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Imagine If All Atheists Left America

gwiz665 says...

No, I don't think it is.

Christianity actively "filters" its content to only portray the nice parts; the golden rule, be nice to others, don't kill; that sort of thing, but it hides the gay bashing, slavery, misogyny and all the other bad stuff.

It has an intentional consequence which is sinister. Libertarianism, to follow up on your example, is on the other hand not intentionally evil, it has unintended evil consequences, such as corporate takeover of a "free" market, disregard for people's wellbeing when compared to the money-focus and so on.

Pure libertarianism is bad because it is too naive and thinks to highly of people to know and act "smart" and to make the right choices by themselves. At its core libertarianism seems like a good idea, to each his own, make your own luck, free markets etc. but when you think of the consequences, then it's a bad idea taken to its extreme.

Christianity is bad because it sells itself as something its not. It is explicitly bad when you look at its holy book, the idea of hell and redemption is bad, and it tries desperately to hide its bad sides as "part of the times" or to essentially pick and choose what it is. At its very core, even if you pick and choose like crazy, the idea of God makes no sense. You only have to read the bible to become an atheist.

>> ^NetRunner:

>> ^gwiz665:
Christianity is sinister, in that it guises itself as a good thing "do unto others etc", but in reality it is a means for people to control other people - not just enslave them, but control their minds, make them willing slaves, and that to me is even more scary than just being oppressed.

That's kinda a generic fill in the blank rhetoric for any ideology you don't like. For example:

Libertarianism is sinister, in that it guises itself as a good thing "you own the product of your labor etc", but in reality it is a means for people to control other people - not just enslave them, but control their minds, make them willing slaves, and that to me is even more scary than just being oppressed.

It's basically true of any moral philosophy. For people on the outside, they're transparent schemes to get people to lash themselves to the yoke. From the inside, it's a guiding principle that gives their lives meaning.

Republican War On Working Families

Ryjkyj says...

>> ^bobknight33:

Why do you think you deserve a piece of someone else pie? Make your own pie. Like you, I'm just trying to keep my pie for my family.
I agree that corporations are not paying any taxes and that is a damn shame.
I not sure that we started going bankrupt at the end of the Bush era. I believe its been building for a lot longer. I do agree that Bush did his fair share of damage on the budget.
I'm not calling for blood but having government employees unionized is just wrong. Sure they can do it but it is just fundamentally and morally wrong. One would want to serve the government not get at the expense of the average taxpayer.
>> ^Ryjkyj:



I deserve a piece of America Bob, just like everybody else who pays for it. I hate to tell you this, but it's not just yours.

Voodoo is right. It's way more than just a "damn shame" that the largest corporations pay almost no taxes. Waaaaaaayyyyyyy. more.

I love that you can say that Bush did his fair share of damage and yet spout the same politics with what I assume is a straight face.

I'm not even sure what this means dude: "One would want to serve the government not get at the expense of the average taxpayer."

Republican War On Working Families

ghark says...

>> ^bobknight33:

Why do you think you deserve a piece of someone else pie? Make your own pie. Like you, I'm just trying to keep my pie for my family.
I agree that corporations are not paying any taxes and that is a damn shame.
I not sure that we started going bankrupt at the end of the Bush era. I believe its been building for a lot longer. I do agree that Bush did his fair share of damage on the budget.
I'm not calling for blood but having government employees unionized is just wrong. Sure they can do it but it is just fundamentally and morally wrong. One would want to serve the government not get at the expense of the average taxpayer.
>> ^Ryjkyj:



You got the first bit right... "one would want to serve the Government".. the next bit would be, "and be fairly compensated". That's all they are asking for. Why are you so bitter about this happening when, as you admit, the large corporation's aren't paying taxes and it could come from them - shouldn't you be out there protesting too?

Republican War On Working Families

bobknight33 says...

Why do you think you deserve a piece of someone else pie? Make your own pie. Like you, I'm just trying to keep my pie for my family.

I agree that corporations are not paying any taxes and that is a damn shame.

I not sure that we started going bankrupt at the end of the Bush era. I believe its been building for a lot longer. I do agree that Bush did his fair share of damage on the budget.

I'm not calling for blood but having government employees unionized is just wrong. Sure they can do it but it is just fundamentally and morally wrong. One would want to serve the government not get at the expense of the average taxpayer.

>> ^Ryjkyj:

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Rock Sugar "Don't Stop The Sandman"

youdiejoe says...

>> ^detheter:

Sorry, did not like this. Not because of musicianship, or production qualities, ect but because these two songs have vastly different meanings, and the attempt just comes off as trying very hard to mash these together so hard that you end up breaking both as a result. I like both songs separately, however, as i'm not really a fan of most covers to begin with, taking a song about religious indoctrination, childhood fear, and uncertainty about the unknown, and gluing it onto a song about hard times and making your own way, just makes a frankensong with no meaning for existing.I'd really appreciate an explanation of what these two songs have to do with one another, other than being really trendy, really popular songs, from the same time period.


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Rock Sugar "Don't Stop The Sandman"

detheter says...

Sorry, did not like this. Not because of musicianship, or production qualities, ect but because these two songs have vastly different meanings, and the attempt just comes off as trying very hard to mash these together so hard that you end up breaking both as a result. I like both songs separately, however, as i'm not really a fan of most covers to begin with, taking a song about religious indoctrination, childhood fear, and uncertainty about the unknown, and gluing it onto a song about hard times and making your own way, just makes a frankensong with no meaning for existing.I'd really appreciate an explanation of what these two songs have to do with one another, other than being really trendy, really popular songs, from the same time period.

Futurama - I'll be in the Chamber of Understanding!

He only wanted some bacon!

TYT - 2010 Post Election Rant

VoodooV says...

Uhm..you can make that argument on both sides of the aisle, dumbass. Lots of places are bankrupt and yet they continue to not make changes. Insanity knows no distinction between party.

>> ^quantumushroom:

Have you ever considered that the ideology of the left is itself a failure? California is bankrupt and the fools there just reelected the same-same, once again illustrating the definition of insanity. Extremely liberal California is sinking while not-liberal Texas is thriving (it's where companies are moving when they flee CA).
I'm all for secession. This federal mafia is too big and too corrupt. Let liberal politicos pay off their constituents with the blood of some other host besides taxpayers in other states.

>> ^Enzoblue:
WE did the right thing, we got dems in power in all three branches. They failed us miserably.
Wonder why voter turn out for young people and dems was so low? Because we don't give a shit anymore. Our only hope for real change is to let the idiots have the helm and, this time, drive us into a recession that we can't bail out of. One that causes our complete collapse and results in state secession.
You want God in your government Alabama/Louisiana/Mississippi etc? Make your own constitution. I will fully support you.
I will be in the Peoples Republic of Pennsylvania, (hopefully).


TYT - 2010 Post Election Rant

quantumushroom says...

Have you ever considered that the ideology of the left is itself a failure? California is bankrupt and the fools there just reelected the same-same, once again illustrating the definition of insanity. Extremely liberal California is sinking while not-liberal Texas is thriving (it's where companies are moving when they flee CA).

I'm all for secession. This federal mafia is too big and too corrupt. Let liberal politicos pay off their constituents with the blood of some other host besides taxpayers in other states.


>> ^Enzoblue:

WE did the right thing, we got dems in power in all three branches. They failed us miserably.
Wonder why voter turn out for young people and dems was so low? Because we don't give a shit anymore. Our only hope for real change is to let the idiots have the helm and, this time, drive us into a recession that we can't bail out of. One that causes our complete collapse and results in state secession.
You want God in your government Alabama/Louisiana/Mississippi etc? Make your own constitution. I will fully support you.
I will be in the Peoples Republic of Pennsylvania, (hopefully).

Alcohol causes more harm than heroin

TYT - 2010 Post Election Rant

Enzoblue says...

WE did the right thing, we got dems in power in all three branches. They failed us miserably.

Wonder why voter turn out for young people and dems was so low? Because we don't give a shit anymore. Our only hope for real change is to let the idiots have the helm and, this time, drive us into a recession that we can't bail out of. One that causes our complete collapse and results in state secession.

You want God in your government Alabama/Louisiana/Mississippi etc? Make your own constitution. I will fully support you.

I will be in the Peoples Republic of Pennsylvania, (hopefully).



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