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Viral How Much Did Your Divorce Cost

scheherazade says...

"What on earth are you talking about?"
-newt

The rules for property and income when one or both parties decide they no longer want to be in the relationship.




"not having a marriage means you almost certainly will pay for them for 18+ years but won't have many rights to be in their lives"
-newt

Incorrect. If you are on birth certificate, you have the same rights and obligations.
The only pitfalls are that :
- Child support is calculated from the income of the parent with less custody (rather than from the true cost of raising a child).
- Women almost always get custody if the choice is between two parents (like when they live far apart and child can only be at one or the other).



"and may lose your rights to any assets if she grabs first"
-newt

Negative. Co-parenting does not conflate property.

Shared assets when not married are divided either by percentage of purchase price contribution, or by percentage stated in a contract.




"My brother paid well over a hundred thousand dollars for his divorce in Texas"
-newt

"My brother won."
-newt

Won by your own definition. Hence I congratulate.




"You assume women take off time to raise the kids"
-newt

No assumptions. Although afaik they still do it more often.




"You start from a false position that men work both harder and better, but you have no data to back that up. "
-newt

Top result from a zero effort google of "men working hours vs women working hours"

https://towardsdatascience.com/is-the-difference-in-work-hours-the-real-reason-for-the-gender-wage-gap-interactive-infographic-6051dff3a041




"Um...so since you admit many women outearn men and the trend reinforces that"
-newt

I admit that women [as a group] under 35 out earn men under 35 because of preferential admittance (such as to higher education) and preferential hiring (such as to managerial positions).

I did not say that women earn more in the same position for the same hours worked. Young men are simply getting shut out of opportunities, so their incomes are lower. As by design.

It does however highlight how affirmative action is being poorly controlled.
The target statistic is based on overall population at all ages.
The adjustment is skewed to younger ages (school admission is typically for younger people).
So the system is trying to balance out incomes of older men by trimming up incomes of younger women, with no accounting for the effects on younger men or consequences of older men retiring.
The situation is doomed to overshoot with time.

A natural result is the popularity of people like Jordan Peterson, with messages like : "Young men, nobody will help you, stop waiting for someone to help you, stop lamenting your situation, you gotta pull yourself up by your boot straps. Start by cleaning your room, then go make something of yourself".






"Bullshit. You said you would immediately dismiss any woman who has...
"Long dating history? Too much risk[etc]" -scheherazade "
-newt

Straw man argument.

You know I stated that those marriageability criteria exist specifically due to risk of consequences of divorce.

I never stated that I have personal issues with those attributes.
I have dated women on that list. I didn't /marry/ them.

My only criteria for a relationship that I am happy being in is :
- We are mutually attracted
- We like each other
- We are nice to each other
I don't care what your religion is, your politics, your family status, whatever. It's all just noise to me.





" And again, prenuptial. Do you not know what they are?"
-newt

Prenups can be negated by these simple words :

"I did not understand what I was signing"
or
"My lawyer was not present".

Poof. Prenup thrown out.




"their husbands are more likely to break their vows first"
-newt

A woman to cheat needs a willing man (easy)
A man to cheat needs a willing woman (hard)

Times have changed. Online dating made chatting someone up in person and make an impression uncommon, and even considered creepy/unusual. Now people are picked on their online profile based on looks/height/social-media-game.

Dating apps and sites publish their statistics. Nowadays, around 20% of men match with around 80% of women.
Most men aren't having sex. Most men can't find a match to cheat with if they wanted to.

The tall cute photogenic guys are cleaning up.
The 20% of men that match the bulk of women are going through women like a mill. They will smash whatever bored housewife crosses their path.

A 2 second google result :
https://usustatesman.com/economics-of-dating-2-the-brutal-reality-of-dating-apps/




"Women don't like men that believe wholeheartedly that all women are just lessers, leeches"
-newt

Agreed.

Fortunately, I never say that about women.






" you can't grasp that a codified, delineated, agreed to partnership is almost always better, more fulfilling, and has many benefits cohabitation lacks"
-newt

False equivalence.

Cohabitation and Partnership are mutually independent.
Meaning both can exist at the same time.


-scheherazade

newtboy said:

What on earth are you talking about?
Do you believe the government dictates your vows? What "rules"? You just cannot grasp the concept of no fault divorce or prenuptial, can you?

I guess you never planned on kids or shared assets. If you do, not having a marriage means you almost certainly will pay for them for 18+ years but won't have many rights to be in their lives, and may lose your rights to any assets if she grabs first. Uncle Sam is in your relationship, married or not....without a marriage contract, he makes ALL the rules and you have no say.

My brother paid well over a hundred thousand dollars for his divorce in Texas that in my state would have cost under $10K and you congratulate him? You are one strange person.

Again, your perception, not based in fact since the 60's. You assume women take off time to raise the kids and take care of parents and assume fathers don't take paternity leave or have obligations outside work. How 50's. You start from a false position that men work both harder and better, but you have no data to back that up. It certainly hasn't been my experience, I've seen women in the workplace working harder and longer for less pay, sacrificing just like their male counterparts if not more, putting off having families until it's too late while men can have kids long after normal retirement age, putting themselves in dangerous situations where those with power over them have opportunities to abuse that power and abuse those women in ways that rarely happen to men. These aren't exceptions, they're the norm.

Um...so since you admit many women outearn men and the trend reinforces that, meaning soon women in most catagories will out earn men and have more to lose, you admit you're wrong in your position now, right? Of course not, I expect you will still start from a point that hasn't been correct since the era and sexual revolution, early 70's at latest.

No, many of the studies I've seen compared people in the same exact positions in the same industries, even same companies, and women consistently get paid less for the exact same job and hours, and women rarely work less today, and just as often out work their male counterparts knowing they are often token hires not valued by the bosses so have less job security. If I recall correctly, 80% of job losses due to Covid were women, and the men are getting rehired faster. I think you are thinking of some studies from the 80's that made those assumptions and accusations. Comparing apples to apples, women still get shortchanged and as often as not overworked.

Bullshit. You said you would immediately dismiss any woman who has...
"Long dating history? Too much risk
Tends to have short relationships? Too much risk
Likes attention? Too much risk
Single mother (non-widow)? Too much risk
Any mental issues (depression, bipolar, narcissist, anxiety, etc)? Too much risk
Older (why you still single...)? Too much risk
Likes to party? Too much risk
Drinks? Too much risk"

And again, prenuptial. Do you not know what they are? Specify what you expect and agree, and you walk with exactly what you agreed to, no government rules or split involved. Geez. You speak as if you had never heard of them.

Most divorces may be initiated by the woman (if that's true, I expect it's just another assumption) because their husbands are more likely to break their vows first, but are not willing to pay to end the marriage, including penalties for breaking the marriage contract, and we're too dumb to get a prenuptial (or got one that spells out harsh penalties for cheating). Yes, I am assuming men cheat on their spouses more often than the reverse, because men are wired that way.

You are not more likely than not to face a divorce, because it's unlikely any woman meeting your criteria would give you a second thought, and you need to get married to get divorced.

I bet if you show your significant other this thread your 20 year relationship will be in big trouble, or at best enter a long dry dark spell. Women don't like men that believe wholeheartedly that all women are just lessers, leeches that take more than they deserve or even could give back and destroy you whenever they think it serves them. It's probably a good thing you aren't married.

Laws and family court aren't as you describe. Maybe when you enter the 21st century you'll recognize that. The rules of your marriage can be whatever you agree to, including the specifics of the split if it ends.

It's a sad thing you can't grasp that a codified, delineated, agreed to partnership is almost always better, more fulfilling, and has many benefits cohabitation lacks.....almost always unless one or both of you are total douchebags.

newtboy (Member Profile)

Democrat Breaks Senate Rules To Call Out Racist Senator

luxintenebris says...

too simple to be believed. no way. it's just ridiculous. a conservative bitter about power at any cost - from the other party?!! too unreal. come on. even the former president couldn't get infrastructure, or medical or medicine reform introduced into congress. geez, b33 get real.

to believe johnson wasn't concerned...well...yeah, he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed...or congress...but he should have been. had the idiots made it into the senate chamber, he was just as likely to die as any other non-descript senator.

most constituents can't identify their representatives, let alone, some other state's members. that's been proven yearly, and over decades of investigations.

it was racist. and undefendable.

...and caring? name the issue. then match the effort(s). HR1 is a better measure than any GOP bill offered in the last 20 yrs.

caring? reread that whole shat pile about abortion, murder, illegals, death, debauchery, and destruction...then explain how that's thoughtful and constructive.

personally, not a fan of most of that...but debauchery?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG_KZPeRpR8
what's not to love?

bobknight33 said:

Such Bull shit.
Everything is racist to a Democrat.

Dems don't care, they just want power, at any cost. Thy let blacks abort and murder each other so much that now they need illegals for Democrat votes.
Democrats, the party of death, debauchery and destruction.

Perceptive lawyer figures abuser and victim in same location

luxintenebris jokingly says...

read the title so that was a big tip-off

believe the greatest suspicion was the plaintiff's vagueness about the attack. the prosecution usually doesn't ask a question they don't know the answer to. the victim's testimony wasn't jiving w/her complaint. something very off. very nervous. in her own house. undoubtedly, ms. davis has dealt w/this (too much) and hearing the woman now trying to soft-sell what happen was likely the tipping point.

was odd that the woman had on winter gear. and she knew his hoodie was gray (looks darker). maybe a cold house? if that was a clue = columbo time.

would like to know the police officer's suspicions too. seemed his expressions matched the prosecutions. quick on the phone too.

BSR said:

Only thing that would make sense to me is, Deborah must be a mother. Mothers can pick up on clues that are impossible for the male to detect.

Huge cost of mismatched bumpers

lucky760 says...

That guy's voice seriously does not match his face.

Even whilst he was on screen with his mouth moving, I thought I couldn't hear him and was wondering why the voiceover guy was talking over the guy visible on the screen.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

JiggaJonson says...

For all the news I watch, I had not seen the speech from that angle before.

Tell me, does Donald Trump saying the words "We have to march on the capital" followed by a video of people hearing him say that and then repeating it out loud "he wants us to march on the capital the capital is that way!"


Is that or does that match the definition of incitement? Or does that word simply have no meaning for you?


If not that, I mean would it take him you know wiring together some kind of microchip and loading software onto it and then physically shoving it into somebody else's brain? If he did that and there was a video of him doing it while shouting "THIS WILL INCITE HIM!" I'm sure you'd find an excuse or someone to blame besides him or yourself.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

OMFG...can you even fucking read?
From your article I found on my own.....

...the forces of labor came together with the forces of capital to keep the peace and oppose Trump’s assault on democracy.

The handshake between business and labor was just one component of a vast, cross-partisan campaign to protect the election–an extraordinary shadow effort dedicated not to winning the vote but to ensuring it would be free and fair, credible and uncorrupted. For more than a year, a loosely organized coalition of operatives scrambled to shore up America’s institutions as they came under simultaneous attack from a remorseless pandemic and an autocratically inclined President. Though much of this activity took place on the left, it was separate from the Biden campaign and crossed ideological lines, with crucial contributions by nonpartisan and conservative actors. The scenario the shadow campaigners were desperate to stop was not a Trump victory. It was an election so calamitous that no result could be discerned at all, a failure of the central act of democratic self-governance that has been a hallmark of America since its founding.

Their work touched every aspect of the election. They got states to change voting systems and laws and helped secure hundreds of millions in public and private funding. They fended off voter-suppression lawsuits, recruited armies of poll workers and got millions of people to vote by mail for the first time. They successfully pressured social media companies to take a harder line against disinformation and used data-driven strategies to fight viral smears. They executed national public-awareness campaigns that helped Americans understand how the vote count would unfold over days or weeks, preventing Trump’s conspiracy theories and false claims of victory from getting more traction. After Election Day, they monitored every pressure point to ensure that Trump could not overturn the result. “The untold story of the election is the thousands of people of both parties who accomplished the triumph of American democracy at its very foundation,” says Norm Eisen, a prominent lawyer and former Obama Administration official who recruited Republicans and Democrats to the board of the Voter Protection Program.

For Trump and his allies were running their own campaign to spoil the election. The President spent months insisting that mail ballots were a Democratic plot and the election would be “rigged.” His henchmen at the state level sought to block their use, while his lawyers brought dozens of spurious suits to make it more difficult to vote–an intensification of the GOP’s legacy of suppressive tactics. Before the election, Trump plotted to block a legitimate vote count. And he spent the months following Nov. 3 trying to steal the election he’d lost–with lawsuits and conspiracy theories, pressure on state and local officials, and finally summoning his army of supporters to the Jan. 6 rally that ended in deadly violence at the Capitol.

You call that defrauding America? You are absolutely totally bat shit crazy, it describes a bipartisan effort defending democracy from Trump's baseless partisan attacks on it, on voting, and on truth....claiming if he doesn't win, it's rigged, if he wins, it's perfect. No where did anyone even imply voting machines defrauded anyone, it clearly states the obvious opposite, that they not only didn't have any serious issues, but also a physical paper backup that, in multiple recounts, still matched the results the machines gave.

You are such a non stop and just dumb liar. No doubt it effects your family life horribly.

bobknight33 said:

America was defrauded by these machines and the left.

And they openly admit it.
https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

Gender Reveal Sparked 47,000 Acre Wildfire cost $8 Million..

newtboy says...

Arson plain and simple. They should be charged with murder 1 for any deaths, and all 8 million in damages....not just the one guy who fired the shot but everyone involved in setting up the firebomb.

They went to a bone dry field of brush to create an explosion in the middle of waist high dead grass without clearing the fuel from the site and without bringing any fire suppression equipment, not even a wet towel, that makes it intentional arson....or a case of being too dumb to be allowed to live.

No reasonable person could NOT foresee that a huge tannerite explosion in a <2% humidity field of fuel would start a fire, and running away without even trying to put it out makes it again 100% intentional.
This moron and his family should just be harvested for organs, it's the closest they could get to actual restitution. This $500 a month nonsense is outrageous. 100% of the family's assets should be forfeited, including houses, cars, pensions, anything of value...and left with < $1500 a month from his salary....a fourth year agent makes an average of $125000 a year plus 64 days of paid time off, family health and life insurance, retirement starting at 50 with full benefits, employer matched savings, pension, etc. $500 a month ($6000 a year) is insulting and not even noticeable to his finances considering his salary, $5000 a month isn't enough, and would still leave him with $65000per year + all those benefits....not to mention whatever his wife brings in. That's absolutely outrageous. I feel like restitution of $100000 a year until it's fully paid off is being generous considering the damage he caused.
Side note, this is the level of intelligence the border control agency accepts. We need an IQ minimum for public servants, I'm pissed one penny of my tax dollars go to pay brain dead slugs like him, and that total morons like him are armed and given authority is asinine.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

JiggaJonson says...

Hahaha i got it. He needs the black vote. He absolutely need the black vote to win these states. Philadelphians, for example, are 45% black. African americans make up a larger portion of the population in southern states, as you can imagine, vs the population elsewhere.

Now i know what you're thinking

Black people voted for Trump, he won 110% of the black voters.

I'm not going to waste more time on a traitor, but you should go Google "Trump rally runoff georgia crowd"

Or look at the crowd at the Capitol building. It's like nothing but black people, there are so many.. i ... Pfft okay sorry i almost got through that with a straight face.


Now, i know biden is always talking to an empty room at his rallies, so what you're about to see may shock you. Google "biden Harris rally"after that.


Weird, wait... Wait. Black. Out. Media BLACK out, you don't think... Black lives matter media blocked all the pictures of black people at Trump rallies. Diabolical. But then how did Biden get the official results to match up?

Hmmm but how... Trump says he got all that voting block... Unless...
Quick link to prove a point but this article is old
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/donald-trump-african-american-vote-227218

I see the PGA tour is no longer going to work with Trump golf courses at all. Good.

Congress Under Armed Attack Live Stream

greatgooglymoogly says...

"Who said protests have to be peaceful?"
-Chris Cuomo

The acts of Jan 6 were a little predictable given the police and public responses to riots the last 6 months. People tried to burn down the federal courthouse in Portland, and the worst they got was teargas. Same with burning the church just blocks away from the capitol. No bullets fired at any point. I don't think there was any expectation of getting shot by anyone going in unarmed, the cops seemed satisfied to resist with a shoving match in many cases, even those carrying full-auto assault rifles were remarkably restrained. I think they recovered 5 guns total by people inside?

It looks like there were enough cops to hold the crowd back if they concentrated at the doors, they made a mistake trying to have a large perimeter, which is why we have videos of them taking barriers down because they were just gone around and useless, not because cops were letting them in. There were about 50 full on riot cops with shields who seemed to hold the rear of the building just fine.

Match Made In Hell

Match Made In Hell

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Match Made In Hell

Trump's Star Witness Is A Drunk Karen

greatgooglymoogly says...

A couple things. Photo ID wouldn't do a thing if Chinese people look alike. An ID without photo would be just as viable. The woman in the original video was mostly directly contradicted by I believe the Indian woman, who mentioned that when boxes were opened and tabulated numbers didn't match the number of ballots(ie running ballots though multiple times, so she corroborates this part) then they would re-do the count to get the correct number. She never said she saw a mismatch observed but not corrected.

Biden waves to missing crowd.

newtboy says...

Intentional infections and deaths vs adult responsibility.

Trump cultists happily put their lives at risk because Trump told them to.
Biden asked people to stay home and safe.

Hate to tell you, not Trump is ALL he has to be unless one of Trump's plots to subvert democracy is successful, his latest being calling on republican governors to claim they don't think the vote total matches their state, so they should toss the vote and just send all pro Trump electors, making us a dictatorship, not even a democratic republic.

bobknight33 said:

Donald Trump Rallies Vs Joe Biden Rallies.




Trump shows up and there are 5,000 to 15,000 to great him.

How on earth do Democrats believe Biden will win?



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