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Prosecution of Julian Assange/Attack on Freedom of Speech
Cheers for the interjection. I always appreciate a well-formed argument that challenges my beliefs.
I wasn't aware of the exposure of undercover agents. That does at least partly counter my first point. I do still think the public interest aspect is very significant, although as I'm not American I see it more from more of a global point of view.
As for the second point, I was referring to the statements in the video, specifically its 'leveraging of anti-Trump sentiment', rather than the prosecution itself.
I still believe that my general point holds: that the statements in the video are generally correct, and that the approach the US has taken (under both Trump and Obama) will have - and is designed to have - a chilling effect on the publishing of information that shows the state acting in what many would describe as an evil manner.
I'll interject.
The published information included the names of hundreds of undercover agents [..].
It benefits Trump because it allows him the appearance of (at least now) not working with Assange to help Rusher[...]
Prosecution of Julian Assange/Attack on Freedom of Speech
I'll interject.
The published information included the names of hundreds of undercover agents that had nothing to do with the footage, or criminal actions. It was an unfiltered dump of everything they, working together, stole. Exposing those unrelated agents did not benefit American public, cost us millions if not billions, hurt our intelligence agencies badly, and helped our enemies greatly.
It benefits Trump because it allows him the appearance of (at least now) not working with Assange to help Rusher...Er, ah, Russia....interfere in our election to get him elected....multiple instances with video footage of him lavishly praising their work and requesting further interference notwithstanding....his followers can't remember that far back and believe it's "fake news" when their nose gets shoved in it....because he says so.
That's possibly the case - although I don't believe it myself - but in what way is the video wrong? As the it says, they're going after Assange for publishing true information gained from a valid source that shows something that (in my opinion) is in the public's best interest to see. The published footage doesn't significantly endanger American operations or agents - certainly not beyond the benefit the public gain from seeing what was done in their name.
I also don't believe that this benefits Trump's agenda, but then I don't think Trump is in effect a Russian agent (although I might agree with the argument that he's a massive tool).
Newtboy's point is at least relevant. Personally I believe that their motivation for going after him is the footage he helped publish, even if the weapon they use is only tangentally related, but it's a fair and interesting point to make.
Student - D'Souza to convince him life starts at conception
Maybe he's not a dumbass.
Maaayyybeee he's... *shifts eyes around* undercover.
Until then, this dumbass just made two arguments for pro choice.
Pathetic.
C-note (Member Profile)
Your video, Ex-Drug Cop Explains What Going Undercover is Like, has made it into the Top 15 New Videos listing. Congratulations on your achievement. For your contribution you have been awarded 1 Power Point.
Ex-Drug Cop Explains What Going Undercover is Like
In the UK we have a the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs, a public body whose evidence is dismissed by politicians, and whose chair is then sacked for suggesting politicians dismiss the scientific evidence. Still mad about it 2018.
Also related, see use of undercover cops in protest groups (at least two of which actually had children with the people they were surveilling...).
Great fucking Britain.
Beverly Hills Cop - Cigarette Truck
I was shocked when I saw the cop lowered his gun. Don't see that much anymore.
Yes I realize Murphy was an undercover cop but, still.
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Congratulations! Your video, Undercover in Myanmar's Sin city where anything goes, has reached the #1 spot in the current Top 15 New Videos listing. This is a very difficult thing to accomplish but you managed to pull it off. For your contribution you have been awarded 2 Power Points.
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Your video, Undercover in Myanmar's Sin city where anything goes, has made it into the Top 15 New Videos listing. Congratulations on your achievement. For your contribution you have been awarded 1 Power Point.
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Your video, Cambridge Analytica: Undercover Secrets Part 2, has made it into the Top 15 New Videos listing. Congratulations on your achievement. For your contribution you have been awarded 1 Power Point.
Justice League: The B Team
Shhhh...he's undercover.
Fucking bullshit.
Howard the Duck is a Marvel character.
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Your video, a black man undercover in the alt-right-theo wilson, has made it into the Top 15 New Videos listing. Congratulations on your achievement. For your contribution you have been awarded 1 Power Point.
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Your video, Nick Offerman Goes Undercover On The Internet, has made it into the Top 15 New Videos listing. Congratulations on your achievement. For your contribution you have been awarded 1 Power Point.
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Your video, Stephen Colbert Goes Undercover As An H&R Block Tax Pro, has made it into the Top 15 New Videos listing. Congratulations on your achievement. For your contribution you have been awarded 1 Power Point.
Nerdwriter - The Master: How Scientology Works
http://ohnopodcast.com/investigations/2016/2/1/ross-and-carrie-audit-scientology-part-1-going-preclear
cool podcast about two people who go undercover into Scientology. They do other cults, alt-religions etc, but boy does Scientology take the biscuit.
Trump-Funded Operative CAUGHT Soliciting Illegal Acts?
Uhm, isnt that exactly the sort of thing these guys have been doing all along? Trying to prove liberals are doing shit like this by simply acting as the sponsors?
You know, like the undercover cop acting as a prostitute or drug dealer...
Anyway, am I the only one thinking this video seems like one of these documentary style "found footage" movies? The people in it all seem like very bad actors, especially that "Ryan Clayton". So weird.