Bobknight's post is a great example of missing the point.

In that entire historical diatribe about how the Democratic Party is bad because of it's history he manages to completely ignore the ideas that formed the basis of the parties.

Hey Bob, if you read this let me ask you something. Do you really think the label "Democratic Party" has any meaning in the historical context you're so painfully trying to cite?

Do you think that the old south was full of liberals, or do you think the old south was conservative as ever and just the LABELS of what the party means changed?

Here's a history lesson for you, pal. The Democratic Party was started in the south as a conservative anti-federal, anti-government party. Sounds just like the south today. Sounds a lot like the republican party doesn't it?

Everything you criticize and ascribe to the "Democratic Party" you're laying the blame on the conservatives.

The democrats were the conservatives. Understand what that means?

The south didn't change, only the label of the party did. The republicans of the 19th century? They were the legacy of Hamilton's federalists, the industrialists, the northern bankers, supporters of strong central government, just the type of people you hate.

So when you condemn the democratic party history, you sound like an idiot coming from a conservative anti-federal government point of view. You're condemning the ancestors to your own movement.

You could call it the green party, or the birthday party for all it matters, it's the IDEAS that count.

The democrats were wrong in 1860 not because they were democrats, but because they were backward thinking, rural, anti-union, state rights supporters who plunged the whole country into a bloody war because they couldn't wake up and smell the 20th century coming.

Sounds like you'd get along with them famously! Doesn't it?

The problem with the Tea Party isn't who buys their bus rides, it's that, like you, they don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

>> ^arekin:

Is that Yoda at the cave trolls birthday party?

Yes:
>> ^YouTubeDescription:

There are also two easter eggs for the highly observant out there! Who can spot Gollum, slinking in the shadows, and who can spot the Star Wars cameo?

Is that Yoda at the cave trolls birthday party?

Pin the tail on the donkey is what this reminds me of.

Which I recall playing at my birthday party when I was around the age of six or seven.

That was the last year Chris wanted birthday parties.

Ya know I was a kid when the riots broke out and I had to miss a Birthday party because we were too scared in our homes of the riots in SoCal. I've heard everything about Rodney King my whole life, people telling me this and that, making jokes about it news articles and such. I read a BBC article on the day he died and they said that as a result of the beatings he suffered brain damage. No News Channel or article I've ever read has ever mentioned that, almost like they were trying to sow distrust of this guy who's whining about the cops beating him.

I even compared the BBC article with the Associated Press article, no mention of brain damage just a graphic description of the beating. I guess they don't understand that a stupid racist decision can have long term effects.

>> ^spoco2:
I'm amazed that @shinyblurry can, with a straight face, (well, I assume he's not sniggering) suggest that it's inconceivable that while we've seen that when matter and anti-matter come together they cancel each other out and form 'nothing' the reverse cannot possibly happen.


Directing you to a general reply, here:

http://videosift.com/video/Richard-Dawkins-and-Lawrence-Krauss-Something-from-Nothing?loadcomm=1#comment-1443305

>> ^spoco2:
And yet God 'just is'. You cannot fathom that something that we HAVE OBSERVED would seem to logically go the other way also, and yet are happy to accept a notion of an omnipotent bearded man existing for all eternity.... so just giving up on the concept of time and saying 'he just was, and is'.


No one has given up on the concept of time. The evidence indicates that time had an absolute beginning:

http://www.ctc.cam.ac.uk/stephen70/talks/swh70_vilenkin.pdf

If time had an absolute beginning, that means that whatever created the Universe is timeless (as well as spaceless, powerful, immaterial and transcendent). Meaning, the evidence points to an eternal first cause of the Universe. That is already matching up to a description of God and His attributes. Also, God is not a bearded man; you came to that conclusion because of religous imagery, not what scripture says. What scripture says is that God is a spirit.

>> ^spoco2:
I don't get how you think you have any point of argument. Sure, I can completely get that people can conceive that there is some higher power, that's fine. But to think there's any infinitesimally small shred of logic or reason contained in that belief that is any more reasoned than what science is coming up with is baffling.


I'm glad to hear that you can allow for belief in a higher power. Though, it doesn't sound like you are very familiar with the logical arguments for the existence of God. The kalam cosmological argument, for example, establishes an eternal, personal, transcendent first cause of the Universe.

>> ^spoco2:
You believe that, you also think it's your mission to convert others, but you know what? Trying to argue it out, thinking that you have some logical gotcha is just futile. You know the best way to bring people to your way of thinking? Be compassionate, lead by example, do good works, help others. DO NOT PREACH. Seriously, some of the nicest people I know actually have their own church, they run it, they created it. But they DO NOT preach AT ALL to us, they don't try to convert us at all. But they are helpful, kind, caring people who are wonderful to be around, and when they bow their heads and pray and make speeches thanking their lord during their birthday parties and other celebrations it doesn't grate, because it's not done in any way that's trying to rope in us unbelievers.


I agree with you, that a Christian should do good works. That is the fruit of a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. However, Christians are also commanded by Jesus to preach the gospel. We are supposed to do both, not one or the other. There are specific, spiritual reasons for why this is so. Your friends sounds like excellent Christians, however, if you were to die tomorrow, and they had never told you the gospel, they will answer for that at the judgment seat of Jesus Christ. Christianity does not come by osmosis; faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

>> ^spoco2:
Please take that as a way to spread your word, Do Good Deeds. We like to watch videos like this because it's two people discussing some really deep questions and we like to know what scientists think about these things that are in their field of expertise. I would just as much like to watch a discussion between theologians about morality and differing religions and how they think their teachings fit in there. As long as it wasn't a case of 'if you don't believe in me you are doomed to hell', just 'I believe that following these commandments will lead to a better life', or 'I don't take the story of Noah to be a factual account, but more a parable with a lesson'.


There is a difference between having a debate, and telling someone the gospel. However, why would you expect someone to compromise, or water down what they believe? You've felt very comfortable in telling me exactly what you believe, and what I should be doing, and how I should be doing it, yet I must censor myself for the sake of your sensitive ears? Do you think I am going to obey God, or man?

I'm amazed that @shinyblurry can, with a straight face, (well, I assume he's not sniggering) suggest that it's inconceivable that while we've seen that when matter and anti-matter come together they cancel each other out and form 'nothing' the reverse cannot possibly happen. And yet God 'just is'. You cannot fathom that something that we HAVE OBSERVED would seem to logically go the other way also, and yet are happy to accept a notion of an omnipotent bearded man existing for all eternity.... so just giving up on the concept of time and saying 'he just was, and is'.

I don't get how you think you have any point of argument. Sure, I can completely get that people can conceive that there is some higher power, that's fine. But to think there's any infinitesimally small shred of logic or reason contained in that belief that is any more reasoned than what science is coming up with is baffling.

You believe that, you also think it's your mission to convert others, but you know what? Trying to argue it out, thinking that you have some logical gotcha is just futile. You know the best way to bring people to your way of thinking? Be compassionate, lead by example, do good works, help others. DO NOT PREACH. Seriously, some of the nicest people I know actually have their own church, they run it, they created it. But they DO NOT preach AT ALL to us, they don't try to convert us at all. But they are helpful, kind, caring people who are wonderful to be around, and when they bow their heads and pray and make speeches thanking their lord during their birthday parties and other celebrations it doesn't grate, because it's not done in any way that's trying to rope in us unbelievers.

Please take that as a way to spread your word, Do Good Deeds. We like to watch videos like this because it's two people discussing some really deep questions and we like to know what scientists think about these things that are in their field of expertise. I would just as much like to watch a discussion between theologians about morality and differing religions and how they think their teachings fit in there. As long as it wasn't a case of 'if you don't believe in me you are doomed to hell', just 'I believe that following these commandments will lead to a better life', or 'I don't take the story of Noah to be a factual account, but more a parable with a lesson'.

These Yelp reviews are completely blasphemous. What happens at Abortionplex stays at Abortionplex.>> ^longde:

282 hilarious reviews of the Abortionplex on Yelp, e.g.:
5 Stars---The buffet on the mezzanine level is great (avoid the seafood though- they don't replace it often enough) and the gift shop downstairs has cool tchotchkes and stuff (I got a coat hanger license plate frame). And I really like the combo deals- bring a friend and get 1/2 off the 2nd abortion, every third abortion get a free trip to the buffet, etc.
But the Abortionplex Funzone is the best part. Classic 80s arcade games like Joust, Rampage and Tron, all set to play for nickels, plus a row of top-notch skeeball machines. Most places that have skeeball feature machines that are broken or run down, but these are all brand new, and the prizes you can win with game tickets are much better than the plastic junk you usually get at Chucky Cheeze and Peter Pipers. I am definitely having my next birthday party at the Abortionplex! I hope my wife is pregnant again by then.

282 hilarious reviews of the Abortionplex on Yelp, e.g.:

5 Stars---The buffet on the mezzanine level is great (avoid the seafood though- they don't replace it often enough) and the gift shop downstairs has cool tchotchkes and stuff (I got a coat hanger license plate frame). And I really like the combo deals- bring a friend and get 1/2 off the 2nd abortion, every third abortion get a free trip to the buffet, etc.

But the Abortionplex Funzone is the best part. Classic 80s arcade games like Joust, Rampage and Tron, all set to play for nickels, plus a row of top-notch skeeball machines. Most places that have skeeball feature machines that are broken or run down, but these are all brand new, and the prizes you can win with game tickets are much better than the plastic junk you usually get at Chucky Cheeze and Peter Pipers. I am definitely having my next birthday party at the Abortionplex! I hope my wife is pregnant again by then.

You really want to stay away from just about everything Sprinkle related. We are a dirty horrible bunch of people.
>> ^Fletch:

>> ^ssprinkles:
The video is great, the music makes me jealous of the deaf.
Welcome to the Sift, Stephen Sprinkles! I had a cat named Sprinkles once. I told everyone he was named after a former porn star, but it was really the name of a terrifying birthday party clown from my childhood. Don't hire Sprinkles the Clown for your kid's birthday party, people. Trust me. Don't hire Sprinkles.

>> ^ssprinkles:

The video is great, the music makes me jealous of the deaf.
Welcome to the Sift, Stephen Sprinkles! I had a cat named Sprinkles once. I told everyone he was named after a former porn star, but it was really the name of a terrifying birthday party clown from my childhood. Don't hire Sprinkles the Clown for your kid's birthday party, people. Trust me. Don't hire Sprinkles.

>> ^ghark:

I really hate the massive black ants that we get here in Qld, they are extremely aggressive and their bites really hurt. I'm certainly not inviting any to my birthday party that's for sure.


Be glad they don't sting. Those are worse.

I really hate the massive black ants that we get here in Qld, they are extremely aggressive and their bites really hurt. I'm certainly not inviting any to my birthday party that's for sure.

Well now the truck drivers are going to miss the pool birthday party