Given the recently leaked discussion about a false-flag attack to start a war with Syria, we're talking casus foederis here. Imagine the Turkish government pulls it off and invokes Article 5 of the NATO Treaty --- not a pleasant thought, is it?

Lunatics, everywhere!

It will only be a choice of one international criminal over another unless thoughtful citizens ditch both parties provided for anyone to vote for, and perform the voter's coup d'etat.....The naivete that you have a choice in the matter without taking a real choice, is a systemic disease.You are not alone in your inebriation on the political-Koolaid beverage.

Try smashing a few televisions and encourage others to do so. It's cathartic and will free your mind, Neo.

Anti-Obama people aren't trolls by the way @ChaosEngine-They're either seriously deluded into thinking that they are not in some sort of state of willful denial that the prescribed systems of electoral chicanery actually functions as they blindly assume as is spelled-out since they were kids in elementary school, or they can see through the ruse that is, a government by and for her peoples.

Lump me in such a simplistic and obtuse category as 'Obama-for-or-anti' and you may or not, recognize yourself in the former category.

If there's a 'guy' with his finger on the nuclear missile (otherwise known as a false-flag event), it's the same guy or guys who called-in the drone-strike. Who is the 'imaginary' guy you speak of?? Ask yourself, is the insane scenario your offered-up, even possible? Bad guys, good guys? Gimme a break, you're smarter than that.

I believe that "ignore" is the operative and self-delusional tag word here. Keep ignoring the obvious. Seems to work well for some to quell fear of the unknown.

'Republicans bad, democrats good', a broken-record and at least 10 other peep's in any room of folks' discussing politics-as-usual, comforting "safety phrase."

All it sounds like to me is apes in a cage, bellowing for a nutritive meal and the freedom to roam to find it for themselves.

It's 2014 lantern-five-three, nothings a fucking toss-up anymore....It's an insidious program.

Choice and chance are illusory in the political realm.

I try my best to avoid any personal attacks in my responses. I am pretty vicious in attacking certain ideas though. I know that comes across as combative, but if you can bear reading what I said again, the only point I tried to hold viciously to was that being MORE angry at America for supporting Saddam than at Saddam himself is flat out wrong. Holding a higher bar of expectations for America is great and helps America out, but the place for that is in judging what one expects America to be. Holding America to a different bar than Saddam or Assad though is a tremendous disservice to Syrian and Iraqi people.

What I'm trying to get across in the examples I listed and my defense of that position is that hordes of people point at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo and call for war crimes trials against Bush and Cheney. I agree with them, America should expect better of it's leaders. The trouble I have is when those same people then step forward and point at those same abuses and declare America no better than Saddam. That kind of ignorance is horrific, and when it's wrapped in the false flag of caring about Iraqi civilians I get mad.

The same applies to Raytheon, Assad and Syria. I share people's anger that people may be about to profit from death. I even share the belief that America is only considering involvement because it selfishly stands to gain. I even share the belief that American corporations like Raytheon are pushing only for what makes them money. I share the outrage at that. My trouble and what I am fighting to point out is why there is so much less outrage and indignation when Assad profits so much more, so much more directly, and by killing far more people? When within the very same conflict the voices damning America for considering a military attack are whispers when talking about Assad's own crimes it angers me. I don't feel it beneficial to point out that hypocrisy subtly.

If we want an example of what non-intervention is like, look no further than Africa. The DRC, Liberia, Somalia, Rwanda and on and on. I simply want to argue that people look at the entire picture instead of naively expecting America to act benevolently. That naivety wears on me even faster when it comes from those that knowingly submit evidence that America is no more benevolent than any other nation.

And to at long last answer your question, I believe targeted strikes against Assad will discourage his behavior in the only way that matters to him, by weakening him more than his attack strengthened him. It's why I point out Assad as no different than any other leader at his level. Their actions can predicted to be entirely based upon selfish gain and nothing else. If killing a million people with chemical weapons would end the war and give Assad back control,of his country he'd do it without a second thought. I am confident the only things that stay his hand is doubts that it would accomplish what he wants. On one side it would mean returning to running his country as his father had, and he may still hold out hope of avoiding that. More likely, he fears he doesn't have the support internally he needs to make such a push without someone else within his circle using the opportunity to usurp him. Circumventing those concerns is within Assad's power though, and all he needs is time. The other part staying his hand is the important one, that America or more likely Israel, is willing to launch counter attacks against his forces if he commits massacres on a great enough scale. I argue in favor of targeted strikes because they will weaken Assad and because that is the ONLY warning that will matter to him. Words become empty if this attack was ignored. Assad will escalate if he sees the chance, and then ignoring even larger attacks or delivering even harsher counter attacks become the choices.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'Boston Man Confronts Alex Jones Reporter' to 'Boston marathon, Alex Jones, Reporter, conspiracy theory, fbi, false flag' - edited by xxovercastxx

Try this:

http://www.businessinsider.com/boston-man-flips-out-alex-jones-false-flag-2013-4

Why is anyone listening to Alex Jones talk about anything, let alone put him on CNN?

This guy seriously believes that all the recent rampages are somehow staged "False Flag" attacks perpetrated by the Anti-Gun Establishment. Aurora, Gabby Giffords, Newtown. He'd have you believe that the government is programming disaffected teens to trigger into psychotic murderers like the Manchurian Candidate.

Seriously, what the fuck? Put him back on the street-corner with his card-board box and "The End is Nigh" sandwich board.

That almost looks like a false flag advertisement

I can imagine it being created by democrats "attacking" themselves in a way that makes the republicans look petty and makes their guy look pretty good.

Not actually claiming that conspiracy, but if you were going to do it, this is how it should be done

So, if this is a false flag, does that mean we are about to wage war on clouds, wind and water?

If Obama wanted to disrupt the election, wouldn't it be better to aim the HAARP blaster at conservative states like Texas or Oklahoma? Are conservatives in control of the HAARP blaster?

Operation Northwoods 1962-was a planned(never executed, so they say)false-flag op, which described the use of various techniques of creating insurgency with a view to starting a full-scale war. Included in their mixed-bag:Fabricating the hijacking or shooting down of passenger and/or military planes, sinking U.S. ships near Cuba,etc.
\False-flag ops now-a-days, after 9-11, 40 years later??-They (CIA, Mossad,etc.) get better and better and better at what they do, including giving the general public just enough information that they remain completely oblivious to what is actually happening, hence, "What you think you know about a world event or fact of history, is rendered meaningless based on inadequate intelligence(information)."
All they believe the general population "needs to know" is who they will be coerced through manipulation of media into electing. This after grooming and providing a group of candidates that can ultimately be persuaded to follow any agenda they decide.
Iran will be bombed by Israel very soon-The middle east will remain a region controlled through means described above, and your "vote" on the matters, mean "fuck all."

>> ^quantumushroom:

Well perhaps the choice is this or another full scale invasion/war. Which is it?

That's a false dichotomy of choices.

Well, we know the conservatives love themselves a full-scale war, perhaps Obama will decide to green light a lower-risk, less profitable costly solution, like he did when the S.E.A.L.S. got Bin Laden.

@marinara: Could you really call that a false-flag attack? I understand it's sabotage and covert ops but I think a "false flag" operation literally refers to someone using an enemy flag, somehow physically presented, to disguise themselves. Going in at night in black pajamas, or paying someone else to do it just seems like your basic covert operation.

The only reason I mention it is that I initially thought you might be saying that somehow this "false flag" op in Syria fifty years ago might help convince people that the US would have no problem with something like the "9/11 Conspiracy".

I was linking to one of the most well known "false flag" attacks of all time. My point wasnt about who did it, just the fact that it is done.

>> ^ChaosEngine:
>> ^csnel3:
With a name like chaosEngine , I would have assumed you knew why people do things like this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire
Yeah, you would imagine that I would jump straight to a comparison with Nazi Germany. Funny how I didn't that...

Magnetic sticky bombs from a speeding motorcycle? This sounds like that Arsehole James bond. He does shit like this! Its been exposed recently in song. Maybe the Brits pulled this job on orders from the U.S and Isreal. Makes more sense than a false flag operation by the Evil Iranians themselves.

I think this entire contest is part of a larger false flag op, designed to draw attention away from the 911 attacks. You and your operatives have lured political malcontents to this site with a combination of videos featuring boobs, cats and far left/far right agitprop/disinfo. Once mentally enslaved, you 1) force these captives to compete for 'power points' (which are not tied to any kind of gold standard), 2) create conflicts among them to keep them occupied, which in turn keeps them from becoming politically active outside the site, and 3) create this contest which just so happens blow right past the 10 year anniversary of 9/11 to 9/12, nullifying all of our voices.

And you almost got away with it. But now you have a full blown mutiny on your hands. Commence DNS attack in 3.. 2.. 1..