"Poisonous tone and attitude." POISONOUS TONE AND ATTITUDE???!!!???

So, would you like to expand on that phrase, @vil? And perhaps read crushbug's comment above?

Because here is what I hear -- not that you are saying this, but it is what I hear:

Angry women are off-putting. Women with sarcastic voices are off-putting. Women who dare to be anything but sweet and compliant are off-putting.

Men are not "policed" this way. They are allowed a wide range of attitudes in the way they present information. Of course, they CAN be "poisonous" -- but I guarantee you no man's delivery this mild would be labelled "poisonous."

There is a "thing" called "vocal fry" that some women (and gay men) have that pitches their voices high (to be simplistic in its description.) There has been reams written about it. I assumed that most of the comments here were related to vocal fry.

Your comment here is not about vocal fry. Or if it is, wow. What words to use to describe it. Ouch.

So can you use different words to explain what you mean? If I am not understanding you?

As for "word counts not mattering" -- that is categorically not true.

I have been talking about this for forty years and have thought about it deeply, in a logical manner, trying to find the vocabulary to discuss it. I think I have succeeded, and it applies to black people, especially black men, as well as women, both black and white. Here it comes.

Words have values. Words with similar values are interchangeable with gender usage. Words that don't have similar values are sexist and racist. (Even if women do it to themselves, they are indeed engaging in internalized sexism.) If you can take a sentence with the word "girl" being used, and change the gender to male, would you ever -- in that specific situation -- use the word "boy"? If you would, go for it.

And here is where the "word count" matters. Because there are more women than there are men, and yet the word count proves that in the same situation, the word girl is used a lot more. Even if you take out the gymnasts, who are indeed less than 19.

I never say "never use the word girl." Because sometimes, in the same situation, you would indeed use the word "boy."

Let me give you an example.

Old Boys Network. Very powerful men, on the same social and power level, call themselves "boys." Leads to Boys Night Out -- same social and power level.

So can you say Girls Night Out without it being an infantilzation? Absolutely.

Can black people call themselves the n-word? Sure. Same social and power levels. A white person calling a black person the n-word? Nope, nope, nope, nope. Different social and power levels.

This will only make sense to older people, since it doesn't happen as much as it used to. Calling a black man "boy." A grown man. With a job and a family and dignity. Can a white person employing a black man call him "boy"? No. No they cannot.

When is a man over the age of 20 or so called a boy? Very very rarely. Young man, sure. But rarely "boy."

Yet when it comes to women, they are called girls until they die. And they do it to themselves, to make themselves smaller and less threatening.

So. Poisonous. Tell me what you meant, please? Keeping in mind the idea that "threatening" women need to stay in their place?

Ouch, looks like wind turbines are only good for your carbon footprint when they're not on fire.

The real question, if this is so damming for Hillary, is when to leak them?

If now she has time to recover.
If 30 days before election then ouch.

The ones he leaked we not trash talk. It showed collusion at the DNC to not only hinder Bernie in Hillary's favor but also how the media is also politically invested with Hillary.


Why would the DNC do this on their own? Hillary and DWS have to have conspired to win the nomination. Will the leaks will indicate this? Guess we will have to wait.

Bernie ran a honest campaign and Hillary had to cheat.

Apparently not all the emails were leaked, but will be at some point in time. OUCH !

Ouch. Let me know when the real video is up. That was painful.

"Some candidates aren't polling high enough to qualify for their own joke"

ouch.... someone get Kasich to a burn ward

btw, here's the video with the graphics

As a Starcraft fan: Ouch, too honest!! : D

All I could think of was navigating this ... barefoot in the dark of night ... for the inevitable pee! ouch ...oww...oooh!

Ok then....all I can say is "OUCH"

Another useless law unless they catch you.
So much for street prostitutes. 15 years for a BJ. Ouch.

Guess we will have to go to the government owned Bunny Ranch in Nevada for a legal BJ and to get your butt plugged.

Ouch. Never pretend to be a local, when hanging out with a local.

22 millions views in less than 24 hours, and it doesn't catch 10 on the Sift.

Ouch.

Ouch at the end!