I enjoy some of the animal videos on the sift, and I upvote those. Other than that, as an outspoken bible believing Christian, who is pro-family, pro-life, and as someone who opposes the politically correct left wing agenda, we probably don't have many areas of agreement. It just shows though how insular you are to believe that anyone who disagrees with you doesn't have sincere beliefs. Since you know what I am against, I'll tell you what I am for:

I advocate the essential dignity and value of human life, that all people are deserving of equal treatment, and even love. I believe that we should help people who are in need, those who are suffering in the world, that we should be advocates for those who don't have a voice. I believe that cruelty to animals is a quiet holocaust, although, I do not believe animal life is essentially equal to human life. I believe in communities, in working together towards common goals, and that we all have a moral responsibility to participate in civil society and use our God given gifts to benefit our fellow man.

I am sure we can find something to agree upon in there.

>> ^Stormsinger:

Let me get this straight. You find a video with a controversial title posted by a gentleman (using the term most loosely), whose entire time on the sift has been spent trolling. And you think you can actually have a meaningful dialog with the twit?
Get a clue folks...shiny's just here to see how many people he can annoy. Whatever is popular, he's against...whatever is unpopular, he's for. You're wasting your time trying to show him the errors he's propogating. Granted, it's your time to waste...but don't then complain that he's wasting it.

You think you are showing that the protesters were wrong to not get up and leave when the cops told them they were going to be peppersprayed if they didn't run along home.
Instead--you are highlighting their bravery and commitment.
FAIL!

No, I am showing that they were warned, contrary to the liberal outcry that they were sprayed without warning, which we now know to be a lie.

So, if you were a sixteenth-century protestant and the Catholic church told you you were going to be burned at the stake--you'd quietly submit and go home--Right?

I mean they were the lawful rulers--you would be breaking their laws--it doesn't matter if you believed you were in the right--Does it?

I believe in rule of law, and that all authority is ordained by God, however, if that authority contradicts the direct commands of God, we have a right to disobey them.

>> ^Boise_Lib:

You think you are showing that the protesters were wrong to not get up and leave when the cops told them they were going to be peppersprayed if they didn't run along home.
Instead--you are highlighting their bravery and commitment.
FAIL!
So, if you were a sixteenth-century protestant and the Catholic church told you you were going to be burned at the stake--you'd quietly submit and go home--Right?
I mean they were the lawful rulers--you would be breaking their laws--it doesn't matter if you believed you were in the right--Does it?

the problems of understanding arise when people give their power over to the powerful.they acquiesce to the very powers seeking to disempower them.
so we get things like "free speech zones" which are far away from the very thing being protested and most certainly no where near any business or government functions.

This is a government of the people, by the people and for the people. Meaning, that government gets its power from the people. Further, this power comes down from the Most High God:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness

Has the government strayed far from the intentions of the founders? The answer is a resounding yes. It is most certainly becoming a police state. This is the broader trend in the world, that will eventually coalesce into a totalitarian one world government.

this is not a lib/repub issue but an american issue.for decades the government has slowly chipped away at our civil liberties and given more power to itself.this is what governments do,this is what ANY powerful institution does=keep itself relevant and IN power and the ONLY thing power fears is?
the people.
again,not my opinion but historically accurate.

I agree that our government is corrupt and acts contrary to our interests. However, I am not an anarchist. If a government is infringing upon our inherent rights or direct commands given to us by God, then yes I think we have the right under God to disobey them. Protesting rich people doesn't appear to fall under that category.

this is about challenging authority.
you say that when a policemen gives a "lawful" order to disperse that should be the end of it.
i say:i question your "lawful order" as it hinders my right to assemble and give my government a redress of my grievances.

No, I say that if you receive an order from authority you can expect to be forced into compliance if you disobey that authority. My comment is about the way this incident was portrayed, as if the protesters were just arbitrarily sprayed without any warning.

As far as the occupy movement offering a redress of grievances, I hardly see how a bunch of marxists, and socialists waving communists flags, defecating in the streets, and shooting up in their tents addresses any relevant issue this country is facing. It started out with a point, and was quickly taken over by hippies, anarchists, and every other far left wingnut with a pet cause and a bucket for handouts.

Comparing this sad menagerie to the civil rights movement? Come on..

because "the people" are not multinational corporations with deep pockets who can influence legislators by way of lobbyists.we cant purchase the kind of time that a corporation can to make our case to a senator or congressmen.we cannot influence public opinion by way of tv commercials or entire networks.
but we CAN sit and stop traffic,or slow the flow of business and THAT is when they take notice.
and the response is always the same:
ignore.
and if that doesnt work?
ridicule.
if that fails?
co-opt in any way possible (see:tea party)
cant co-opt?
oppress,bully and intimidate by authoritarian means.
(guess which stage we are in now?)
and if that fails?
success.

This is just a shadow of what is to come. The future rule of the antichrist is going to make Nazi Germany look like candyland.



>> ^enoch:

the only way and i mean the ONLY way a peacef.
(guess which stage we are in now?)
and if that fails?
success.

>> ^Stormsinger:

Let me get this straight. You find a video with a controversial title posted by a gentleman (using the term most loosely), whose entire time on the sift has been spent trolling. And you think you can actually have a meaningful dialog with the twit?
Get a clue folks...shiny's just here to see how many people he can annoy. Whatever is popular, he's against...whatever is unpopular, he's for. You're wasting your time trying to show him the errors he's propogating. Granted, it's your time to waste...but don't then complain that he's wasting it.


You, sir--are absolutely correct.
I must have just lost my head for a moment.

>> ^ChaosEngine:

Anyone else reminded of the last scene in The Birds?



That's exactly what I thought.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'uc davis, pike, pepper, spray, anonymous, personal info' to 'uc davis, occupy, pike, pepper, spray, anonymous, personal info' - edited by calvados

Tags for this video have been changed from 'pike, pepper, spray, anonymous, personal info' to 'uc davis, pike, pepper, spray, anonymous, personal info' - edited by calvados

"Pepper" Katehi speaks at a rally on Nov. 21, 2011.

http://videosift.com/video/Pepper-Katehi-speaks-at-UC-Davis-Rally

>> ^bmacs27:

WTF kind of imperial university has a "Chancellor?" All of my universities have had presidents like any self respecting democracy.


I know. From what I understand her other name is Darth Mater Studiorum

This is what it's all about:
http://videosift.com/video/Police-pepper-spraying-and-arresting-students-at-UC-Davis

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I think it's more a case of this video being plastered everywhere. it's not like it needs more exposure. The silent protest of the chancellor is doing quite well. http://videosift.com/video/UC-Davis-Chancellor-walks-to-her-car-during-silent-protest>> ^Ryjkyj:

What a shame that this has so few votes after three days, even on a website with a reputation like ours.

>> ^Fletch:

>> ^ChaosEngine:
Anyone else reminded of the last scene in The Birds?
Thanks for the Spoiler!


It came out nearly 50 years ago! Besides, it actually doesn't matter. Watch it and you'll see

>> ^ChaosEngine:

Anyone else reminded of the last scene in The Birds?
Thanks for the Spoiler!

There's excellent coverage of this event over at boingboing.net. >> ^Boise_Lib:

@notabrobot Thanks for the link, some good stuff over there.
Here's the picture that will go into the history books.
http://i.imgur.com/J3AE5.jpg