A lot of those clips are from "Jesus Camp", not the kind of thing that a churchgoer would watch

I like anti-Zionist Jews, I've always thought that the creation of Israel was the wrong thing to do. Given enough time I think Jews would have been able to live in Palestine side by side with the Muslims.

I've always found it ironic how Evangelical Christians have all these different things that will cause the fall of the US, when their brand of lunacy is more likely to bring us down. They spread ignorance and intolerance and those are far more damaging to society.

And you should all watch Jesus Camp if you want to be scared out of your skull.

don't mention it

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Thanks for the attempt

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*promote?

Thanks for the attempt

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*promote?

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*promote

I love it when folks try to come up with "scientific" explainations for why they think homosexual behavior is wrong. They are rationalizing their religious baggage. I argue this all time..... Once you dismiss your religious indoctrination, then what is the big deal?

The last morsel they hang on to is parenting. Kids need a mother and a father. Bull. There are so many crappy natural parents. Who could deny two hard working, loving, committed adults to the chance of loving a child... especially one that needs a home? Who are we to take that from them?
I'll put even money on a couple like that to raise my child than two 25 year old heteros that got married for the baby, then divorced in 3 years.. or worse yet, your batshit crazy 'Jesus Camp' types!

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footage from "Jesus Camp".

http://www.videosift.com/video/Jesus-camp-full-movie

Its just the sequel.

^ yeah, i distinctly remember that clip, when it was first released.

i also recall the all-too-predictable backlash, when it hit the front page, from conservatives, christians, o'reilly fans, etc. "disgraceful brainwashing of children, blahblahblah."

guessing none of those people saw Jesus Camp.

The description on RichardDawkins.net reads: "A Letter From Hell

You've heard of the "Jesus Camp" and "Hell House" scare tactics used on children? Well, here's another addition to this unfortunate list. My 12 year old son (a non-believer all by himself, without any help from me) was given this link by a school friend who's going around trying to convert his classmates to Christianity. This video "A Letter From Hell" is a truly frightening, scare-the-kids-into-believing 'message'. A warning: It will both anger and sicken you.

Humbly submitted for your viewing displeasure,
~Carmine Bello
(Double Bass Atheist)"

Pretty lame that kids are sending this to kids. Can't they just be left alone until they are old enough to make up their own minds.

Jesus fucking Christ did i just hear that right?! Its like the end of Jesus Camp where the head religious nut says Democracy is flawed because it wants equality and ultimately has to go. Is evolution working backwards? Hell I think there is a new theory in the works, either that or Darwin was wrong and from this clip he might of been

written by joedirt
"I do hope I can tell others about Christ while I am here

Heck, I haven't even mentioned Jesus (ED -- see above for "mention" of JC)

I try to help both Atheists and Theists with my video and now I am being told that I am pushing my beliefs on others. (ED -- see above for mention of desire to push beliefs)

As for telling others about Christ while I am here, I refuse to just act like I don't care whether or not people know Christ (ED -- Unless you are equally open getting to "know" other entities like Mohammed or Buddha or Vishnu or Satan... I'm guessing people don't come to this website to "know Christ" or in any way be converted)


Look, you are welcome to submit videos. Please follow the guidelines and submit interesting videos you found on YouTube or wherever and not ones you uploaded, as you semi-imply ownership of the inspirational limbless guy.

I do appreciate your comments regaring Jesus Camp bowler girl. I'm surprised you haven't seen the movie. It is interesting regardless of your views of evangelicals.

Submit more Christian videos into the queue and don't complain there isn't enough. Probably just not enough interest as most people are saturated with living in Christian nations. You may even make a first post that says, "please keep this discussion civil" on your submitted posts.

But, again, you have no way to demand people remain civil especially with you alterior motives, which for those who have been around awhile can spot like... well like the letter "t" in your avatar.


I didn't tell anyone they're going to Hell. I never even talked about Jesus! Why am I receiving so much fuss over something I haven't even done as of yet?!
You know the sketchy looking teenager who is pacing nervously in a store, looking aroun shiftily. That is you, and we all know where this is going...."
Fine, I mentioned his name, but don't act like I have been pushing my beliefs on others. Telling people about Christ and forcing my beliefs on others are two totally idfferent things. I said I would be here if anyone wanted to know about him. If someone wants to hear it I will be here. I did not, however, say I would force anything on anyone.

Who said I wasn't open? Do not assume to already know me. I certainly will not be as hostile to others wishes to share their faith as you have mine.
I never complained there wasn't enough. I simply stated that I thought there was a need for it and asked if there was anybody interested. I wasn't blaming anybody here for not posting enough "Christian" videos. I just wanted to contribute.

I have no alterior motives. What? Do I have alterior motives simply because I openly profess my faith? Do you just assume that any Christian willing to share their faith has alterior motives? I already said I wouldn't force anything on anyone. I will answer questions, maybe submit a video that helps explains the Bible, but I will not do that where and when it is not wanted. Geez, as for my avatar that's the picture I use for my myspace. I like that avatar because I photoshoped it. Here is my myspace. http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=79915810

What is your problem? Why can't people be civil? Why would the fact that I open profess my faith be a problem with people being civil?

Look again at how you are handling this. I have done nothing wrong. I have withheld nothing. Yet you accuse me of alterior motives.

Why? Because I might actually be honest about what I believe? I really hope this isn't the way this site treats all of it's new members.

written by pipp3355
"1. I wouldn't use an ad hominem attack if I was trying to make a coherent and logically robust argument about something.

2. I like raw data, examples and evidence. They are the bread and butter of hypothesis testing and epistemology. I am science-bias in this sense. I prefer ideas / theories / opinions / arguments that are falsifiable and that can be verified to those that are not and cannot be. Specifically, I'm most interested in information which helps us best manipulate our environment/brains/bodies to our evolutionary advantage.

3. Given 1 and 2, I think I'm a believer in scientific method and rational skepticism before I'm a believer in atheism or mind-body materialsm or anything of that ilk."
Umm. Who is #1 directed at?
I can't blame you for #2. I am mostly the same way, minus that last bit on manipulation of our eniviorment.
So you are agnostic?

Hmm. Tell me where you think we came from.
Oh and happy birthday, mine was wednesday. lol.

I do hope I can tell others about Christ while I am here

Heck, I haven't even mentioned Jesus (ED -- see above for "mention" of JC)

I try to help both Atheists and Theists with my video and now I am being told that I am pushing my beliefs on others. (ED -- see above for mention of desire to push beliefs)

As for telling others about Christ while I am here, I refuse to just act like I don't care whether or not people know Christ (ED -- Unless you are equally open getting to "know" other entities like Mohammed or Buddha or Vishnu or Satan... I'm guessing people don't come to this website to "know Christ" or in any way be converted)

Look, you are welcome to submit videos. Please follow the guidelines and submit interesting videos you found on YouTube or wherever and not ones you uploaded, as you semi-imply ownership of the inspirational limbless guy.

I do appreciate your comments regaring Jesus Camp bowler girl. I'm surprised you haven't seen the movie. It is interesting regardless of your views of evangelicals.

Submit more Christian videos into the queue and don't complain there isn't enough. Probably just not enough interest as most people are saturated with living in Christian nations. You may even make a first post that says, "please keep this discussion civil" on your submitted posts.

But, again, you have no way to demand people remain civil especially with you alterior motives, which for those who have been around awhile can spot like... well like the letter "t" in your avatar.

I didn't tell anyone they're going to Hell. I never even talked about Jesus! Why am I receiving so much fuss over something I haven't even done as of yet?!

You know the sketchy looking teenager who is pacing nervously in a store, looking aroun shiftily. That is you, and we all know where this is going....

I apologize for a double post, but what I wanted to say seemed to beig to be processed in one post.

written by joedirt

"As for any hidden agenda, I have none. I admit, I do hope I can tell others about Christ while I am here, but I will not be sneaky about it. "


"ZOMG!! We really are not in need of saving around here. I realize some people have a calling, and those people should go watch the evangelical bowling girl video.

If you want to peddle God to us, fine, just don't demand we be civil. If you want to have a civil discussion about religion, fine, just don't go around pushing your beliefs and Christian whatever as more correct, or needing to be given equal weight of sensititivity whatever. Once you used the term 'believer' you showed your hand as a concern troll trying to improve some level of discourse.

Look, this site has tons of debate, politics, religion, islam, asian, GodTube videos. Just because it is not 90% Team Jesus is probably more a reflection that the world is in fact a world where Christians are a minority, and you can take your one correct answer and spread the word somewhere where people have time to care."
What have I pushed so far? Nothing so much as that we should try to be civil to each other and that neither theists nor atheists can prove their beliefs to be truth through logic. No as for whether or not my beliefs desrve equal respect, that is up to you to decide. All I asked however is that we not attack each other. That we be civil. I really don't see why I am getting all this flak for just hoping that we can get along.

As for telling others about Christ while I am here, I refuse to just act like I don't care whether or not people know Christ, but I will force nothing on anybody. If someone wants to hear it I will be here. Other than that, no, I won't be hitting everyone over the head with a Bible. Come on, give me a little credit here!

Look, I have lurked here for a while. I know there are tons of videos on religion. I noticed that any dealing with Christianity were either there to be made fun of or when someone actually tried to be civil about anything, some lets say less than civil comments where left about anyone who believed. I don't think that has to be the case. I want to help people try to understand Christianity a little better. Maybe then they won't be so quick to bash it believers.

On a side note that video you spoke of here, this is just sad. The girl in this video is simply to young to even begin to fanthom God. This is just plain brainwashing. They have instilled in her some of the rethoric, quotes, and bible verses, but she has no clue what any of it means. She just wants to try...something. She is still too young to make that kind of decision for herself and I really think that someone forced her into this thing and just brainwashed her. Unless a child that age has experienced the death of someone close to them, they really won't think about God or the Bible. I think she is really got in emotion more than the Holy Spirit. This troubles me...
Does anyone have any more information on this?

written by swampgirl
"silentpoet said: "Yes, I am new around here."

No kidding! Just coming back here after a day since you posted. I noticed the "P" still here. I have to take issue with that. The folks here normally never discourage a new member, but this time I have to.

It doesn't matter what your mission is whether it's saving the world or making sure everyone's wearing matching socks. You're not even a member yet..you just look like a glorified troll right now.

So.... (in "Christ" of course ) please... shut up, put up ...and gather a few ears that wants to hear before you wear you welcome out before you even get started."
Geez, I already stated above I would post some toher videos. Just give me some time. I have been busy. Besides, I cannot post another video til my first one gets through.

written by joedirt
"For silentpoet: Look in a irony mirror dude...


http://www.videosift.com/video/8-Reasons-Why-I-Dont-Share-My-Faith"
See? That is what I am talking about. I have yet to preach anything from the Bible. All I asked is that we try to be civil, and it is like I did something horrible. I didn't throw anything in your face. I didn't tell anyone they're going to Hell. I never even talked about Jesus! Why am I receiving so much fuss over something I haven't even done as of yet?!