While I agree that this is not terrible, I don't think it's a great commercial, either. It's typical, I would say, of a gimmicky disc jockey ad.

As far as its siftworthiness goes, I think it's instructive to see the origin of a guy who has become relatively heavily sifted of late. It interests me that Beck, from the beginning has been using outlandish non sequitors to attract and retain his audiences.

I fucking hate spics, dotheads, honkeys, japs, wops, kikes, wetbacks, gooks, chinks, camel jockeys and the french...

but I love niggers!

>> ^MarineGunrock:
I'll let wikipedia do the talking.


Of course you will. Sheesh. You really have no clue what the Establishment Clause is or refers to, do you? Just another self-righteous Wiki-jockey. "Keep trying". LOL, that's rich!

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"

That's it (at least the religious portion). Everything else... the Lemon Test, Souter's opinion, etc., are interpretations of the clause and the subsequent laws/decisions based upon them. The contents of EDD's comment violate exactly the same thing as prayer does. The Lemon Test is an Establishment Clause test, as far as it refers to religion. "The opposite of what prayer violates"? Clueless...

Stick to your strengths, hero. Guns, patriotism, toadying, and early release from active duty.

You have no sympathy from me. Here is a site better suited to you. Make some new friends.

In reply to this comment by vjdj247365:
i resemble that remark, unfortunately, and "screw you's" in order, accepted and processed-
Baby out with the bathwater, eh?....great Nuclear solution there brother-Believe me, sock-puppets, I have none, this one is not me, you'll notice I seldom chime in here any more, those who have no desire for the real, the meaningful, THEY ignore-Like DAG, a lot of users detest conflict of any kind, even if it be with a view to consciousness, and understanding-Some of you folks seem to think that the misuse of words, and bad grammar, and for mispellings, have something to do with the overall character of an individ......OR that the use of a word more than twice, regardless of context, constitutes "hate" "bigotry" etc. I am a hater...hate stupidity...I am a bigot, prejudice agin' dumbasses-geez, pulling teeth with associates, feels like being at a day-job...as in wage-slavework-

Dag crossed a line which did not exist, in the land of rules there pard-waited until he could kill me-fuck him, he will not enter into the arena of conversation, perhaps he needs a heart, a brain, and some courage.
-Zardoz
In reply to this comment by CaptWillard:
Jesus, I left this place when CaptainAsswipe420 was a bronze star and was hating on gays.

I remember it well. And by the way BillO, nice necro-quality you gave CP420 for that fucking farce of an apology he offered. I used to occasionally find you amusing. Now you are just another worthless troll. Please downvote this comment. It's what you are best at.

Unfortunately enough of you guys gave CP420 enough votes to get him a gold star. I am sure you voted for his videos in good faith, putting aside the fact that he is a dickhead. Now look where we are at with him. I am not blaming you because I probably would have voted for some of his videos too, including the one in question. I have been lurking here the past couple of days just trying to make heads or tails of this shit and I still do not get it. I guess I will start by saying this:

1. Screw you MINK. You're calling this McCarthyism? What a hypocrite. I remember when you chastised us for wallowing in free speech and egalitarianism because poor little gluonium stormed off. Now you want to spook us with the specter of McCarthyism - the supression of free speech and thought, which doesn't at all apply here - even though you wanted to muzzle us back then for no better reason than you liking little glu-glu.

Is that too ad hominem for you, MINK? I also remember when you took us to task for ad homs, even though you have used the word "retarded" to describe people and points of view you don't like more than anyone I've ever met. Just look here people, and tell I'm wrong about that. For a condescending elitist your vocabulary isn't worth a shit, minky.

This is not about McCarthyism. It is about nothing more than dealing with a fucking troll because he is doing typical trollish shit. He is not making any thoughtful or valid arguments, and his negative contributions to this place far exceed anything positive he has brought. He is just creating a shitstorm of controversy. That is all he wants, and that is all he has ever wanted here. In other words he is just a fucking troll.

2. Screw you choggie. I used to like you at one time. Now you are just a spiteful and petty troll with sock puppets who like to use taboo words like nigger and camel jockey. Dag had to redact that second comment for many reasons. I am sure the use of "camel jockey" was one of the them. Now I know why CP420 likes you so well. Birds of a feather flock together.

3. Dag and lucky: Why wasn't CP420 banned after this comment? Seriously. According to former admin James Roe you haved purged users for racism. How is this different? I am a heterosexual male with a black father and a white mother, but I would have been offended no worse if CP420 had described black people as "losers" instead of gays. Both insults are just as bad. If you think I am wrong then tell me how.

You have banned members for troop bashing:

http://www.videosift.com/talk/Can-I-get-a-ban-admins-Please

And for general douchebaggery:

http://www.videosift.com/member/iloseatlife


So what makes CP420 so special? The gold star next to his name? I think you owe the members of this community - the community you founded - an explanation that involves more than "tolerance." Tolerance is great. That doesn't mean we have to allow Fred Phelps to start posting comments, does it? As far as this particular case goes, are you going to allow CP420 to smear Muslims by portraying them as scheming cabalists who are trying to destroy a neo-con hero? For the sake of argument, let's say there was a "Judaism" channel. What if every time someone posted a video about the banking industry - and there are lot of those lately - someone used the Judaism tag? Would that not be offensive to Jews? The great Zionist conpiracy LIE of the past has been transformed into the great Muslim conspiracy LIE of the present. Please explain if you disagree.

This is just a web site with a relatively small number of members who want a respectful community. If I remember you didn't want this place to become like YouTube. Yet here we are.

If my questions sound too demanding I really do not care. I have not been here for a long time anyway so you can ban me for all I care. The only reason I am here now is because I am currently staying with a friend right now who is still a member, and curiosity got the best of me so I logged in. I almost wish I hadn't now. Maybe you are wishing the same thing too.

4. To everyone else: If dag and lucky don't get rid of CP420 all I can suggest is to never vote for his videos again EVER, and any time he ever writes something even remotely stupid - all the time - downvote it. He does it all the time to you. Return the favor. He seems to delight in his role as a troll, so treat him as such. He deserves no better.

5. To CaptainPlanet420: Fuck you youngling. You are a fucking coward who feels tough by taking on an entire VIRTUAL community. Would you talk the same shit to REAL people at a gay pride parade, or at a gathering of Muslims? Don't answer that, youngling. You will only embarrass yourself. It is what you do best.

*promote for further discussion

Jesus, I left this place when CaptainAsswipe420 was a bronze star and was hating on gays.

I remember it well. And by the way BillO, nice necro-quality you gave CP420 for that fucking farce of an apology he offered. I used to occasionally find you amusing. Now you are just another worthless troll. Please downvote this comment. It's what you are best at.

Unfortunately enough of you guys gave CP420 enough votes to get him a gold star. I am sure you voted for his videos in good faith, putting aside the fact that he is a dickhead. Now look where we are at with him. I am not blaming you because I probably would have voted for some of his videos too, including the one in question. I have been lurking here the past couple of days just trying to make heads or tails of this shit and I still do not get it. I guess I will start by saying this:

1. Screw you MINK. You're calling this McCarthyism? What a hypocrite. I remember when you chastised us for wallowing in free speech and egalitarianism because poor little gluonium stormed off. Now you want to spook us with the specter of McCarthyism - the supression of free speech and thought, which doesn't at all apply here - even though you wanted to muzzle us back then for no better reason than you liking little glu-glu.

Is that too ad hominem for you, MINK? I also remember when you took us to task for ad homs, even though you have used the word "retarded" to describe people and points of view you don't like more than anyone I've ever met. Just look here people, and tell I'm wrong about that. For a condescending elitist your vocabulary isn't worth a shit, minky.

This is not about McCarthyism. It is about nothing more than dealing with a fucking troll because he is doing typical trollish shit. He is not making any thoughtful or valid arguments, and his negative contributions to this place far exceed anything positive he has brought. He is just creating a shitstorm of controversy. That is all he wants, and that is all he has ever wanted here. In other words he is just a fucking troll.

2. Screw you choggie. I used to like you at one time. Now you are just a spiteful and petty troll with sock puppets who like to use taboo words like nigger and camel jockey. Dag had to redact that second comment for many reasons. I am sure the use of "camel jockey" was one of the them. Now I know why CP420 likes you so well. Birds of a feather flock together.

3. Dag and lucky: Why wasn't CP420 banned after this comment? Seriously. According to former admin James Roe you haved purged users for racism. How is this different? I am a heterosexual male with a black father and a white mother, but I would have been offended no worse if CP420 had described black people as "losers" instead of gays. Both insults are just as bad. If you think I am wrong then tell me how.

You have banned members for troop bashing:

http://www.videosift.com/talk/Can-I-get-a-ban-admins-Please

And for general douchebaggery:

http://www.videosift.com/member/iloseatlife

So what makes CP420 so special? The gold star next to his name? I think you owe the members of this community - the community you founded - an explanation that involves more than "tolerance." Tolerance is great. That doesn't mean we have to allow Fred Phelps to start posting comments, does it? As far as this particular case goes, are you going to allow CP420 to smear Muslims by portraying them as scheming cabalists who are trying to destroy a neo-con hero? For the sake of argument, let's say there was a "Judaism" channel. What if every time someone posted a video about the banking industry - and there are lot of those lately - someone used the Judaism tag? Would that not be offensive to Jews? The great Zionist conpiracy LIE of the past has been transformed into the great Muslim conspiracy LIE of the present. Please explain if you disagree.

This is just a web site with a relatively small number of members who want a respectful community. If I remember you didn't want this place to become like YouTube. Yet here we are.

If my questions sound too demanding I really do not care. I have not been here for a long time anyway so you can ban me for all I care. The only reason I am here now is because I am currently staying with a friend right now who is still a member, and curiosity got the best of me so I logged in. I almost wish I hadn't now. Maybe you are wishing the same thing too.

4. To everyone else: If dag and lucky don't get rid of CP420 all I can suggest is to never vote for his videos again EVER, and any time he ever writes something even remotely stupid - all the time - downvote it. He does it all the time to you. Return the favor. He seems to delight in his role as a troll, so treat him as such. He deserves no better.

5. To CaptainPlanet420: Fuck you youngling. You are a fucking coward who feels tough by taking on an entire VIRTUAL community. Would you talk the same shit to REAL people at a gay pride parade, or at a gathering of Muslims? Don't answer that, youngling. You will only embarrass yourself. It is what you do best.

*promote for further discussion

"We look pretty sharp, in these clothes....
Unless we get sprayed, with a hose....
It doesn't matter in the day, if they sprays it your way, 'cept in the winter, when it's froooooze....and it's HARD, when it hits, on your nose.....

Knockin' the Jockeys, off the lawns....

>> ^NetRunner:
@thepinky, so Limbaugh's a saint, and those jokes weren't in bad taste because they were jokes intended to put words in the mouths of Democrats, and hence the offensive things he said are really the Democrats' fault, because they are the racists, in Limbaugh's opinion?
You then wonder why people downvote your comments?
Limbaugh would happily call you a feminazi, for daring to speak on his behalf.
Don't be offended by my saying that; it's Limbaugh's fault.
OPEN YOUR MIND -- and your eyes and ears too while you're at it.


No, he's not. In fact, I thoroughly dislike Limbaugh. Please see comment above. However, there is a difference between "jokes in bad taste" made by a shock jockey and taken out of context and McCain's immigration policy.

However, I see that I can't make you see that Obama is not perfect when it comes to ads. Please go about your business downvoting comments and videos that oppose you and forget that I ever dared to point out that Obama is a politician.

so conflicted...I can see mocking the style, but gotta respect learning and skills. This desk jockey wishes he had more of his granddads/stepdad's knowhow.

Why does this kind of shit soak up time on the floor ?
Its a non-issue..some shock jockey talking crap, what a waste of time.
Do your goddamn job you useless fucks and fix the constitution.

This is a prime example of what REAL racial divides in America mean today. Jesse Jackson can get away with saying "i wanna cut his nuts off" and walk away with little repercussion. Now if sayyy Don Imus said anything close to this there would be black and white folks protesting in the streets demanding his blood!!

So why is it not ok for a shock-jockey like Imus who's profession actually SHOULD involve saying things like this(not promoting Barak nut cutting, just shock-jockeys in general) and somehow it's ok for the reverend *cough* JJ to say it????

Oh what its not enough those puck hittin, syrup drinking bastards have their Thanksgiving first, now they gotta have their day of national celebration first too? What's next you delicious beer brewin, health care havin, same sex tolerating snow jockey's, Christmas in September?

I mean, um, Woo go Canada!!

Those soldiers would have shit their pants if it was american people in that car.

This is bullshit.

Deep sadness over the accident? More lies.

I can tell you what happened, they saw the car coming, and opened fire with out warning. They shined the light on the car to blind the passengers so that they could not return fire.

You heard him, "I had a friend die the when a car wouldn't stop..." Discipline Soldier exercise it. There was no warning, only kill. This is how it works. I work with some reservists, from OIF and OIL, and one from Afghanistan they each tell the same story, but then again I'm not media. One of whom never saw combat at all during the first part of the war, and another who saw operations with mercenaries.

I grew up around this kind of stuff,this is what they call acceptable loss. I was taught by retired soldiers wars like these are a waste of life, and the resources that they use.

Also this is the normal FUBAR SNAFU.

Some desk jockey couldn't get the Intel to the guys at the checkpoint, that negroponte was safe and secure at Charlie Victor. Therefore a communication break down, and I would venture to say Criminal Negligence under the US Rule of Law.

no dag, that's a cheap shot, of COURSE i don't think that my personal tastes should match exactly the things that escape the queue. But the slogan here is * quality control, not * upvote competition.

i don't expect the top 15 to be full of my favourite vids, but i also don't expect a newbie to come along with a perfectly good quality vid, within the rules, and get discarded after 48 hours because not enough people even saw the thing, let alone voted.

IMO the only things that should die in the queue should be porn, snuff, boring vlog shit, spam, low bitrate recompressed inaudible phonecam rubbish, etc etc.

Then, once the bad quality is sifted out, we can all have a pissing contest about trying to get into the top 15.

but at the moment, the pissing contest is in the queue already. hence the title jockeying and favouritism. that's the problem. the queue shouldn't be about choosing what is a "good" video, it should be a chance for the crap to be sifted out before the pissing contest. basically if you are going to have a 2 day queue then the escape limit should be 5. then queue escape simply becomes more objective... "five people think this is siftworthy, but it might not be top 15 material, we'll see". if you're worried about starpoint dilution, just leave the starpoint threshold at 10 upvotes.

I first posted it upon watching the "Top Viral Vids of 2007" on Attack of the Show (on the G4 channel), and figured that like all the other year-end listings deciding the best stuff just prior to the actual end of the year, my listing would just be a fun bit of info and that'd be it.

It's only because of popular demand that I'm now going to have to re-do it for the full end of the year. I meant and would have been happy to keep my initial list as the "final" list.

I hope it's not that people are down-voting your vids in an attempt to jockey for position of their own vids... That would be a shame.

In reply to this comment by smibbo:
actually, I wish I had not upvoted the idea before thinking about it. Since you posted that, I've gotten a few downvotes on my top vids. Hmm...



In reply to this comment by lucky760:
Let's do something new with this whole comment voting thing and give democracy a try in a new way.

If you want to replace the above listing of top 100 videos with a new listing once the clock strikes midnight on Jan 1, 2008, vote this comment up. If you think the listing should remain as is as of Dec 27, 2007, vote this comment down.

Finally, those brazen space jockeys are accurately branded with a thrilling montage of overlapping frames and flamboyant orchestration.