As a far-left Liberal, I 100% agree with Bill on this point. I understand the underlying idea behind PC -- that all people deserve respect and shouldn't be singled out for ridicule for things they can't help -- but the execution of this idea has been a disaster.

Nobody likes it when someone shouts out, "I'm a victim!" when they're obviously not. It demeans real victims, lessens the gravity of the word and concept of "victim", and makes the person calling themselves a victim not so much that term as the term "Cry-baby". Thus it makes all the people in the class (Liberals) generally associated with that group (whiners) look like specials snowflakes pleading for special, and unearned, treatment.

So if identifying new species of victim-hood is going to be your principle reason for existing, then you'd better expect to lose and lose often.

@enoch,

I don't have any opinion on what Hedges says because I didn't take the time to listen to him...

Here was my bigger take away, an article posted by RT that is criticising negative press for Russia immediately gets filtered into my 99% likely hood of being misleading, either by outright lies or more often lies of omission.

Now, that filter got bypassed a bit seeing a recommendation from someone I deemed thoughtful on things. So, I went and did a 5 second google on the subject and found red flags immediately, so then I stopped again.

And Noam Chomsky has fallen off the rails IMHO. He's never going to lie, and he is incredibly intelligent, well reasoned and thoroughly knowledgeable. The catch is he is also biased in the sense of presenting everything he says over the last decade plus through the filter of American exceptionalism. He'll present mountains of accurate and compelling evidence of everything wrong about American foreign policy and the horrible impacts it has all around the world. Trouble is, he'll maybe give 2 sentences on the pre-American period or the alternative of American inaction.

In fact, as I wrote this I was going to blindly espouse that Chomsky's world view would council in favour of Clinton's inaction on Rwanda even with full hindsight. That prompted me to google for Chomsky's actual opinion on it, which led immediately to the fact that Chomsky wrote the forward for a book denying that the victims of Rwandan genocide were Tutsi but instead that they were in fact it's architects...

Upvote for offensive use of bottle rockets. Haven't seen that since I was a kid, in my white & Mexican hood.

You said it, I didn't. I am well aware that both black and white kids can come from the "hood".

So they're "Hoods" because they're black?

White kids play with fireworks too. What do you call them? Boys will be boys, kids blowing off steam, or something even more innocuous?

Is there a #racism tag? Not for the video, for the OP.

I'm not a destructive or vindictive guy by nature, but if I've made up my mind to steal a hood ornament and the fucker retracts like this, my keys are coming out, no doubt.

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Good to see you visit the old hood every once in a while

Just another day in the hood.

Where is Jessie, Al and the BLM when you need them?

Home eating Cheetos.

I guess that's where we differ.

I find it funny precisely because such things really happen.

In a world where no such cruelty exists, I think this kind of material would then become empty and pointless. Comedy thrives on the defiance of our misery.

I dare say it would get less of a laugh in Sweden for this very reason.

I'm clearly in the minority here, but then I suspect few people have developed the same sense of cynical detachment I have (working with the severely mentally I'll and dieing will do that to you).

The humour is definitely there, I guess you just need a suitably fucked up perspective to appreciate it.

Out of curiosity, did you find Jim's old bit about the child getting shot when he was in Iraq funny? I might suggest that is an even more cruel and fucked up situation than the subject matter being discussed here.

Would that only become funny when children are no longer victims of wars? Or is it funny precisely because of the incomprehensible cruelty and misfortune underlying it?

Perhaps you have an easier time detaching yourself from something that isn't as likely to happen to you? This seems reasonable, but I don't see how it precludes such material from being funny, only more challenging for one to engage with. (and thus more powerful if one can do so)

To bring in a thread from another reply "And this is the brilliance of Louis -- that he lays bare the humanity of even pedophiles. The truth of pedophiles."

In what sense is Jim not doing the same thing here? He is flippantly exploring Cosby's desire to victimise women, we all have desires and sometimes act on those impulses when we shouldn't.
Rape is an extreme example, but the thought process is ultimately the same thing writ large. "I want a thing I can't have, but I'm doing it anyway".
I might argue he is laying bare the universal human condition in just the same way, albeit with something closer to home for most people than paedophilia.

Presumably it's the other thread that's proving challenging, i.e. the masochistic idea of enjoying ones abuse? And again, there is something deeply fucked up at the heat of the human condition here. Deriving pleasure from victim hood, or having messed up priorities about fame and opportunity.
Stockholm syndrome, abused partners loving their spouses, groupies allowing themselves to be abused just to be near their idols.

We are really that fucked up as a species sometimes, cognitive dissonance is almost a way of life for most of us in our own little ways. It's clearly a deeply risque subject, but there is something dark at the core of the human condition there none the less.

The actual victims don't need to have the kind of mixed up priorities Jim is alluding to, we only have to recognise that we posses the capacity for that dissonance ourselves. (The joke being at the expense of our own inherent hypocrisies, not specific victims)

The only big difference I can really see is that child rape is much rarer than the kind being discussed here. (and thus I suppose easier for most to detach themselves from)

Is it really any less horrific? Surely if anything it is far more terrible for most victims and usually seems to cause more damage to their lives.

How does Louis's material on Child rape remain funny in a world where children are raped, yet Jim's material about women being raped only become funny in a world where they do not get raped?

Paedophiles have a culture too. They form groups, exchange materials, praise each others work etc. etc. Not to mention grooming rings and other such reprehensible things.

I understand that a particular subject can strike too close to home, but for me that was my failing to rise above my own fears and traumas. When I finally got to a place where I could laugh at my own victim hood, it was one of the most liberating experiences of my life. (Don't get me wrong, that shit never completely goes away)

Somehow that light up hood ornament just makes me think of cheap Christmas decorations.

Yes, there is some chance of being injured or dying while doing almost anything at any time. Extreme statistical unlikely-hoods occur all the time and they are extremely difficult to protect against.

Comparing 400+ deaths a year (for example), while in pursuit of a biological requirement that all humans are required to do, and thus spend roughly 1/4 of their lives doing it, to 80,000+ no fatal injuries and 11,000 homicides from gun use is asinine to the extreme.

HA!!!!
The "rusted through" on my 70 Bronco had progressed to "rust held together by spit and paint" in many places...but many more were rusted through all the way around, like my hood which had no edge when I bought it. The windshield frame was only upright thanks to the glass, it peeled off by hand leaving me a windshield with no frame. I've since replaced both, but I still have at least one hole through every panel I haven't replaced. My front fenders are more rust than metal at this point. I have replacements, but I'm waiting for it to disassemble itself. ;-)

Batman the Animated Series is the first TV show I ever bought the DVDs for. It's the definitive Batman to me. The animated movies are great too, like Under The Red Hood, The Dark Knight Returns, and Mask of the Phantasm.