>> ^brycewi19:

>> ^dingens:
There's a short story by Arthur C. Clarke on that subject, called "Take a deep breath".

Now you're talking my language. Me and A-Clark (that's my little nickname for him) go way back. Like 5th-grade back. My hero.


Ummm... you ARE aware of why people think he moved to Sri Lanka, aren't you?

I lost already at 1:07 ... Sry, this is too much.

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Yeah, but now she can tell everyone that she got hit by a train!>> ^IronDwarf:

Not surprising at all. It looked like a glancing blow, not that she got hit head on by the train or anything.

There is no footage of the 2004 tsunami initially hitting Sumatra's coast for good reason. It was no doubt filmed, but no one close enough to do so would have survived. The 2004 wave was caused by an earthquake that was 3 to 9 times more powerful than the earthquake which caused the Japanese tsunami.

The Japanese 2011 wave was at its highest around 10 to 12 meters, dwarfed by the 2004 wave, which was up to 30 meters.

http://videosift.com/video/Indonesia-Tsunami-Massive-Surge-Of-Water-And-Debris
This clip is taken of the 2004 wave in Banda Aceh, Sumatra; an area hit by the one of the highest waves. This video shows the wave more than 3 miles from the shore. No one on the shore line would have survived such a monstrous force.


The Japanese public also had significant warning a tsunami was coming, so a lot of them stood on strong, tall buildings for safety. Japan as a whole is well educated about earthquakes and tsunamis, while Indonesians were not. Other than the strong earthquake they felt, there was no warning at all for the Sumatrans as the 2004 wave hit.



>> ^rychan:

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I totally agree. It's amazing how much more footage there is compared to the 2004 Indonesia Tsunami. In fact, I'm not sure I've seen a single video of that Tsunami in Indonesia or Sri Lanka where so many died. There are a few videos in Thailand but they're not showing much. It's such a great boon to scientists and public awareness.

I hate to be a dick, but footage wise this tsunami couldn't have hit a better country.

Just incredible footage here too, immensely scary.
>> ^rychan:

>> ^bareboards2:
This is probably the scariest of any I have seen. I can't imagine what that camera operator must have been thinking -- there seemed to be no place else to go, and the water kept rising. And still they shot that incredible footage.
Every time I see one of these, I think -- wow, do we have an incredible archive of material for scientists to study on how tsunamis actually work.
Amazing. Scary. Wow.

I totally agree. It's amazing how much more footage there is compared to the 2004 Indonesia Tsunami. In fact, I'm not sure I've seen a single video of that Tsunami in Indonesia or Sri Lanka where so many died. There are a few videos in Thailand but they're not showing much. It's such a great boon to scientists and public awareness.

>> ^bareboards2:

This is probably the scariest of any I have seen. I can't imagine what that camera operator must have been thinking -- there seemed to be no place else to go, and the water kept rising. And still they shot that incredible footage.
Every time I see one of these, I think -- wow, do we have an incredible archive of material for scientists to study on how tsunamis actually work.
Amazing. Scary. Wow.


I totally agree. It's amazing how much more footage there is compared to the 2004 Indonesia Tsunami. In fact, I'm not sure I've seen a single video of that Tsunami in Indonesia or Sri Lanka where so many died. There are a few videos in Thailand but they're not showing much. It's such a great boon to scientists and public awareness.

Now its going to be Japan aid, every year something like this happens, Haiti, Katrina, Sri Lanka etc..

Their infrastructure is going to be raped once this is over and done with.

@WKB

True, but when the Columbine school shooting was perpetrated, conservatives were quick to point the finger at Marilyn Manson's lyrics. I'm not saying they were right, and I'm not saying that Fox deserves all of the blame here either.

I do think though, that the people pumping that kind of rhetoric onto the airwaves deserve SOME responsibility for atrocities like this. Allow me to compare the Woodstock of 1970 to the Woodstock of '99 for an example.

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>>>>>>The 1970 Woodstock (billed as "3 days of Peace and Music") resulted in reports like this:

"The New York Times covered the prelude to the festival and the move from Wallkill to Bethel.[13] Barnard Collier, who reported from the event for the Times, asserts that he was pressured by on-duty editors at the paper to write a misleadingly negative article about the event. According to Collier, this led to acrimonious discussions and his threat to refuse to write the article until the paper's executive editor, James Reston, agreed to let him write the article as he saw fit. The eventual article dealt with issues of traffic jams and minor lawbreaking, but went on to emphasize cooperation, generosity, and the good nature of the festival goers.

When the festival was over, Collier wrote another article about the exodus of fans from the festival site and the lack of violence at the event. The chief medical officer for the event and several local residents were quoted as praising the festival goers."

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>>>>>>The 1999 version of the event (featuring bands like Metallica, Rage Against the Machine, Korn, Limp Bizkit, Kid Rock and the Red Hot Chili Peppers who are all, dare I say, a bit angrier [lyrically speaking] than the likes of Arlo Guthrie or Joan Baez) is painted in a much different color:

"Some crowd violence and looting was reported during the Saturday night performance by Limp Bizkit, including a rendition of the song "Break Stuff". Reviewers of the concert criticized Limp Bizkit frontman Fred Durst as "irresponsible" for encouraging the crowd to destructive behavior.

Violence escalated the next night during the final hours of the concert as Red Hot Chili Peppers performed. A group of peace promoters led by an independent group called Pax had distributed candles to those stopping at their booth during the day, intending them for a candlelight vigil to be held during the Red Hot Chili Peppers' performance of the song "Under the Bridge". During the band's set, the crowd began to light the candles, some also using them to start bonfires. The hundreds of empty plastic water bottles that littered the lawn/dance area were used as fuel for the fire.

After the Red Hot Chili Peppers were finished with their main set, the audience was informed about "a bit of a problem." An audio tower caught fire, and the fire department was called in to extinguish it.

Back onstage for an encore, the Chili Peppers' lead singer Anthony Kiedis remarked how amazing the fires looked from the stage, comparing them to a scene in the film Apocalypse Now.[12] The band proceeded to play "Sir Psycho Sexy", followed by their rendition of Jimi Hendrix's "Fire". Kiedis later stated in his autobiography, Scar Tissue that Jimi Hendrix's sister had asked the Chili Peppers to play "Fire" in honor of Jimi and his performance at the original Woodstock festival, and that they were not playing it to encourage the crowd.

Many large bonfires were burning high before the band left the stage for the last time. Participants danced in circles around the fires. Looking for more fuel, some tore off panels of plywood from the supposedly inviolable security perimeter fence. ATMs were tipped over and broken into, trailers full of merchandise and equipment were forced open and burglarized, and abandoned vendor booths were turned over, and set afire.[13]

MTV, which had been providing live coverage, removed its entire crew. MTV host Kurt Loder described the scene in the July 27, 1999 issue of USA Today:

"It was dangerous to be around. The whole scene was scary. There were just waves of hatred bouncing around the place, (...) It was clear we had to get out of there.... It was like a concentration camp. To get in, you get frisked to make sure you're not bringing in any water or food that would prevent you from buying from their outrageously priced booths. You wallow around in garbage and human waste. There was a palpable mood of anger."

After some time, a large force of New York State Troopers, local police, and various other law enforcement arrived. Most had crowd control gear and proceeded to form a riot-line that flushed the crowd to the northwest, away from the stage located at the eastern end of the airfield. Few of the crowd offered strong resistance and they dispersed quickly back toward the campground and out the main entrance."

>>>>>>See also, this poignant response from a person in the crowd: http://newsroom.mtv.com/2009/08/17/woodstock-legacy/ (crowdmember comments @ 2:20)

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Now now easy there big fella, before you start telling me about how correlation does not imply causation consider this: an article recently published by the American Journal of Psychiatry concluded that:

"Childhood exposure to parental verbal aggression was associated, by itself, with moderate to large effects on measures of dissociation, limbic irritability, depression, and anger-hostility." Furthermore, "Combined exposure to verbal abuse and witnessing of domestic violence was associated with extraordinarily large adverse effects, particularly on dissociation. This finding is consonant with studies that suggest that emotional abuse may be a more important precursor of dissociation than is sexual abuse."
See: http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/163/6/993

Maybe not the best example I could have found but I've already spent WAY too much time on this post. The point is, WORDS carry a lot of power. Even if the pundits (right OR left) never came out and said it, the implication of violence was certainly there at times.

I KNOW Fox has lead the charge of fear mongering in the name of ratings but anyone else who subscribed to that level of attack should share some of the blame as well. Again, not saying that they should take all or even a lot of the blame, but they should be responsible for the violent laced rhetoric they spout.

I say STOP THE AD HOMINEM ATTACKS and we'll see less violence against PEOPLE and (hopefully) more enthralling arguments where the IDEAS are being attacked (which I'm all for) :-)

p.s. sry for the huge post but i was on a roll

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The observed arc of the bullet is insane. This is how we used to hunt miniature horses back in Sri Lanka.

While indiscriminate spraying of DDT is obviously stupid and dangerous, the rise in worldwide malaria rates in response to the restrictions on DDTs use have killed hundreds of thousands to millions of humans.

Now, unfortunately, it's too late. Like not using all of one's prescribed antibiotics, we allowed mosquitoes to develop a resistance to DDT when we stopped using it and it doesn't work anymore (at least not as well).

By the early 1960s we had malaria cases in India down to almost zero from 75 Million in 1947. Sri Lanka went from 2.8 million cases in 1946 to 17 cases in 1963. Malaria was on the verge of extinction in these places.

Then we lost DDT thanks to Rachel Carson's "Silent Spring". By 1976 there were 6.4 million cases in India. Today it sits between 2 and 3 million cases a year and India is one of the luckier ones. Throughout most of sub-Saharan Africa more than 50% of all children are infected. In Zambia, in 2005, there were 1353 cases for every 1000 children under 5 years old. That means a huge percent of the children are infected more than once a year.

Was DDT dangerous to spray indiscriminately? Absolutely. Was it saving millions of lives? Without a doubt.

>> ^ButterflyKisses:

Sry, I was just kidding Yogi. I agree with you, these people are going way too far and should be arrested.



It's cool I was a bit reactionary being so pissed off about these people, I'll put away my noose faxes now.

Sry, I was just kidding Yogi. I agree with you, these people are going way too far and should be arrested.

you people and your stereotypes....Testosterone is the least of your worries when you dissuade vigilantism of any kind in this day and age of illusory safety and comfort, and fair and level moralities for everyone...welcome to the world of the real-or, go live in bumfuck Idaho, Vancouver, or Sri Lanka-How about Singapore..where the punishment of spitting gum on the street fits the crime of caning??...