Yeah, because parents are never up to no good....and moronic criminals never record their crimes.
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Legitimate to worry, not legitimate to take it upon yourself to test it. I'm worried about my money in the bank, it's not legitimate for me to break into the vault to see how easy it is. Duh.

What?! How would the school not having funding to increase security in any way excuse her going to great lengths putting all other students at risk? It would be worse, because she would be going in knowing they CAN'T increase security because they can't afford to.

You are free to assume this person had only perfectly pure motives (just as others are free to assume she was going to kidnap a child for a sex slave while disguised as another child in a mask and hoodie), but that doesn't change the fact that she surreptitiously snuck into the school with no authorization or authority to do so. Her motives might be above board, her actions aren't even close. The proverbial road to Hell is what you think excuses her illegal actions.
Edit:You seem to be suggesting we prosecute thought crimes only....If I intend to commit a crime but don't intend to do harm, no foul, but if I wish to do harm but take no action, lock me up. That's not American or reasonable without a perfect mind reading machine. We prosecute actions, and her outrageous trespass was definitely illegal.

Would you be fine with me, or any random citizen "testing" the security of your home when only your children are there? What if I dress like their friend? Gee....why not? Don't you think the other parents have the right to not have adults constantly trying to be in their schools disguised as kids under masks?

ROTFLMFAHS!!
You actually just said that. Holy shit!

You only say it's ok to lock him up now that Trump has turned his back. If Trump still stood with him, you would too.

Bob, you need some serious self examination. You are a high ranking cultist in the cult of Trump.
You yourself said lying is fine and proper even under oath, making up any bullshit that supports your position. You said that, you said only idiots tell the truth if it hurts their case. You absolutely do not look for, or care about truth or facts. You have been crystal clear about that.


Bob....I'm a registered independent. I don't have a party.
I see your party, the most criminal, dishonest, and divisive in American history that repeats like a mantra that they have no obligation to tell the American people the truth....I see them and wretch. The pedophilic, anti science, anti equality, anti ecology, anti truth, pro secret unlimited bribe money in politics party of say anything is what Republicans have become.

You are so deep in the cult, you only see what the Trump party tells you that you see, and you damn your eyes if they disagree.

Claims without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Hrmph, looks like your bullshit has run the gamut of newtboy's patience as well. Can't say i blame him. What blinders?


Is this the section you're referring to ?


"Though much of this activity took place on the left, it was separate from the Biden campaign and crossed ideological lines, with crucial contributions by nonpartisan and conservative actors. The scenario the shadow campaigners were desperate to stop was not a Trump victory. It was an election so calamitous that no result could be discerned at all"


"crossed ideological lines, with crucial contributions by nonpartisan and conservative actors"
"crossed ideological lines, with crucial contributions by nonpartisan and conservative actors"
"crossed ideological lines, with crucial contributions by nonpartisan and conservative actors"

I'm trying to wrap my head around this. Did you read that and did your eyes go fuzzy and then your brain said "THE LEFT DID IT"???


"The scenario the shadow campaigners were desperate to stop was not a Trump victory. It was an election ... w/no result"
"The scenario the shadow campaigners were desperate to stop was not a Trump victory. It was an election ... w/no result"
"The scenario the shadow campaigners were desperate to stop was not a Trump victory. It was an election ... w/no result"

Did you read that, hit yourself in the face with a rolling pin, and then see "THEY ONLY WANT TO STOP TRUMP"???


HOLD ON, newt, gotta speak thenidiot language. I'll translate.


No collusion! No collusion! Hoax, the fake news media. Hillary! Hoax! Lock her up! Beautiful delicious wall. No collusion! Unfair!

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Seriously though, newt I think you're missing something. You missed what he said here. Bob said that voters determined the election.

Given that he's advocating locking people up for life with no recreation time I'd consider him a bad person, and I think most people would agree that disproportionate punishment at that level is wrong.

So do you agree that he should be locked up?

As a child I played with matches up in the attic of our house. The matches were book matches from a funeral home my father worked for as a part time job when he was off duty as a cop. The cover of the matches had a black glossy finish.

Dad found the matches while cleaning out the attic. Dad called my name from upstairs and I headed that way.

His first question to me was, "Were you playing with matches up here?"

His second question was, "Are you lying?"

His third question was, "Are you lying?"

His last question was, "I'm only going to ask you one more time. If you lie to me I'm taking you down to city hall and lock you up. Were you playing with matches up here?"

He grabbed my hand and turned it palm up. He pulled out the pack of matches and picked up some floor sweepings then sprinkled it on the black glossy cover. And DAMN! wouldn't you know it. There stood a perfectly proud little fingerprint. It matched the one on my hand. (I guess. I never brought a lawyer.)

Out to the car we went. I was on my way to jail which gave me about five minutes to rethink my answer. The closer we got, the bigger my fears grew. He made the last turn onto the street for city hall.

I cracked! "I did it. I was playing with the matches." I confessed.

My answer was my Get Out of Jail Free card.

Many years later I brought up that day with my dad. He confessed that he had no idea what he was going to do if I didn't crack.

My only reply to him was, "You bastard!" We both laughed together.

Republicans said anyone over 65 would have a death panel decide if they were worth treating, a flat out lie, and miles away from suggesting maybe we wouldn't authorize a heart and lung transplant for 90 year olds, or other multimillion dollar procedures...of course nothing would stop them from paying for the procedures themselves. Now, under republican leadership, death panels are what's happening by necessity in Texas.

I guess the rest of the world is Democrats, because the rest of the world shutdown, but really shutdown not a voluntary minimal social distancing 1/2 ass shutdown where most businesses and public spaces stayed open. Where shutdowns actually happened, Covid was quickly under control. Where they weren't or where they were lifted, Covid is exploding....like America and Brazil.
150000 dead Americans citizens and counting is a nothing burger. 4 dead in Benghazi calls for shutting the government down until we lock her up.

I'll tell my politicians to follow at least minimal health guidelines and not open until two weeks of serious declines, and to make masks mandatory with large fines and jail time for repeat offenders.

If Trump had closed down and told his morons to wear masks, not incited them to gather in large groups without masks over and over, he could have been a hero, but instead he ignored the problem and encouraged the worst, most unsafe, guaranteed to extend shutdowns behavior and so we have the worst death rates on earth, with India closing fast.

Biden is good, but even he can't solve the Trump virus crisis in two months now...if he were president in Jan 2020, yeah, two months is about right.

When Joe introduce the crime bill in early 90's and signed into law by Clinton, it set out this mess we have today.

Let Lock em up Joe explain it and how proud he is of it today.

They don't deserve denied care unless they're in crowds unmasked, then yes, but I also support prosecuting them, since the organized people caught doing damage and sparking riots so far are right wing extremists, actually right wing terrorists with all the accompanying bombs and plans to destroy America, that sounds great. Anyone actually doing damage (beyond simple reversible vandalism like paint on glass), lighting fires, beating peaceful people, driving/shooting into crowds, or instigating others to do so aren't protesters....nor are they cops, identify them too, first actually. Round them all up and lock them up together.

Of course, you agree we should also use them at any white power/other hate group rally and make the lists public, right? They have a right to hate, we have every right to identify and hate them back, and shun them, refuse them service, employment, or housing, right? Being prejudiced is not a protected class.

Trump probably told you that lie to make his abject failure that's going to kill at least 100000 Americans that need not have died look better, it's simply not what scientists/doctors said.

We were told there could eventually be 1-2 million deaths over the course of the pandemic if we did absolutely nothing. Trump wants you to make that the measure of success, one less death than doing nothing = great leadership. *facepalm

Trump said the 15 cases were all we would ever see, and it would just go away by April. Trust him. Ok...100 cases, it's not as bad as the flu, trust him. Ok, 1000 cases, it's fine, trust him. I mean 10000, 25000, 40000, 50000, 75000, 80000, 100000 and rising faster, but he's got this, it's under control, go back to work and shopping, trust him.

Epidemiologists said there would likely be 100000-250000 deaths (based on when we all started social distancing), 90% of which would have been avoided if Trump hadn't stalled so long on federal guidelines and actions and acted just two weeks earlier.

Sounds like an unmitigated failure requiring we lock him up for at least 25000 times longer than Hillary deserved.

Poor @bobknight33....Trump's state department on Friday finally, after uncountable and a seemingly never ending series of purely partisan investigations, exonerated H Clinton of any wrongdoing over her email server...again...and explained that most of the now classified data sent TO her, not by her, through unsecured channels were (was) classified after the fact as an attempt to create a crime where none existed.
Thanks to the also uncountable and horrific crimes against the nation, our allies, and the constitution by Comrade Trump hogging all political news coverage, that report, published last week and released publicly on Friday got almost zero news coverage, and not a word from those who accused her and insisted on continued investigations.

https://www.npr.org/sections/publiceditor/2019/10/23/772328703/clinton-emails-closing-the-loop-on-a-prominent-story

Trump just in the week called the constitution "phony", seeded control of Northern Syria to Russia (causing an immediate resurgence of Daesh) and was forced by Republicans to cancel his latest ploy to profit from the office.
He often uses unsecured channels to communicate actually classified information with his family who couldn't pass a background check to get security clearance, and hides unclassified criminal activity on secret servers himself. He constantly used his private lawyer to do illegal back room secret foreign policy contrary to the national interests and for purely personal political gains. Meanwhile, as he accuses Biden's family of profiting from his position with zero evidence, his own children are collecting tens to hundreds of millions from our foreign enemies by their own accounting (which means the truth is far worse).
On top of that, his business filings that are now public show incontrovertible proof of either tax fraud or bank fraud, likely both, since to banks he reported extremely high profits while to the IRS he claimed low profits and losses.
Lock them up
Lock them up
Lock them up
Lock them up.....

Well, that escalated slowly. For once, I'm on the officer's side.
A well deserved tazing. She was resisting arrest and was trying to hit and kick the officer after running from him.

Where does she get this sense of entitlement? Driving near 6 months with a broken taillight, and she balks at a fix it ticket? They don't have to let you off with a warning.

If that was a young man, the treatment would undoubtedly have been much more violent. Had she been black, it likely would have ended with gunshots. There's no excuse in the law for being white, female, fat, or old. Lock her up, she fled and assaulted that cop.
She's facing one hell of a lot more than $80 in fines now.

I didn't run, I just told you you couldn't arrest me and drove away....that's what running from the law means, hun.

Lol.

The report is all lies!? As if you've read any of it. If Trump told you it's all fake news lies, and Trump told you it exonerated him and showed no obstruction, doesn't that mean the exoneration is fake news and there was obstruction?

The mainstream is all leftist? There I agree, mainstream America is leftist....compared to your conspiracy based far right insanity. That's why Trump has never enjoyed even 50% approval, unlike every other president ever.

This is about getting people to hear the actual report, not your ignorant Trumpian lies about it. You think this is a "we got him" moment?! Lol. We know there is no such thing with the complicit sycophantic Senate. How many "we got her" moments have you enjoyed over Clinton?

No one person in American history has offered more lies to the American public than Little Donny, America's Biggest Loser. I know you hate hearing that, because you can't contradict it.
Obama didn't need a lawyer in 8 years, how many has Trump needed in under 3 years? And now on top of the never-ending litany of scandals, criminal prosecutions, lost court cases, failed policies, appointees removed for cause, etc, he has yet another rape charge to defend, how many sexual harassment charges is that? 14?
Better get another lawyer.

It's so hilarious to hear your ilk complain "you lost, get over it" halfway through the process with so much of the report still being litigated, but the same cucks still chant "lock her up", "reinvestigate Clinton", etc after 25+ years and hundreds of millions wasted on failed attempts to dig up dirt on her....then lie and claim "$30 million wasted investigating Trump for nothing, nada, zip" (nothing except 34 convictions for crimes against America and over $45 million recovered, and a dozen active criminal court cases).

Oops....among all your other misstatements of fact, you forgot Papadopolis, who's illegal collusion with Russia, seeking a hostile foreign power's help in digging up dirt on Democrats, actually started the FBI investigation before anyone knew the Republicans hired Fusion/Steele, who later turned their work over to Clinton, who then informed the FBI who was already investigating Trump's campaign. Papadopoulos plead guilty. His actions spurred the legitimate investigation, not Fusion or Steele.

On October 5, 2017, Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to making false statements to FBI agents about the timing and the possible significance of his contacts in 2016 relating to U.S.-Russia relations and the Donald Trump presidential campaign.

It's clear you haven't read the Mueller report...although if you had it's also clear you would continue to lie about what's in it, as you just did. There are mountains of evidence being considered in multiple courts as we speak, and mountains more waiting for him to leave office. 34 convictions on that evidence you say isn't enough for court. The lions share of those blacked out parts of the report you didn't read are due to ongoing cases....liar.

Most of what was in the Steele dossier turned out to be 100% correct, as was the decision to turn it over. It was independently verified before being mentioned in courts. This has been litigated, and Trump lost, sore loser. Trump, conversely, still publicly states he would accept foreign help in his campaign and wouldn't inform the FBI, two crimes against the US. Rusher, if you're listening, please hack government servers and release dirt on my opponent...remember? And within hours they did exactly that, remember?

In October 2015, Fusion GPS was contracted by conservative political website The Washington Free Beacon (who, like most Republicans were Trump haters) to provide general opposition research on Trump and other Republican presidential candidates. In April 2016, attorneys for Hillary Clinton's campaign and the DNC separately hired Fusion GPS to investigate Trump, while The Free Beacon stopped its backing in May of 2016. In June 2016, Fusion GPS subcontracted Steele's firm to compile the dossier. Clinton campaign officials were reportedly unaware that Fusion GPS had subcontracted Steele, and he was not told that the Clinton campaign was the recipient of his research. Following Trump's election as president, funding from Clinton and the DNC ceased, but Steele continued his research and was reportedly paid directly by Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn R. Simpson. While compiling the dossier, Steele passed information to both British and American intelligence services.

Trump has said clearly he would not have turned it over, nor would he care if the accusations were true.


Trump is a life long criminal fraud, admitted and convicted, and horrific business man, backstabbing "friend" who constantly tried to sleep with his friend's wives, incestuous pedophile, cheating husband and philanderer, and well known documented golf cheat. You and he admit he's a constant liar, in fact you applaud him for lying, stating clearly that you think that he is smart to lie under oath, because the truth would convict him. His cabinet has proven to be the worst, most criminal administration ever in the history of the US. None has more convictions for crimes against the state, or more pending criminal cases, or more lobbyists filling positions, or more turnover, or more failed appointments.

Funny, don't you still chant "lock her up" over pizzagate and Benghazzi, demanding more politically motivated investigations alongside Trump? Sore loser...still fighting the losses. As usual, you have it all hypocritically backwards.

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There are a few problems with that, and they all end up at the same issue, lobbying.
Police unions are incredibly powerful lobbyists and do lobby against the public's interests, and they use the threat of striking, leaving the public with zero law enforcement, to squash any attempt to regulate them.....and when that fails, the sheriffs and chiefs often just ignore the new laws, like they did about making discipline records public in CA, they just said "nope" and refused to release them, many departments held bonfires where they burned these records to ensure they would never, under any circumstances, become public knowledge....still today, even long after the law went into effect Jan. 1st and has been upheld in courts, the A.G. just outright refused again to follow state law and release these public records. Pretty damn hard to establish an effective oversight body when police have the ability to erase all information they wish by any means with no repercussions.

Second, the prison guard union is the best funded, most powerful private/union lobbying group in America, and they do actually write laws for representatives to present. It's clearly in their best interest to force the desperate to be criminals, it's their bread and butter. They fight to expand minimum sentencing, incarcerate 14 year olds as adults for life, continue and expand the failed drug war, oppose any rescinding of criminal laws, have tried to reinstate debtor's prisons, criminalized multiple civil crimes, etc....incarceration is their business, and business is good.

So while I agree, there are numerous better systems that serve everyone much better with less money , less incarceration, and less recidivism, until we revamp our political system to make it illegal to bribe politicians (and make no mistake, it's perfectly legal to bribe them with campaign donations or promises of massive support), there is no way in hell it's going to improve and a near certainty it will continue to get worse because there's money to be made by locking people up.

In the wake of the financial crisis Iceland refused to listen to the bad advice of the bankers who caused the mess and locked them up instead. This let them recover their economy instead of falling deeper in to the bankers debt.