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Police Who Murder Man In Public On Camera Fired

Mordhaus says...

News, Eric Garner pt. 2. I just wish I would have been there because instead of standing there filming I would have tackled that officer.

We need people to start standing up for one another against this shit.

*promote *quality

newtboy said:

Snuff or news? I feel like this incident is going to be with us for a while.

Police Choke & Body Slam Man After Prom

wtfcaniuse says...

Can you show me where in any police training manual it suggests choking should be used? Eric Garner died from a prohibited choke hold which was deemed a homicide but the officer involved still wasn't charged.

You have a good point about suspension while the investigation takes place and facing possible charges if found guilty but unfortunately police are rarely found at fault, even for blatant misconduct.

ChaosEngine said:

Choking is a perfectly valid submission technique for someone posing a threat to the cop or other people.

Police have no CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY to protect YOU!

lantern53 says...

One thing at a time.

Eric Garner did not choke to death. He was choked. It did not kill him.

Garner died because his body was stressed from resisting arrest and his pre-existing conditon caused a failure.

If he had not resisted arrest, he would still be alive.

Try to stay on topic.

Police have no CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY to protect YOU!

GenjiKilpatrick says...

Here we go with generalizations again.

Let's completely forget the Air Traffic Controller comparison because it's just plain stupid.

http://www.planecrashinfo.com/cause.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States




Secondly, you've confirmed that cops can and will lie whenever they need to.

The number of "justifiable homicides" is skewed because cops will lie and plant evidence.
e.g. Walter Scott video shows the cop planting his tazer.

(well at least three cops- your buddy, you and slager)

We'll never truly know how many cases like this are covered-up.

So we'll never know how many victims truly "had it coming".



Thirdly, there's a complete difference between a "slip & catch error"..

And "accidentally" choking Eric Garner to death..

Or "accidentally" severing Freddie Grey's spine..

Or "accidentally" shooting Akai Gurley to death in a darkened stairwell that you were NEVER supposed to be in the fucking first place..


Those were NOT "mistakes", they were pure negligence and incompetence.. Full Stop.


Those "occasions" weren't few and far between.. they're monthly, weekly, if not DAILY occurrences.


If you don't like when society labels all LEOs as Bad Cops..

Stop making generalization, Lantern.

Because if anyone on here said:

"the vast major of police & soldiers who get killed had it coming"

You would flip your shit.




Seriously, I'm trying to be civil with you now.

But you keep saying crazy insensitive sociopathic shit.

lantern53 said:

cops occasionally make mistakes which cost lives, so do air traffic controllers

but the vast majority of people who are killed by cops brought it right on themselves

if you'd like, I would be happy to post example after example

Just your everyday harassment, courtesy of the NYPD

GenjiKilpatrick says...

But yeah, this statement is just another example of your EXTREME, at this point willful, Naivety.

Are you sure you read that article?

Because the author reminds us that the only reason those ridiculous false charges were dismissed.. was luck.

New York Housing Authority will generally sit on any evidence for months.
Getting that footage would normally be a batttle in-and-of itself.

In that time, NYPD would engage in character-assassination.
Just like police in Ferguson with Mike Brown. Or Trayvon Martin. Or the man who filmed Eric Garner's death.

So great, a recourse that has an extremely slim chance even go to trial.
Even if it does go to trial, public opinion has already decided..
"Well He deserved it. He was a thug anyway."

And on the even slimmer chance that a cop gets punished for their incompetence.. the damage is already done and the victim/s already dead. i.e. Freddie Gray.

lantern53 said:

Cops will never be perfect, the situation will never be perfect, but the citizen has a recourse if cops misbehave, and it's called civil court. But until you have a case, i still think you should support the police because they are there to protect you.

Swedish cops show NYPD how to subdue people w/ hurting them

lantern53 says...

Oh, I'm sure Asmo is right...the police in the US are taught to kill people at every opportunity.

I suppose that makes for a big fail since the cops in the US are so inept at killing people. Out of 12 million arrests, 593 people killed by cops in 2014 with about 1/4 of those being black people. But because you can't turn on MSNBC w/o a rehash of Michael Brown or Eric Garner, people think this happens every 6 seconds on the street.

Someone do the math, because I suck at math, what percent is 593 of 12 million?

jon stewart-rage against the rage against the machine

lantern53 says...

Michael Brown didn't have his 'hands up' according to credible evidence. Both he and Eric Garner died from resisting arrest and the violence attendant upon that fact.

Being arrested is not a negotiation between two parties in a contract.

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Buttle says...

Maybe it's just my own naivete, but I would love to imagine that there was a time when being arrested was a little more formal than just having some cop blindside you like they did Eric Garner. Like maybe the cop actually told you you were under arrest, and gave you a chance to submit to the authority that he represented (NOT embodied) and maybe even mentioned what putative offense you might be arrested for, and had some rationale for it that the supreme court might recognize.

Even if that time never existed, it might arrive some day if enough cops exercising their fascistic discretion have their feet held to the fire of public scrutiny.

Godspeed, Chris Lollie.

NY Man Dies After Struggle With NYPD

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