>> ^bareboards2:

promote this: Winston waited for members of the media to gather by his locker after the game, then told them: "If this isn't posted in the paper or run on your (website), this is the last time you're going to talk to me."

As for the Nascar analogy, I don't think the fans CHEER when an accident happens.
I grew up seeing footage of football stadiums going silent when a player was hurt or knocked out, and cheering when they stood up again.
You guys who are justifying the cheering are part of the problem that Eric is talking about. So numb to common human decency that you argue about what he is saying.
Cheer the big hits. Don't cheer a human comatose on the field.
In my opinion. Except Eric is right, and therefore I am right.


I'm sorry but this country is filled with blood thirsty bastards who love it when anyone with brown skin is killed in a horrific fashion. Is it that much of a leap to think they'd cheer a guy they don't like being seriously injured? We're not evolved as much as we'd like to think we are.

*promote this: Winston waited for members of the media to gather by his locker after the game, then told them: "If this isn't posted in the paper or run on your (website), this is the last time you're going to talk to me."


As for the Nascar analogy, I don't think the fans CHEER when an accident happens.

I grew up seeing footage of football stadiums going silent when a player was hurt or knocked out, and cheering when they stood up again.

You guys who are justifying the cheering are part of the problem that Eric is talking about. So numb to common human decency that you argue about what he is saying.

Cheer the big hits. Don't cheer a human comatose on the field.

In my opinion. Except Eric is right, and therefore I am right.

"We're not gladiators, this isn't the roman colosseum."

Maybe not literally but it is the modern Roman Colosseum in a falling Empire. You are wrong Eric Winston, the fans get to vote with their cheers, they get to decide what is worth their time or not. You can scold the masses all you want, but in the end you get paid because of them. That is the reality of the situation. If these people act horribly you should go do something else and I would commend you. Nascar fans don't watch for the NO Crashes, I don't see any of the drivers whining about that. (They probably have, I don't watch Nascar, if they do though they should quit Nascar)

That's where you're wrong, Eric Winston. I only watch football for the injuries (aka, I don't watch it, I watch webclips), just like I only watch hockey matches for the fights; just like I only watch car races for the crashes. It's, arguably, human nature to be in awe of a horrific spectacle, and it's the same with being swept up in what the crowd is feeling.

But, let's call a spade a spade here. Football was born as a sport where people were injured or died as a result of playing the game. It was only after Roosevelt intervened that the sport changed into what one of my students lost his short term memory to.

Ever crouch down and ram your head at something with the full force of your body?
Why are injuries like this surprising?
Why does he act like he's not participating/supporting a sport that systematically abuses players for a profit?
Why the outrage over cheering an injury but the support of the system that throws people into situations that make injuries like this likely?

Awww, there's Stan Winston

I have Iron Man on DVD... Have I never watched it and discovered these special features? Shame on me.

Dr. Peter Venkman: This city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions.
Mayor: What do you mean, "biblical"?

Dr Ray Stantz: What he means is Old Testament, Mr. Mayor, real wrath of God type stuff.

Dr. Peter Venkman: Exactly.

Dr Ray Stantz: Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!

Dr. Egon Spengler: Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes...

Winston Zeddemore: The dead rising from the grave!

Dr. Peter Venkman: Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!

Mayor: All right, all right! I get the point!

Damn winston is crazy as shit.

The only one who had rights under stand your ground? Trayvon Martin, who Stood His Ground against an unidentified armed vigilante and was Executed for it.

You can't start provoke a fight and claim self-defense with these laws. The new evidence showing that Martin fought Zimmerman proves beyond a doubt: Zimmerman is guilty of manslaughter.

Zimmerman had no training, no plan, he was the causative negligent agent whose actions resulted in unnecessary death.

Anyone who can't see why Trayvon had the right under Stand Your Ground that Zimmerman did not, is really lacking upstairs.

Hah, it's quite apt that he's playing the Pink Panther theme, considering the colour of your name and your penchant for kitties

And in the words of Winston Churchill he "makes you proud to be British".

@Darkhand, I have empathy for Zimmermam:

-I understand the feeling of righteous indignation when you feel someone is getting away with something.

-I understand the feeling of apprehensiveness that someone strange is in my neighborhood looking or acting suspicious.

-I understand his ambitions to want a career in a particular field, and performing any viable substitute to prove his worth.

What I don't have sympathy or patience for:

-profiling black people

-Stigmatizing someone without any objective proof

-Carrying a loaded gun in a neighborhood filled with kids, and looking for trouble

and last but not least

-stalking, confronting, and killing an unarmed, teenage boy for NOTHING>> ^Darkhand:

In my opinion If you had empathy for him you'd be standing in the middle like me.
>> ^longde:
Don't put words in my mouth: I never said I hate Zimmerman. I have empathy for even that wretch. I just don't have sympathy for him.
And, you are in effect defending Zimmerman when you reach for explanations that would exonerate him.>> ^Darkhand:
>> ^longde:
I have empathy for all things too; yet I don't find myself defending child killers too often.>> ^Darkhand:
When I said no-one is talking about Zimmermans side I meant the people on this site not the police.
I have empathy for all living things regardless of race or species.


Which brings me back to my original point and Winston's point as well. Everyone thinks that because I offered an alternate version of the story I'm DEFENDING Zimmerman.
You can't have Empathy for all living things and hate Zimmerman those statements are mutually exclusive.

Who get's to define "middle"? You?

In fact, I reject the simplistic framing of this issue that it could have some moral high ground in the "middle". >> ^Darkhand:

In my opinion If you had empathy for him you'd be standing in the middle like me.
>> ^longde:
Don't put words in my mouth: I never said I hate Zimmerman. I have empathy for even that wretch. I just don't have sympathy for him.
And, you are in effect defending Zimmerman when you reach for explanations that would exonerate him.>> ^Darkhand:
>> ^longde:
I have empathy for all things too; yet I don't find myself defending child killers too often.>> ^Darkhand:
When I said no-one is talking about Zimmermans side I meant the people on this site not the police.
I have empathy for all living things regardless of race or species.


Which brings me back to my original point and Winston's point as well. Everyone thinks that because I offered an alternate version of the story I'm DEFENDING Zimmerman.
You can't have Empathy for all living things and hate Zimmerman those statements are mutually exclusive.

In my opinion If you had empathy for him you'd be standing in the middle like me.

>> ^longde:

Don't put words in my mouth: I never said I hate Zimmerman. I have empathy for even that wretch. I just don't have sympathy for him.
And, you are in effect defending Zimmerman when you reach for explanations that would exonerate him.>> ^Darkhand:
>> ^longde:
I have empathy for all things too; yet I don't find myself defending child killers too often.>> ^Darkhand:
When I said no-one is talking about Zimmermans side I meant the people on this site not the police.
I have empathy for all living things regardless of race or species.


Which brings me back to my original point and Winston's point as well. Everyone thinks that because I offered an alternate version of the story I'm DEFENDING Zimmerman.
You can't have Empathy for all living things and hate Zimmerman those statements are mutually exclusive.

Don't put words in my mouth: I never said I hate Zimmerman. I have empathy for even that wretch. I just don't have sympathy for him.

And, you are in effect defending Zimmerman when you reach for explanations that would exonerate him.>> ^Darkhand:

>> ^longde:
I have empathy for all things too; yet I don't find myself defending child killers too often.>> ^Darkhand:
When I said no-one is talking about Zimmermans side I meant the people on this site not the police.
I have empathy for all living things regardless of race or species.


Which brings me back to my original point and Winston's point as well. Everyone thinks that because I offered an alternate version of the story I'm DEFENDING Zimmerman.
You can't have Empathy for all living things and hate Zimmerman those statements are mutually exclusive.

>> ^longde:

I have empathy for all things too; yet I don't find myself defending child killers too often.>> ^Darkhand:
When I said no-one is talking about Zimmermans side I meant the people on this site not the police.
I have empathy for all living things regardless of race or species.



Which brings me back to my original point and Winston's point as well. Everyone thinks that because I offered an alternate version of the story I'm DEFENDING Zimmerman.

You can't have Empathy for all living things and hate Zimmerman those statements are mutually exclusive.

This video needs a little less professor Robert Winston and lot more Peter Weyland.

@direpickle
while i am with winston on some points.
ie:student loans being the next bubble and how a college degree has much less of employment/salary rate

i agree with with you that it is not something that should be set at obama's feet but i was unaware of the changes how the government dealt with those loans.
so i thank you for this new perspective.
seems i need to re-evaluate my position.