@newtboy @BSR I mean you can take ANY of those claims and pick them apart in short order.

You can burn churches? even in covid heavy places they are letting people go to church still, even though the rest of us think it's stupid and will cause more infections just so people can visit their imaginary friend.

Unless you don't feel that way, in which case stop spreading your hate propaganda.

I don't have to apologize for being white, but i can recognize history and when there is a disparity in the way the police enforce the law I can stand with them and say "THATS NOT FAIR" Standing up for people isn't me apologizing for myself, and it doesn't make me less of a person.

But I digress, he's been hearing this from people on this site for ~ ten years. Dont waste your time, let the dumb dumbs who think covid isn't real Darwin themselves.

So yeah, @bobknight33, go to a megachurch, go to a trump rally like she suggests. Prove you're done with our bullshit if you feel that way.

Oh Jesus, bobski, now you just deny it happened based on one prageru video that conveniently omits what happened 68-72...the time period in question?!? And you complain about CNN?!?

Your proof it didn't happen, Republicans didn't completely control the south until 94?! What nonsense. That's not proof of anything of the sort, implied correlation isn't causation. Republicans were about to disappear in the south in 68-69, that changed by 72.

Perhaps you've forgotten that, in 2005, Republican National Committee chairman Ken Mehlman formally apologized to the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), a national civil rights organization, for decades of exploiting racial polarization to win elections and ignoring the black vote.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

Learn some truth, not some far right propaganda that intentionally omits the time period being discussed in it's best arguments, offering red herring suppositions at best. Duh.

I'm wondering if China just decided to send us some really good kush seeds in apology for covid.

I saw no apology, just his willingness to hear one out if offered.

"...and apologized for their response to the protest".

Aw, gee guys. I'm sorry about that, you know, illegal and violent behaviour that we did to y'all. I swear it won't happen again.

Apologies, didn't mean to misrepresent you. We've debated things before and you seemed to lean to no cop is a good cop because there are so many bad ones guilt be association and failure to clean things up makes them all bad. You'd also said up thread to fire all active officers.

I'll cease trying to word how you feel on it, I just wanted to demonstrate by counter example that not everybody means 'reform' when they say "defund". At a minimum , the degree of 'reform' varies from change some laws and regulations to fire them and start over from scratch.

My comment of being ruled by our 'betters' was meant as a sarcastic dig on them and their abject failure in letting things rot this far and doing nothing.

Finally, my comment on public opinion on solutions being non-uniform was mostly to emphasize that as just normal, and the current status quo is just so unacceptable that it is unifying people from varied points of view to stand up against it. The most important point being that declaring, see nothing will satisfy the mob because they can't agree what to do is a twisted deception and the truth is people want things to be better than they are, and there is as you pointed out tonnes of common sense ways to go about that,

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

Sorry, Bobby. 1/2 facts are no facts. No one hid Wallace's party.

Wallace was awful, but changed with his party, apologized for his intolerance and racism, and changed his tune on racial issues.



Not Trump, who at that time was busy denying blacks apartments in any of his buildings for years, even after admitting the practice and promising the government he would stop. He never apologized, and never stopped being blatantly racist.

https://www.npr.org/2016/09/29/495955920/donald-trump-plagued-by-decades-old-housing-discrimination-case

No one, including you, believes Republicans are anti racists who embrace proud racists and Nazis and Democrats are the racists who call out racism, include other races in the party beyond token members, and shun racists and Nazis. They both switched positions 50 years ago....and you just pretend they didn't. So sad and unconvincingly intentionally ignorant, is that really the best you've got? If so, just concede now, save yourself a beating.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

How many civil rights leaders are Republicans today, Bob? How many?

You really are looking moronic, intentionally ignoring what we ALL know happened in the 60-70's. 1/2 truths, Bobby, it's the best you ever offer....1/2 truths.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

Your position amounts to saying "Black people are so dumb they don't know Republicans are helping and Democrats hate them." So moronic and racist a position. It's why Trump gets 8% of the black vote....No matter how much he panders and shows off his black person at rallies.

Hilariously, this is really not about Biden vs Trump or Republicans VS Democrats, it's about Republicans VS Trump. These commercials are made by REPUBLICANS! LMFAHS!
Here's another for you....
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wuAHz4i3_x8

Who wants proven innocent blacks executed anyway because, based solely on their skin color, he believes "they mugged someone"? Mr Don Trump- Trumpublican

Who wants to shove more "thugs" (his word for blacks) in prison for longer sentences? Mr Don Trump-Trumpublican

Who complained loudly that the Biden crime bill didn't lock up enough blacks for long enough? Mr Don Trump-Trumpublican

Who wants to execute way more "thugs" (blacks), but wants something less "comfortable" than lethal injection (like slow public hangings)? Mr Don Trump-Trumpublican

Who thinks white supremacists, treasonous confederates, and neo Nazis are "good people" who shouldn't serve time for rioting and attacking peaceful anti-racism protesters? Mr Don Trump-Trumpublican

Who still holds these beliefs and has never once apologized for them? Mr Don Trump-Trumpublican

You are so dishonest and desperate.

The way it's presented here, yes, his own words are edited and selected with other words/statements omitted to create right wing propaganda. Where are the parts where he admits he was wrong and apologized over and over?

How about Trump's own words, and Trump's own position then. He said the Clinton/Biden crime bill was way too soft and lenient. Here's a taste from Trump's book....

"The perpetrator is never a victim. He’s nothing more than a predator. (pages 93-94).

A life is a life, and if you criminally take an innocent life, you’d better be prepared to forfeit your own. My only complaint is that lethal injection is too comfortable a way to go. (pages 102-103).

Criminals are often returned to society because of forgiving judges. This has to stop. We need to hold judges more accountable… The rest of us need to rethink prisons and punishment. The next time you hear someone saying there are too many people in prison, ask them how many thugs they’re willing to relocate to their neighborhood. The answer: None. (pages 106-107)."

If that doesn’t sound like support for mass incarceration and the death penalty with little chance for criminal justice reform in sentencing, I’m not sure what does.

https://observer.com/2019/06/trump-crime-2000-book-biden-1994-crime-bill/

How about the Central Park 5? Trump paid for adds calling for the death penalty for these wrongly accused boys. Despite DNA evidence and a confession by the real rapist and restitution from the state in the $40000000 range Trump STILL insists they're guilty of something (he doesn't know what they did, but they're definitely guilty) and deserve the death penalty.....clearly forgetting he's bragged about doing what they were wrongly accused of....sexual assault.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/06/19/what-trump-has-said-central-park-five/1501321001/

Biden has admitted his position was wrong, and repeatedly apologized. Trump has NEVER done that, even about calling for the death penalty for the proven innocent.

*facepalm. You still don't understand that some people have a longer memory than a gnat, and we can recall that no matter the topic, Trump's position was worse than Democrats at the time, and his current position is worse than their current position.
*D'Oh*

Yet another in the infinite string of examples of another young black mans life taken by not a few bad apples, but a criminal lying gang of abusive thugs who kidnapped an innocent young boy and tortured him for 9 years, but intended his torture to last for life.

Any person in the police or DA's office with knowledge of the facts should be serving a minimum of 9 years in gen pop with no special treatment, labeled child molesters.
Anyone who had a hand in this intentional torture of a child deserves a slow protracted public torturous death with the promise that their families are next being the last thing they hear. (We don't have to follow through on that, just make them believe it).

THIS is why I say all police are lead deficient. Again, not one came forward, they NEVER come forward to out fellow officers, and this time the entire department and DA conspired to torture a boy for life to protect their reputations and succeeded for over 9 years....and no repercussions or apologies. None at all.
Use black talons.

There aren't even a few good apples, the whole bunch is spoiled. It took a hitman, the actual mass murderer with more morality than the entire legal system to save him, and even that was nearly covered up.

There is not a punishment severe or torturous enough for these police and prosecutors.

What an absolute BS stop. With that said, people that get pulled over really need to stop trying to confront the officer(s) when shit like this happens. Nothing good is ever going to come from that, as it's highly unlikely the cop is going to admit fault or apologize. Furthermore, you are re-engaging with someone that clearly wants to give you a hard time and cops can find a reason to fine or arrest you. As much as we'd all love to rip that cop a new one, he's got a gun, pepper spray, a taser, and the backing of a gang, so in my opinion it's better to contact the media and register a complaint AFTER disengaging from the situation. When the dude in the video got out of his car I immediately thought some bad shit was going to go down...

14 states having record high numbers of infected and hospitalizations now. Not going away, it's getting worse, and America knows it.

Recent in person elections have been unmitigated disasters...in republican led states before you knee jerk and blame democrats.

Still waiting for these known stories of Democrats cheating. Come on, don't you want to tell us all about those bad bad people? Yeah...thought not.

Republicans have introduced vote by mail in many states, no dems are crying foul. Apology?
Only republicans are crying foul...and only about the democratically led states that want to prepare for a near certain quarantined election since the "open now" crowd has caused a second infection wave already and will likely cause a third and fourth. Republicans want to delay those preparations as much as possible to minimize the vote in those states or even just invalidate them altogether. This is not a secret.

Universal vote by mail has worked fine without any such issues for Washington, Oregon, Utah, Hawaii, and Colorado for decades. Stop folding paper tigers.

I keep hearing this called an "apology"....did ANYONE hear the words "I'm sorry" or "I apologize"?
This was an admission of a mistake, distinctly different from an apology. Still good, but let's not exaggerate what's happened here.

^
"the governor had to get involved, they have been released now with his apology. "

The media being targeted by the government is step one towards totalitarian despotism.
Stand up. This is democracy itself under siege. If you take it sitting down or as just a spectator, you deserve the authoritarian dictatorship you'll wake up in tomorrow. If you live in Philadelphia, you have a duty to stand against tyranny. Get out there.

The president said we should shoot the THUGS in Philadelphia....they're easy to identify, they're wearing all blue with helmets. Aim for the armpits or crotch.

Note, no reason was ever given for the arrests (making this a kidnapping) and the governor had to get involved, they have been released now with his apology.