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newtboy (Member Profile)

eric3579 says...

Me too, about looking homeless. Although it's cos the clothes i love the most, comfort wise, I've been wearing forever and tend to be quite tattered. Lots of little holes in my hoodies. Although i would rather have people ignore me, so i dont mind any lack of attention i might be garnering in general. However if i was injured i'm guessing i'd like a little help.

newtboy said:

I'm not trying to impress anyone, so often look like I'm homeless, now I'm seeing that that could determine how people act around me.

Key & Peele: Hoodie

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If You Don’t Think U Have Any Racial Prejudices Watch This

Payback says...

Prejudice is not racism. It's "pre-judging" usually based on facts not in evidence. Racism is a form of prejudice.

Thinking 5 males of South American descent, in a lowered '64 Impala, dressed in similar colours -including bandannas and hoodies- listening to heavy Spanish-influenced gangsta rap, may be police officers going to a masquerade ball, but most people's prejudice would label them as probably gang-related.

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bmacs27 says...

I agree, I restricted my point to things that can easily be changed. That was intentional. Those were the sorts of comments she was complaining about (e.g. that she's being "intentionally unattractive"). Men would receive similar criticism. If straight up sinewy stud wore baggy assed stained hoodies to his weatherman job, or thick rimmed glasses and a pocket protector with suspenders then a handful of people would give him shit for it. I promise you. They would. A handful more will talk about how they don't give a fuck and want to jump on his magnetic pole. The rest will talk about how they hate "wintery mix."

You seem to miss my point. I think it's demeaning to suggest that being sexualized is the problem, or even that it is gendered. Cat calls, come ons and so forth should be seen for what they are. Compliments. The problem is exactly what you said in the last paragraph. What you look like, and the value of what you say should be seen as completely orthogonal dimensions. Unfortunately, in this world they aren't. That's lame.

shatterdrose said:

Men aren't judged by looks as much as women. And you're talking about clothing and things easily adjusted, such as shaving. Both of those are generally considered unkept, for good looking men or ugly men. Has nothing to do with physical merit.

Plus, if you look at, for instance, TV Anchors, how many of those men are in super good shape? Especially sports announcers. How many overweight men do you see on tv, and how many over weight women? Save for Candy, of course. (Wasn't her name Candy? Cindy? Mandy? Andy? Damn I'm bad with names grrr) Point stands, women are held to a much higher standard for physical attractiveness than men in order to be considered "worthwhile" or "have anything relevant to say".

The Gravity Gun

Woman thinks all postal workers are after her

JustSaying jokingly says...

You're right, these people are crazy. Better build a wall around Florida. It's full of creepy people who'd murder you for insane reasons. Better leave your hoodie at home.

newtboy said:

If this was in Florida, someone might shoot her standing their ground. I might if she accosted me like that, blocking me into my vehicle while making insane ranting accusations.

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Chairman_woo says...

With that in mind here's a list of people that make me variously: scared, uncomfortable, upset and sometimes outright angry. I find it deeply unpleasant and sometimes disturbing to have to deal with them and I think life would be a lot better if we just locked them away.

Police
Politicians
Pro-lifers
Anyone who watches X-factor
Anyone who doesn't think the British royal family are murderous tyrants.
People who play music on their phone speakers on the bus/walking down the street.
People that use the term "free country" without irony.
The unregulated hyper rich over class.
Rugby players on a night out drinking.
People that advocate the death penalty.
Hyper nationalists.
Xenophobes, Racists and Homophobes.
The priesthood of amen/the brotherhood of shadow.
Young people in tracksuits/hoodies.
Anyone that uses the word "party" as a verb.
Practising Christians, Muslims and Jews (doubly so if they are raising their children religiously).
Hyper-Atheists.
Chimpanzees! (seriously, fuck the chimps they scare the shit out of me)
People that use the phrase "I just don't give a fuck" and actually mean it.
The Chinese scientists developing the "death robots" (you might laugh now....)

Whilst some are clearly more serious than others, all of the above represent things/traits which deeply concern me. Many of the people on that list I'd label as outright insane and/or seriously dangerous to my health and well being.

Some, were I to be confronted by them unexpectedly, would outright terrify me, much more so than that lady. There's a good chance that by simply responding with concern and a lack of antagonism she could have been talked down, but certainly pulling an incredulous expression and calling her a crazy lady is not likely to diffuse the situation one iota.

As I said before maybe she is a genuine danger to herself and others, such people do exist and there are systems in place to try and deal with it.

The issue here is that your not even remotely in a position to make that diagnosis, nor are any of us here. We don't know how serious her condition is or how likely she is to respond to various forms of treatment. Speculating based only on video's made during episodes (i.e. at her worst) with no context of her medical history just fuels the kind of knee jerk "lock them away" mindset that contributes heavily to these poor bastards getting the way they are in the 1st place.

For all you know a bit of in the community C.B.T. and mentoring might be all she needs/needed. Not everyone displaying psychotic symptoms benefits from or warrants full on institutional incarceration, it often makes things much worse.
She clearly needs/needed further investigation and perhaps having the benefit of her medical history and first hand interaction it might be reasonable to conclude that some form of isolation is needed. But I'd rather leave that down to those who are professionally qualified to make that judgement than bystanders who merely witnessed a few isolated psychotic episodes and know sweet F.A. about her as a person.

It's you that's failing to see the bigger picture here. You want to put her in a neat little box marked "crazy" so you don't have to face the implication that in some fundamental sense you are the same thing. The crazy person sits next to you on the bus and you think "I don't deserve to have to put up with this inconvenience. How dare they make me feel uncomfortable".......

....Do you have the remotest idea of the kind of deep lasting damage that does to a person when virtually everyone they ever meet thinks and behaves that way? How it feels for someone to just condemn you to be locked away without even attempting to understand what your all about?

It's only about 50 years ago that it was standard practice to basically label everything as just various forms of "madness" and lock them all away in the same building. While we've come along way there's still very much a ways to go and the public perception of acute psychotic illnesses is by far the most backwards.

If you'd said maybe she might need institutional treatment, or that you had concerns that the behaviour she displays could escalate to a violent incident (both legitimate concerns) then I wouldn't have reacted with such hostility.
But you didn't do that, you outright declared she that must be forcibly segregated and treated and moreover that she is definitely a danger to herself and others. No grey area, isolation is the only alternative!

I don't want this to descend into a personal attack, you might after all be a really nice person and this is a deeply rooted prejudice common to most people I come across. Much like many peoples homophobia isn't especially malicious it's just an unchallenged social convention (one fortunately that is changing).
But malicious or not the damage done is the same, for crazies, ethnic minorities and homosexuals alike. And I don't think its unfair to say that the "crazies" are the more vulnerable group by quite some margin.

You don't begrudge offering a little time and understanding for say a disabled person holding you up in a door way, why is taking a little step back when confronted with a "crazy" person so different? That postie clearly recognised she wasn't occupying the same reality as himself very quickly, but his response is to pull a face that says "what the fuck is your problem?" and just dismisses her as crazy. She might have calmed down and gone away peacefully in the space of a few mins if he'd tried to diffuse it, but he didn't, he escalated immediately. (because he's mentally ill too, just in a different way)
That's basically like someone getting in your way, you realizing its because they are in a wheel chair and then treating them like an arsehole because they had the indecency to be out in public and get in the way of the able bodied people! Those bloody cripples, they should be taken away for their own protection! (the fact the rest of us don't have to worry about dealing with them any more is just a bonus naturally )

Now obviously this is a somewhat flawed analogy as people with mobility impairments don't have heightened rates/likelihood of violent outbursts (though I'm sure there are plenty twats who just happen to be in wheelchairs). But the fundamental point I'm trying to make about how people treat the extravertly mentally ill stands. If your being directly threatened with no provocation is one thing, but this guy isn't he's just antagonising someone in a clear state of paranoia and delusion/misunderstanding (which he recognises within seconds). He doesn't even attempt to address that he just closes off and becomes passively hostile.
As I said before its understandable, but only in the same way as being frightened of homosexuality, alien cultures, physical disfigurement etc.. It's just cultural isolation, get to know a few people from any of those groups and it quickly starts to sublime into respect and understanding.

She didn't walk up to him screaming she walked up and firmly presented an accusation that the postman knew could not possibly have been true. She became aggressive/shouty only after he became dismissive, before that she was only restless and paranoid. And even then she didn't make any aggressive physical moves we can see. Postie doesn't look at all in fear for his safety to me, he turns his back on her several times and barely maintains eye contact, not the behaviour of someone that feels physically threatened!

How might she have reacted if postie had looked genuinely scared? Maybe she'd have backed off? Changed her attitude? And yeh maybe she'd have got even more threatening or attacked him with a stick too.

We don't know what she'd have done because we don't know her or anything about her other than a few paranoid videos on the internet. Leave the judgements to the people that have done the research, interviews etc. and know know what the fuck they are talking about with regards to this lady's condition and best treatment.

Speculation is one thing, outright declarations of fact is quite another. People are not guilty before you can prove their innocence...

Rawhead said:

be discussed. it really doesn't make since to me how you can only look at it through her eyes. what about this mailman, who is just sitting there doing his job, then suddenly this insane woman come up to you screaming in your face? telling you your stalking her? and sounding like she going to do something violent? YES! they are "FUCKING PEOPLE"! but their people who need to be taken out of society for their own good and others around them. take your blinders off and look at the whole picture.

George Zimmerman Trial - (Adam Buckley's View)

Yogi says...

What do you mean "But" I didn't say he was guilty. I specifically said nobody knows that he's guilty, and that you can't prove that he's guilty.

I would add though, that he would've most likely been found guilty if not shot on the scene by the cops if he was black. Someone pointed out that he could understand how Zimmerman could be found not guilty in the eyes of the law, but he's probably morally culpable at least for Martins death.

I was watching Louis CKs bit earlier today called "Of course, but maybe."

Of course Zimmerman has the right to defend himself, of course. But MAYBE, Maybe if you get out of your car to confront someone because of their race, you deserve to get the shit kicked out of you.

Of course Martin wasn't doing anything wrong by carrying skittles and wearing a hoody of course of course. But MAYBE, Maybe if you're black you should always wear a bright glow in the dark t-shirt and a permanent smile on your face."

gwiz665 said:

But in the eyes of the law, the end result is not enough to judge the man guilty - since Stand Your Ground exists, motive is an essential part of judging.

Going on pure hard evidence is impossible because of what you said yourself only Martin and Zimmerman was there.

I don't doubt that race was one of the reasons Zimmerman even got after him and I also don't doubt that it was an indirect motivator for the Jury to decide him Not Guilty. That said, the law doesn't really care what I think.

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JustSaying says...

I find it terribly funny how everybody gets upset at this. Did you really expect your justice system to be fair? America is the world leader in jailing its own population and yet even the most obvious criminal behaviour (yes, I'm looking at you, Wall Street) isn't even investigated.
It doesn't matter who's at fault here. It's doesn't matter if hoodies are lethal weapons or listening to the police is a bad idea. The fact is that laws that allow these killings to happen in the first place are wrong, that's what matters. Like in many other cases we discuss the people involved in a problem, not the problem itself. I don't give a shit about George Zimmerman, he has blood on his hands one way or another. I don't care where Ed Snowden is hanging out right now either. I care about laws that give others easy excuses to murder me, I care about the invasion of my privacy. I care about the issues not the people bringing them to our attention.
If I gave a shit about Zimmerman, I'd tail him until he notices and confronts me and then I'd blow his brains out. "I was scared, I thought he was armed and would shoot me, so I shot first. Stand your ground."
But he's just a diversion.

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ulysses1904 says...

Nice video but it really needs to be re-edited and slowed down, with dissolves between the pictures. It came across more like a speed-reading test rather than a powerful presentation of some very emotional scenes.

But kudos for not seeing the word "iconic" to describe the pictures. That word came out of nowhere this past year and now I can't read a news story without something being referred to as "iconic", whether it's Trayvon Martin's hoodie, McDonald's golden arches or the President's left butt cheek.

When an actress who played one of Scarlett O'Hara's younger sisters died recently, the news story referred to her "iconic" role as the younger sister. Iconic? I don't think she had more than 3 lines in the whole freaking movie. It's just one of those irritating words that the media grabs ahold of one day and then journalistic hacks use it to death, along with quintessential, crooner, diva, etc. etc.

But I digress. Thanks for posting this.

The Hipster Song

Imagoamin says...

....Seriously? Graphic tees? Starbucks? Hoodies? These aren't hipsters. They're young people. Unless you're wearing a handlebar moustache, a hitler youth haircut, or a pork pie hat (to name the biggest offenders), you're not fitting into the "hipster" category.



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