All that might be true if the very rich made most of their money off regular job-type income, but they don't. They make it off capital gains. Those funds are literally taxed at poverty rate. Rupert Murdoch and Mitt Romney, are the classic examples. If we take their word for it, they pay less than working class people while earning millions each year. Do you think that's right?

'Hoarding' powerpoints is not a problem that requires a solution. It's not like we have a small market for powerpoints, and we're seeing the development of a Rupert Murdoch with too much market share.

I think you've fixed a problem that doesn't exist, and in the process limited the function of newer Sifters who may have far more interest in using functions than some of us older Sifters (like me).

On an unrelated note, I don't dig the new promote system. On that issue, I like your old stuff better than your new stuff.

To answer that one has to answer what's more important for Murdoch: integrity of his beliefs or money?

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

At some point - do you think Rupert Murdoch will step in?

So Murdoch is now doing Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous? The WSJ has truly come down in the world, hasn't it?

No, that was my own assessment of the movement, and it seems to have borne out. What is the OWS movement doing today beyond vandalism and petty thuggery?





Yes, there were some good points made, and a whole lot of bad ones as well. They spoke as one cacophony and it is that lack of coherency or cohesive strategy (as well as a terrible image problem) that ultimately led to their downfall. Even the founders of the movement agree:

"But even Adbusters, the 'culture-jamming' magazine that help spawn the original Wall Street occupation, says that things have changed dramatically for the movement. "Our movement is living through a painful rebirth..." began its frontpage essay this week, and then quoted a Zuccoti park regular who declared, "We are facing a nauseating poverty of ideas.”"

https://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/06/07

From crowds of 15k to 75 people, it seems to be all over but the shouting

Occupy Wall Street: Dead in 213 Days

http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/10552

>> ^messenger:

>> ^shinyblurry:
...this is a movement without any cohesive message or objective..."
http://www.prosebeforehos.com/wordpress/wp
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http://c1planetsavecom.wpengine.netdna-cdn.
com/files/2011/11/ows-message-murdoch-e1322660861906.jpg
I know you're not a lib, but have you really swallowed that Fox media message?

>> ^shinyblurry:

...this is a movement without any cohesive message or objective..."

http://www.prosebeforehos.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/no-message-occupy-wall-street.png

http://c1planetsavecom.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/files/2011/11/ows-message-murdoch-e1322660861906.jpg

I know you're not a lib, but have you really swallowed that Fox media message?

>> ^chingalera:

These editorials from TYT...Still reek of the worst form of journalistic tripe. C & A use the same basic formula that keeps Murdoch's crap-riddled "media" empire afloat;
Sensationalism, inane editorial on current events, and smug gibbering about celebrities and volatile subject matter. That they are so popular here on Videosift is not surprising-Neither is Rupert's net worth considering the herd-mentality that keeps it afloat.
Question: If we are supposed to "sift" through the video offerings on the internet and embed the best here, why are ALL of the segments ever cranked-out by these wanna-be hacks embedded on this site??
Answer: "MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"


But who are you chastising? The people who vote democratically for it or against it (and they seem to vote for it), or the people who post it for it to be voted on?

I can't watch cenk, i think he has a great mind for doing this kind of thing, but until he can siphon out the 30000 miles per hour hyperactivity and fluff and deliver it in a good way, i can't watch. But videosift will continue to sift up whatever is popular and sift down whatever is not!

I get sick when i see the 3 billionth pomplamoose video being posted on the strength of having a very plain/oddly pretty girl with her face 3 inches from a webcam, but that's just what people like. I think this has a lot more content than that at least; there's a lot worse things you could get annoyed about first.

Agreed. I find TYT entertaining at times, but its in now way the cream of the crop that I expect from VideoSift.


>> ^chingalera:
If we are supposed to "sift" through the video offerings on the internet and embed the best here, why are ALL of the segments ever cranked-out by these wanna-be hacks embedded on this site??

>> ^chingalera:

These editorials from TYT...Still reek of the worst form of journalistic tripe. C & A use the same basic formula that keeps Murdoch's crap-riddled "media" empire afloat;
Sensationalism, inane editorial on current events, and smug gibbering about celebrities and volatile subject matter. That they are so popular here on Videosift is not surprising-Neither is Rupert's net worth considering the herd-mentality that keeps it afloat.
Question: If we are supposed to "sift" through the video offerings on the internet and embed the best here, why are ALL of the segments ever cranked-out by these wanna-be hacks embedded on this site??
Answer: "MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"


Nah, not all

These editorials from TYT...Still reek of the worst form of journalistic tripe. C & A use the same basic formula that keeps Murdoch's crap-riddled "media" empire afloat;
Sensationalism, inane editorial on current events, and smug gibbering about celebrities and volatile subject matter. That they are so popular here on Videosift is not surprising-Neither is Rupert's net worth considering the herd-mentality that keeps it afloat.

Question: If we are supposed to "sift" through the video offerings on the internet and embed the best here, why are ALL of the segments ever cranked-out by these wanna-be hacks embedded on this site??

Answer: "MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

>> ^Jinx:

was watching this with close captions on for some reason, and man do they murder everything Cenk says.
At about 1:50 it comes up with "was a little swallowing dat homes" and it made me spit drink on my keyboard. Just had to share.
edit: "sprinkled bus stop" Oh man, I gotta watch more youtube videos with this on.


Oh my god yeah, especially TYT, I can't even remember what vid it was now, but I posted one from TYT for the very purpose of watching with cc, hilarious!

Thanks!
In reply to this comment by alien_concept:
alien_concept: Rupert Murdoch - "A Cunt"

*promote

alien_concept: Rupert Murdoch - "A Cunt"

*promote

>> ^Payback:

>> ^Yogi:
I would argue that the US is still the best country in the world as far as Freedom of Speech is concerned. It was a really hard and constant battle, it wasn't given to us and we earned it. There's tons of European countries where you'll get arrested for denying the Holocaust...just stupid to give the state that power.

Your ENTIRE media is controlled by, at most, 3 men. Those 3 men tell 300 million people what reality is. Dissenting views are scorned, misrepresented, or ignored.
What good is free speech when then only way to talk to more than a few people at a time requires, literally, millions of dollars?
YAY! Your government cannot pass any law that hinders your opinions in any way. If you can't exercise that right because someone else yells louder than you can, is it even important to have?
The US government doesn't need to silence the masses. Rupert Murdoch et al do it for them.


You're bringing up a separate issue though. I was making the point that yes our government cannot hinder our opinions and that is more alive than ever. I used an example talking about what that means in relation to unpopular views. It simply staggers me that someone can be put in jail for their opinion in other countries because I am the beneficiary of a lot of hard work to earn our free speech.

Wasn't it just last month that a guy was jailed in England for making a racist tweet about Fabrice Muamba (the black footballer who collapse of a heart attack)? He said something racist and that's unpopular so he was put in jail. That's amazing to me, how could the government be given that power to decide what is out of line? What if they decide criticizing the government is out of line? That's a big deal, and it was an important battle over decades.

Now your separate issue you bring up is a very important one. It's sort of like giving someone freedom without giving them any ability. "Yes you are free to go make a million dollars...goodluck." You're correct in that it doesn't really work and that it's not fair. Our media system is awful and most americans know that, that doesn't prevent us from going around them much of the time through other mediums though. Your point is made but it maybe should be directed at someone who was arguing that we're perfect, rather than that we have freedom. I would love to discuss this with you though because I think you paint a bit of a bleak view...you just have to POST A VIDEO!