I'm pretty sure I get the point, I'm just trying to reconcile it with your other positions.

Explain to me the difference between Watchmen and this D&D thing. Watchmen is okay because it's not aimed at kids? Because it's intentional indoctrination perpetrated by the author, and not intentional indoctrination perpetrated by the author at the behest of others? Because it's actually well written?

I would agree that the "not aimed at kids" bit would make a difference, but with a bit of research I'm sure I could come up with a better counter example. I'm not so sure that first order indoctrination vs. second order indoctrination makes any kind of ethical difference though, just a difference in the quality of the resulting propaganda.

I guess I'm just trying to ferret out what you think the root ethical problem is.

LOL... this cat is ridiculous.

Not as ridiculous as the music.

Cat looks like it's part ferret.

Dupe:

http://www.videosift.com/video/Ferrets-kill-with-chainsaws

Unfortunately this one is much better quality though.

^That's the free market for you. You can thank our strong government for keeping them from continuing to sell it in the US (Edit: Before you fly off your libertarian handle, this is half-sarcasm).

I'm done, after this, but in reference to ^ ^ ^:

There is no evidence for 1 or 3 (in re: bio-engineered). I'm not sure about 4--you make it sound as if it was a race between staff experimenting on the ferrets before the drug got to market when really the ferret-testing was probably part of a screening test. I don't know their practices, though, so that's just conjecture.

As for 7, that is absolutely not what NSPD-51 says.

And most of the other points are manipulations of the facts.

Yall are really something else. The amount of trust you place in people you don't know is really quite amazing.

THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE. Or were these historical events "conspiracies" as well:

Baxter Pharmaceutical Mixed Deadly Avian Flu H5N1 with a Flu Vaccine about to be shipped to 180,000 people!
http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2009/02/27/8560781.html
"The contaminated product, a mix of H3N2 seasonal flu viruses and unlabelled H5N1 viruses, was supplied to an Austrian research company. The Austrian firm, Avir Green Hills Biotechnology, then sent portions of it to sub-contractors in the Czech Republic, Slovenia and Germany.

The contamination incident, which is being investigated by the four European countries, came to light when the subcontractor in the Czech Republic inoculated ferrets with the product and they died. Ferrets shouldn’t die from exposure to human H3N2 flu viruses. "

Bayer knowingly sold HIV-contaminated vaccines!
http://www.naturalnews.com/News_000647_Bayer_vaccines_HIV.html
"In 2006, it was discovered that Bayer found out a vaccine it was selling in the United States was accidentally contaminated with HIV.

In order to cover its tracks, say the journalists in this video (below), Bayer pulled the vaccines off the market and sold them to consumers in Japan, France, Spain and other countries, where hemophiliacs were then contaminated with HIV due to the vaccine."

Mandatory Polio vaccines contaminated with SV40, causes Cancer!
http://www.healthy.net/scr/Article.asp?Id=2703
"The sudden rise in the number of deaths from non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma may be linked to the polio vaccine given to children in the USA until 1963.

Researchers have found the polyomavirus known as simian virus 40 (SV40) in a large number of lymphoma sufferers - the same virus that was in the contaminated batch of polio vaccines.

The vaccine was prepared in rhesus monkey kidney cells, but some of the animals were infected with the SV40, which was then passed on to the vaccinated children. In all, millions of children from all 50 states were exposed to the virus from 1955 until 1963, when the vaccine was finally withdrawn.

Latent viruses were such a problem with primary monkey kidney cells that a worldwide moratorium on the licensing of all polio virus vaccines was called in 1967 because of death and illnesses that occurred in monkey kidney workers and vaccine manufacturing facilities"

Doc_M,

You wanna do the world a favor? Buy some off-the-shelf vaccines and do a complete chemical and biological analysis on them, and report your findings publicly. Unless you are giving us a technical lecture, or presenting experimental data, your opinion is really not worth any more than any of us non-virologists.

Ferrets, the penis of the animal world.

oh good lord, sent it to the ferret lady!!
..and possum ≠ rodent.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'kina grannis, cute, excellent singing, ferret allergies work in her favour' to 'kina grannis, cute, excellent singing, imogen, ferret allergies work in her favour' - edited by calvados

Turning off all filters did bring 5 of the missing 6 back. I didn't realize they were in effect on my own videos. But there is still one missing - weird. There was that one video you yanked because of a copyright claim from harvard a long while back, but I'm pretty sure the vid and star count was updated immediately then (that's why I was so confused at the time).

The star point discrepancy is definitely not due to dead pool fixes. I remember I stopped fixing deads (when they still gave star points) when I had exactly 46. I was approaching diamond status and didn't want 50+ star points from dead fixes. 248 vids + 7 quality talk posts + 46 dead fixes + 3 applauded comments = 304. I'm only mentioning this in case there are some further gremlins lurking in the db that you'll want to find.

Also in that vein, I noticed that the dead fix count reported on the profile page has changed. Prior to the crash, it reported (about?) 78, and now says 65. Perhaps that's related? Again, I don't really care about the number personally (there's a few hundred not reported from when only the ones that granted star points were counted), just trying to ferret out any possible db corruptions.

That's some frogging good steel drum playing! Don't know who it is, though... Among the others I recognize Randy Brecker on trumpet, Don Alias on percussion and Peter Erskine (with what looks like a ferret beneath his nose) on drums. I don't think I've seen eagle nose on sax before.

Dead video replaced.

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*dead

Obviously, he wouldn't have done it if a human were in danger, This is not driving 100mph through traffic, endangering others. I don't think anyone would begrudge this.

It's sad they arrived too late for two other kittehs. A ferret, some frogs and a couple dogs were also saved.

Seems it was arson. Two people who lived there have been arrested.

Womb Ferret... gold!

>> ^SaNdMaN:
^ What the heck are you talking about? The whole point is to surprise people that the person they've just seen explaining the technology is actually CGI. Did you think that the CGI demonstration was just the face turning red and black? That would be stupid and pointless.


The demonstration was showing that THE FACE was CG for the whole video.

Geebus.

They are showing that their motion tracking system is really great at FACES.

The rest is REAL.

You want proof? how about this?:

Using (USC's) Institute for Creative Technologies' special scanning system that can capture facial details down to the individual pore, the face of actress Emily O'Brien was transformed into a digital representation of herself, which could then be entirely machine-manipulated. A special spherical lighting rig captured O'Brien in 35 reference facial poses using a pair of high resolution digital cameras. The facial maps were then converted into 3D data using Image Metrics' proprietary markerless motion capture technology.

So... She watches the ferret try to crawl into the guitar for at least a minute, and when it succeeds without her intervention she says, "Damn it."