question, the best party in America is America.

“We’re so glad to see so many of you lovely people here tonight. And we would especially like to welcome all the representatives of Illinois’s law enforcement community that have chosen to join us here in the Palace Hotel Ballroom at this time. We certainly hope you all enjoy the show. And remember, people, that no matter who you are and what you do to live, thrive and survive, there’re still some things that makes us all the same. You. Me. Them. Everybody. Everybody.”






That said,

They'll get their own misery when they feel the policy they helped create begin to affect them. Trust me, it doesn't need help. My dad is scrambling trying to save for his retirement at 65 and scoffs at the idea of the stimulus checks he got, refuses to cash the "biden bucks"

Let me tell you. Jeff Bezos? Mark Zuckerburg? They don't give a shit about moral quandaries when offered free money, they take it, happily.
If you're pulling down millions every year and cook the books a bit, that's "smart." Walk in to a social security office with a baby on your arm a day early, that's "criminal," (almost like stealing).

Do that enough + a bunch of VERY-MUCH-NOT billionaires voting for it and u have the republican party.


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I also don't care for the malformed logic they practice. Another republican acquaintance of mine called me a "segregationist" because I said trans-athletes should be able to play on the team of their self identified sex.

Whether you agree with me on that or not, me saying that they SHOULD play on an integrated team does NOT make me a segregationist, unless you completely redefine the word.

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Finally, I do agree there is some room for some anger. I don't like it when the GOP or their sycophants go on a "Let's take rights away from someone today, AS A TEAM!"

When the message is the OPPOSITE of "There are still some things that make us all the same," it's infuriating. Because if it can happen to them, it can happen to you.

Take what's happening with their complaints of "cancel culture"
Coca Cola, Disney, etc etc private companies and bakeries

The new and improved supreme court helped establish that private businesses can discriminate against you based on a genuine philosophical or religious belief. Bakery vs the gay couple "TAKE THAT, GAYS!!!"

They didn't realize that that meant ALL businesses could now do that. But again, if it happens to them, it can happen to you.

Bob here is like one of the fans throwing garbage on the field when Jackie Robinson gets up to bat. "WHY DON'T YOU JUST GET YOUR OWN NEGRO -ERR TRANS LEAGUE?"


He truly doesn't know he's being manipulated.



p.s. https://www.npr.org/2018/06/04/605003519/supreme-court-decides-in-favor-of-baker-over-same-sex-couple-in-cake-shop-case

Now, it's easy to point out "LOOK!!! no no no it's not!!! see! it says right here, they CANT just do it if you're not this specific baker." That's not stopping this guy from 6 days ago

https://w ww.whas11.co (link too long) m/article/news/investigations/focus/radcliff-kentucky-tax-preparer-refusing-business-to-lgbtq-couples/417-c2575ded-feed-45d8-b6f7-49016ec9eba3

made a tiny^ https://tinyurl.com/myd5ubrc

Pop quiz, which reaction proves maturity?

ok.
i am reading your response.
and trying to follow your logic..
it is..confusing.
i do not mean that in a critical way.it literally is confusing.

so let me understand this.
you think that because people pointing out the hypocrisy on american foreign policy somehow translates to a moral relativism in regards to assad?
that one is more evil than the other?
and to point to one means to ignore the other?

ok.
which one is MORE evil:
1.the assad regime which has been brutal on its own citizens.beheadings,executions in the street.the people are in a constant state of fear.
this is a common tactic for brutal dictators.fear and intimidation and when then start getting out of control? killings and maimings.of the public kind.
assad has been on the human rights watch for decades.
he is a monster.
or.
2.america and britain have been sending weapons and training a weak rebel force (for the past few years btw).after the outbreak of violence of the arab spring and assads decending hammer of escalating violence the rebels find their ranks being filled by alqeada,muslim brotherhood and other radical muslim factions.
which has the culminative effect of not only creating the civil war but prolonging it.
death tolls of innocents rising.
displaced syrians in the millions.

which of these two are "more" evil?
both caused death.
both caused suffering.
or do you think training and arming rebel factions which only serves to prolong the conflict less evil?

while evil is an arbitrary and subjective word the answer is BOTH are evil.
on a basic and human level BOTH bear responsibility.

let us continue.

now america has had a non-interventionism policy so far.just supplying training and weapons and prolonging the civil war and henceforth:the violence,death,maiming and suffering.

then two things quietly happened.
syria russia and china (iran as well) began talks to drop the petrodollar AND assad refusing a natural gas pipeline through syria (probably in order to not piss off russia).

when you realize that americas currency is almost solely propped up by the petrodollar,the current white house rhetoric starts to make more sense.

this is why evidence on who is responsible for the chemical attacks is important because the united states government used THAT as its reason for NOT entering the conflict (even though it already was involved,but not directly).the united states didnt want to get directly involved.
until the pipeline and petrodollar talks started to surface.

and then as if by magic.
a chemical attack is executed.
now assads army was winning,on all fronts.
why would he risk international intervention if he was winning?
now i am not saying that dictators and tyrants dont do dumb things,but that is dumb on an epic level.
doesnt make sense.
doesnt add up.

so the whole drumbeats for war now.
which were non-existent a month ago...
are all about "humanitarian" and "human rights" and a new "axis of evil".

bullshit.plain and simple.

this is about oil.
about the petrodollar.
this is about big business.

bryzenscki called this 20 yrs ago in his book "the grand chessboard"

and that is my counter argument.
and by your last post on my page i think you agree in some fashion.

now,
let us discuss your "final solution".
oh my friend.you accused so many of being naive.
reading your conclusion i can only shake my head.
not that i dont appreciate your time or that i dont see maybe why you feel that way.
i just dont think you grasp the enormity of it and have listened to one too many of the uber-rights "paper tiger" argument.

if we choose the path you think is the best to put assad on his heels.
america launches a limited strike on assad forces.
and lets say those strategic targets are 100% incapacitated (unlikely,but this is hypothetical).
what then?
have you considered what the reaction of russia,china,iran,saudi arabia, might be?
because according to international LAW,without a united nations concensus.russia and china AND iran would have the right to step in,set up shop and tell you to go fuck yourself.they would dare you to cross that line.
and what then?
do you cross it? and under what grounds?
you have (and when i say YOU i mean america) already disregarded every single policy put forth in regards to international law.the irony is the you (america) were vital in the creation of those very laws.(we rocked that WW2 shit son).

so pop quiz jack.what do you do?
do you really think you can ignore russia and china?ignore the international community?
do you really think the american government gives two shits about people dying in another country?
(checks long list of historical precedent)
not..one..bit.

here are the simple facts.
YOU are a compassionate human being who is outraged over the suffering and execution of innocent people.
YOU.
and i and pretty much everybody with a soul and a heart.
but YOUR argument is coming from that outrage.and man do i wish i was your age again.
god i admire you for this alone.
but the simple,hard and ugly fact is:
this country is about its own business of empire.
they could not give a fuck who is dying or being oppressed,tortured or enslaved.
i will be happy to provide the links but please dont ask...i dont wish to see your heart break anymore than it already has.
you and i live under the banner of an empire.this is fact.
this empire only cares about its own interests.

so let us talk about the very thing that is the emotional heart of the matter shall we?
the syrian people.
how do we alleviate their suffering?
how do we quell the tidal wave of dying?

a limited strike on strategic targets would help the innocents how exactly?
by bombing them?this is your logic?
or is "collateral damage" acceptable? and if so..how much?
do you realize that there are no actual 'strategic targets".assads troops are embedded just as much as the rebels are.
so..where do you hit for maximum effect?
and how many innocent deaths are acceptable?
and if the goal is to weaken assads forces,to level the playing field,wouldnt this translate to an even MORE prolonged conflict?
and wouldnt that equal even MORE innocent people dying?

this scenario is WITHOUT russia,china or iran intervening!

you are killing more and more people that i thought you wanted to save!
what are you doing man? are you crazy!

so i ask you.
what are your goals?
is it revenge?
is it regime change?
do you wish to punish assad?

then assasination is your only true option that will get the results you want and save innocent lives.

in my opinion anyways.

this is why i choose the non-intervention or the negotiation route.
yes..there will still be violence but only to a point.
when negotiations begin there is always a cease fire.
in that single move we stopped the violence.
this will also have the effect of bringing other international players to the table and much needed food,supplies and medical for the syrian people.

all kinds of goodies for the syrian people who are in such desperate need of help.
wanna go with me? ill volunteer with ya!

so which path is better for the syrian people?
a limited strike which at the very least will prolong this vicious civil war.
or negotiations which will bring a cease fire,food,water,medical help,blankets,clothes and smiles and hugs for everyone!

are ya starting to get the picture?

i have lived on three continents.
met and lived with so many interesting and amazing people.
learned about so much and was graced and touched in ways that are still incredible for me to explain.
and you have got to be the most stubborn mule i have ever met...ever.

but kid.you got some serious heart.
so you stay awesome.
namaste.

*edit-it appears assad may be the culprit.syria just accepted russias offer to impound the chemical weapons.so we know they have them.lets see what the US does.
i still think you are going to get your wish for military action.so dont be getting all depressed on me now.

I love it... people mocking it for american crap culture. Pop quiz, you are 9 years old, it is 1986, can you name ONE SONG that you know was actually produced outside of the US? Being a kid in that era, you knew nothing of what happened outside out boarders.. there was no internet and the only foreign videos block buster had was horrible dubs released in the US.

And I had all these tapes, i can believe this many awesome songs were all from 1986 though. Pretty amazing year.

Pop quiz, hotshot. You're leading the Indy 500 at the 499.8 mile mark, you come up behind a back-marker on the final turn....What do you do? What do you do?

I make you read every article in that magazine, including Norman Mailer's latest claptrap about his waning libido.

Pop quiz hotshots - is my gaydar acting up, or does this guy play for the other team?

Um ... so, your opinion is that the people involved here consented? Are you of the opinion that any sex which occurs over the age of consent is consensual? Furthermore, are suggesting that all the victims are over the age of 12 (or 13, or 14)?

And, even further to the point, are you suggesting the only guideline for behaviour is the law? Even if it was legal to rape children, that would not excuse the priests from doing it and in no time or era has the catholic church condoned sexual activity outside of marriage, let alone between an adult and a child, let alone in the same sex (which seems to be the majority of the abuse for one reason or another). Your different places & values is BS; it has always been taboo in the church from day one (hence the admonition in AD60 mentioned in the video).

You're probably just trolling, but this sort of BS needs to be called out just the same.

>> ^thumpa28:

POP QUIZ ya dopes, what year was the age of consent introduced? What is it currently in Spain, Austria AND the Vatican? (you only have to choose between 12,13 and 14) Different places, different social values and believe it or not, different times.

LOL ill agree to the church going if we can also round up dumb arse people who fall for this glossy shit. POP QUIZ ya dopes, what year was the age of consent introduced? What is it currently in Spain, Austria AND the Vatican? (you only have to choose between 12,13 and 14) Different places, different social values and believe it or not, different times. Church is guilty of loads of shit but for fucks sake tie more reason to your hate than a fkin bandwagon. Whats next - all italians are gay because of roman orgies?

Pop quiz hot shots, which continent does CM Burns claim is the one he was born on?

>> ^enoch:
In reply to this comment by longde:
Pop Quiz: Do companies have power over my life?
1 - Do you work for a company? Yes/ No
2 - Do you consume goods and services from any company? Yes/No
2a - If yes to 2, do you carry life, health, and auto insurance from any company? Yes/No
3 - Do you consume content (i.e., music, books, video, games, etc) from any company? Yes/No
3a - In particular, did you buy 'Atlas Shrugged' from a company?
4 - Are you a citizen of a country where companies via lobbyists have more influence than you do? Yes/No
4a - In particular, are you a citizen of a country where companies recently convinced the government to give them billions of your tax money? Yes/No
4b - In particular, have you ever lived in a state/city where a company convinced the local government to build a stadium at your (taxpayer) expense, with no promise of a return? Yes/No
5 - Have you ever smelled air pollution, heard sound pollution, seen an eyesore manufactured or produced from a product manufactured from any company? Yes/No
5a - Was this a pleasant experience? Yes/No
6 - Have you or a relative ever been raped by employees of a company, then kept in confinement by the goons of the company, and then prevented to take legal recourse by the lawyers of the company? Yes/No
6a - If so, did US senators, paid and influenced by the lobbyists of the company, vote against your right to take legal recourse? Yes/No

Just off the top of my head.

i want to have your babies


me tooooooo!!!!!!

Pop Quiz: Do companies have power over my life?

For my response - I quote the smartest person in the room. Myself!

I’m not talking about the obvious effect that simply purchasing ANY good or service can have on a person’s life. Obviously when I buy food, clothes, and other things those purchase ‘effect my life’. And naturally since ‘a company’ produced those goods the company ‘effects’ me second-hand by supplying them. But I am discussing things beyond the simplistic level of “companies manufacture objects which exist and that I can see, feel, touch, and interact with.”

The context of the video (and thence, this thread) is about companies who impact people's lives by 'forcing' misery on them. You guys are trying to expand the context to include interaction with companies, thier products, their mere presence, or anything/everything even vaguely related to being on the same planet as a company. Stay within the confines of the subject.

Red lining

Eeeeeeh... Well redlining refers to a specific practice so I'll correct my sloppy usage of the term. I'm referring to banks legitimately denying loans to people who did not qualify and then getting accused of being racists, economic prejudice, age prejudice, and so on.

In reply to this comment by longde:
Pop Quiz: Do companies have power over my life?

1 - Do you work for a company? Yes/ No

2 - Do you consume goods and services from any company? Yes/No

2a - If yes to 2, do you carry life, health, and auto insurance from any company? Yes/No

3 - Do you consume content (i.e., music, books, video, games, etc) from any company? Yes/No

3a - In particular, did you buy 'Atlas Shrugged' from a company?

4 - Are you a citizen of a country where companies via lobbyists have more influence than you do? Yes/No

4a - In particular, are you a citizen of a country where companies recently convinced the government to give them billions of your tax money? Yes/No

4b - In particular, have you ever lived in a state/city where a company convinced the local government to build a stadium at your (taxpayer) expense, with no promise of a return? Yes/No

5 - Have you ever smelled air pollution, heard sound pollution, seen an eyesore manufactured or produced from a product manufactured from any company? Yes/No

5a - Was this a pleasant experience? Yes/No

6 - Have you or a relative ever been raped by employees of a company, then kept in confinement by the goons of the company, and then prevented to take legal recourse by the lawyers of the company? Yes/No

6a - If so, did US senators, paid and influenced by the lobbyists of the company, vote against your right to take legal recourse? Yes/No



Just off the top of my head.


i want to have your babies

Pop Quiz: Do companies have power over my life?

1 - Do you work for a company? Yes/ No

2 - Do you consume goods and services from any company? Yes/No

2a - If yes to 2, do you carry life, health, and auto insurance from any company? Yes/No

3 - Do you consume content (i.e., music, books, video, games, etc) from any company? Yes/No

3a - In particular, did you buy 'Atlas Shrugged' from a company?

4 - Are you a citizen of a country where companies via lobbyists have more influence than you do? Yes/No

4a - In particular, are you a citizen of a country where companies recently convinced the government to give them billions of your tax money? Yes/No

4b - In particular, have you ever lived in a state/city where a company convinced the local government to build a stadium at your (taxpayer) expense, with no promise of a return? Yes/No

5 - Have you ever smelled air pollution, heard sound pollution, seen an eyesore manufactured or produced from a product manufactured from any company? Yes/No

5a - Was this a pleasant experience? Yes/No

6 - Have you or a relative ever been raped by employees of a company, then kept in confinement by the goons of the company, and then prevented to take legal recourse by the lawyers of the company? Yes/No

6a - If so, did US senators, paid and influenced by the lobbyists of the company, vote against your right to take legal recourse? Yes/No



Just off the top of my head.

Pop quiz! The meteor burned green because it contained...

a) iron
b) copper
c) god's wrath
d) the luck o' the Irish

"we are recruiting for jesus"
"sending the hounds of heaven"
"this is our JOB,its what we DO"
and then?...jesus wept.
pop quiz kids!
which religious,canonized text, has the MOST gospels of jesus???
anyone..anyone...?
well,ill tell ya...
the answer is..................the Q'uran.
now THAT little fact is gonna make for some uncomfortable dinner conversation
when these evangelicals start going door to door in taliban country.
boy o boy would i like to be privy to that dinner.