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Truth About Transitional Species Fossils

shinyblurry says...

This video is complete fantasy. Take the evolutionary animation for instance..none of that is supported in the fossil record. All of those transitions are completely inference, especially ape to man. If you believe that, you are thick..do your own investigation. There isn't any conclusive evidence for ape to man evolution what so ever.

And you don't think they're looking for true transitionals? Why do you think evolutionists trotted out piltdown man and nebraska man as proof of evolution for over 50 years, and why today the desperate search is still on to find the missing link. They thought it was neanderthal man but it turned out to be a guy with arthritus and rickets. The fossil record isn't just incomplete, it is ludicrously so..with hundreds of millions of them uncovered yet no true transitionals. I'll let real palentologists explain it to you:

Our museums now contain hundreds of millions of fossil specimens (40 million alone are contained in the Smithsonian Natural History Museum). If Darwin's theory were true, we should see at least tens of millions of unquestionable transitional forms. We see none. Even the late Stephen Jay Gould, Professor of Geology and Paleontology at Harvard University and the leading spokesman for evolutionary theory prior to his recent death, confessed "the extreme rarity of transitional forms in the fossil record persists as the trade secret of paleontology."

He continues:

The history of most fossil species includes two features inconsistent with gradualism: 1. Statis. Most species exhibit no directional change during their tenure on earth. They appear in the fossil record looking much the same as when they disappear… 2. Sudden Appearance. In any local area, a species does not arise gradually by the steady transformation of its ancestors; it appears all at once and 'fully formed'. 6 The evolutionary trees that adorn our textbooks have data only at the tips and nodes of their branches; the rest is inference, however reasonable, not the evidence of fossils. 7

The British Museum of Natural History boasts the largest collection of fossils in the world. Among the five respected museum officials, Sunderland interviewed Dr. Colin Patterson, Senior Paleontologist at the British Museum and editor of a prestigious scientific journal. Patterson is a well known expert having an intimate knowledge of the fossil record. He was unable to give a single example of Macro-Evolutionary transition. In fact, Patterson wrote a book for the British Museum of Natural History entitled, "Evolution". When asked why he had not included a single photograph of a transitional fossil in his book, Patterson responded:

...I fully agree with your comments on the lack of direct illustration of evolutionary transitions in my book. If I knew of any, fossil or living, I would certainly have included them. You suggest that an artist should be used to visualize such transformations, but where would he get the information from? I could not, honestly, provide it, and if I were to leave it to artistic license, would that not mislead the reader? I wrote the text of my book four years ago. If I were to write it now, I think the book would be rather different. Gradualism is a concept I believe in, not just because of Darwin's authority, but because my understanding of genetics seems to demand it. Yet Gould and the American Museum people are hard to contradict when they say there are no transitional fossils. As a paleontologist myself, I am much occupied with the philosophical problems of identifying ancestral forms in the fossil record. You say that I should at least "show a photo of the fossil from which each type of organism was derived." I will lay it on the line - there is not one such fossil for which one could make a watertight argument. 2

David B. Kitts. PhD (Zoology) is Head Curator of the Department of Geology at the Stoval Museum. In an evolutionary trade journal, he wrote:

Despite the bright promise that paleontology provides a means of "seeing" evolution, it has presented some nasty difficulties for evolutionists, the most notorious of which is the presence of "gaps" in the fossil record. Evolution requires intermediate forms between species and paleontology does not provide them… 3

N. Heribert Nilsson, a famous botanist, evolutionist and professor at Lund University in Sweden, continues:

My attempts to demonstrate evolution by an experiment carried on for more than 40 years have completely failed… The fossil material is now so complete that it has been possible to construct new classes, and the lack of transitional series cannot be explained as being due to scarcity of material. The deficiencies are real, they will never be filled. 4

Even the popular press is catching on. This is from an article in Newsweek magazine:

The missing link between man and apes, whose absence has comforted religious fundamentalists since the days of Darwin, is merely the most glamorous of a whole hierarchy of phantom creatures … The more scientists have searched for the transitional forms that lie between species, the more they have been frustrated. 5

Wake up people..your belief in evolution is purely metaphysical and requires faith. I suppose if you don't think about it too hard it makes sense. It's the same thing with abiogenesis..pure metaphysics.

Now, after over 120 years of the most extensive and painstaking geological exploration of every continent and ocean bottom, the picture is infinitely more vivid and complete than it was in 1859. Formations have been discovered containing hundreds of billions of fossils and our museums are filled with over 100 million fossils of 250,000 different species.

The availability of this profusion of hard scientific data should permit objective investigators to determine if Darwin was on the right track. What is the picture which the fossils have given us?… The gaps between major groups of organisms have been growing even wider and more undeniable. They can no longer be ignored or rationalized away with appeals to imperfection of the fossil record. 2


You've been had..be intellectually honest enough to admit it and seek out the truth. Science does not support evolution.

Police State: Arrested For Dancing in the Jefferson Memorial

Skeeve says...

I disagree.

Yes, dancing at Arlington or the Vietnam Veterans memorial would be disrespectful, there's just one problem with your examples - the Jefferson Memorial isn't a cemetery or war memorial.

The Jefferson Memorial is memorializing Thomas Jefferson, the Declaration of Independence and the victory of liberty over tyranny. On a frieze below the dome is inscribed, "I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man," and Jefferson's statue is surrounded by other quotes about freedom.

The monument is a celebration of freedom (one of the greatest concepts in existence) and the actions of one mighty individual in the pursuit of that freedom. I believe it's only right to feel a massive sense of joy and wonder in seeing the memorial and appreciating how lucky we are that men like that lived and that people are/were willing to stand up for liberty.
>> ^Opus_Moderandi:

>> ^Skeeve:
Just throwing this out there, but doesn't it say something about a society when its monuments (let alone monuments to liberty) are so worshiped and sacred that there are laws made to enforce their sanctity?
When monuments that should be inherently joyful and full of wonder become places where only 'sober and respectful reflection' is allowed something is wrong.

Once again, it's called RESPECT. These monuments are not "inherently joyful and full of wonder". You're thinking of the Smithsonian museums.
The monuments are reminders of what this country had to go through to get where it's at today. What is inherently joyful about war and struggle? Dancing at this monument is like spraying graffiti on the Vietnam Veterans memorial or pissing on graves in Arlington cemetery. You just don't do it. At least, mature adults don't.

Police State: Arrested For Dancing in the Jefferson Memorial

Opus_Moderandi says...

>> ^Skeeve:

Just throwing this out there, but doesn't it say something about a society when its monuments (let alone monuments to liberty) are so worshiped and sacred that there are laws made to enforce their sanctity?
When monuments that should be inherently joyful and full of wonder become places where only 'sober and respectful reflection' is allowed something is wrong.


Once again, it's called RESPECT. These monuments are not "inherently joyful and full of wonder". You're thinking of the Smithsonian museums.

The monuments are reminders of what this country had to go through to get where it's at today. What is inherently joyful about war and struggle? Dancing at this monument is like spraying graffiti on the Vietnam Veterans memorial or pissing on graves in Arlington cemetery. You just don't do it. At least, mature adults don't.

BP Rent a Cop Halts Media Coverage

Lawdeedaw says...

My point is not to dispute that they are contracted people with licenses by the state or some such. I only wonder if you bunch all people into the prejudice "same thing to me" mind frame you apply to rent-a-cops. I mean, if you apply blanket concepts to them, can you really blame others for just as irrational applications to other peoples or occupations? Are all black people the same? All Jews? All farmers of the south? All..., wait, did I say you applied a prejudice assumption? Of course I did... You look at their uniform and your opinion---that they are all rent-a-fake-cops or rent-a-cops---is already set. Isn't that prejudice?
Okay, so back to my point. I never try and apply "same thing to me" principles to anyone or anything...

>> ^NordlichReiter:
>> ^Lawdeedaw:
Well, somehow I do not believe this monkey-of-a-non-special-police-officer has taken law enforcement training, and that he is given city wide jurisdiction which falls on this beach. Soooo, he is not a Company Police or Special Police as such. In other words, he has no arrest nor detention powers even in Virginia. In more other words, he does NOTHING of what a police officer does. In even more other words, he is not a rent-a-cop. If you want to specifically denote rent-a-cops to special and company police, so be it. I cannot refute that logic. Same as rent-a-teachers and all companies that use contractors.
In fact, by the same logic you used, the electricians and computer IT guys in Iraq could be considered rent-a-soldiers by your definition...
Problem is, regular security does not do what police do--in practice or by law. Same with IT and other contractors for the military. They provide different services. Even if they carry guns for protection---like class G security guards in Florida.
Yes, I know about class G and all the stuff you point to as "evidence" to your point of view. However, it is moot. You are too intellectual for this meaningless point behind the debate. I am not trying to be the rightest here---just trying to get rid of a degrading term applied to a working class of individuals who are not all bad.
>> ^NordlichReiter:
>> ^Lawdeedaw:
I hate the term rent-a-cop. It is like saying rent-a-teacher for subs, rent-a-doctor for RNPs, or rent-a-fags for bi-sexual men. There is no such thing as a rent-a-cop. There is a security guard... Some have complexes but that goes with being human.

Contracting Security Officer. Exactly what it is. Rent-A-Cop. There are several varieties of them; which vary from state to state. Generally there are two types of Security Officers; the unarmed kind and the armed kind. They come in many colors. There's the BDU or Fatigue color, the ugly sports coat gray slacks color, and the polo shirt tactical khaki pants color. Although in the wild many different version of these colors can be observed.
In the District of Columbia there are Special Police which are known as Smithsonian Museum Special Police in NY & DC. For a basis on how security officers work see the second link to the Virginia Department of Criminal Justice.
As an independent contractor you can go through the hoops yourself, but most people choose to join companies, which sort out all of the paperwork for each employee.
Make no mistake about it. These are privately owned corporate entities. I was going to say that they are bound to the law just as much as a Peace Officer but, of course, the trends of late could prove differently.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_officer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_police#United_States
http://www.dcjs.virginia.gov/pss/howto/registrations/armedSecurit
yOfficer.cfm


I never said he had the legal right or obligation to do jack shit. All security officers have to abide by state law and federal laws.
If you had read my comment more carefully you would see just how much you are reading into my opinion which was created fully in your head.
In order to be a lawfully licensed security guard(officer) you have to have abide by the states laws, and take their required classes. IT, and Soldiers that do not hold licenses issued by a state, which requires it, are in violation of that state's law.
Half the time security guards don't know the first thing about Civil Rights, or the difference between Private Property and Public Property or where the lines between private and public blur (like the side walks in front of a building).
Now to the point, I maintain that is exactly what they are. Contracted personnel to do a job. Call it rent-a-fake-cop, or call it a contracted security officer. Means the same to me. Words are just words, until they are made into something which they are not.

BP Rent a Cop Halts Media Coverage

NordlichReiter says...

>> ^Lawdeedaw:

Well, somehow I do not believe this monkey-of-a-non-special-police-officer has taken law enforcement training, and that he is given city wide jurisdiction which falls on this beach. Soooo, he is not a Company Police or Special Police as such. In other words, he has no arrest nor detention powers even in Virginia. In more other words, he does NOTHING of what a police officer does. In even more other words, he is not a rent-a-cop. If you want to specifically denote rent-a-cops to special and company police, so be it. I cannot refute that logic. Same as rent-a-teachers and all companies that use contractors.
In fact, by the same logic you used, the electricians and computer IT guys in Iraq could be considered rent-a-soldiers by your definition...
Problem is, regular security does not do what police do--in practice or by law. Same with IT and other contractors for the military. They provide different services. Even if they carry guns for protection---like class G security guards in Florida.
Yes, I know about class G and all the stuff you point to as "evidence" to your point of view. However, it is moot. You are too intellectual for this meaningless point behind the debate. I am not trying to be the rightest here---just trying to get rid of a degrading term applied to a working class of individuals who are not all bad.

>> ^NordlichReiter:
>> ^Lawdeedaw:
I hate the term rent-a-cop. It is like saying rent-a-teacher for subs, rent-a-doctor for RNPs, or rent-a-fags for bi-sexual men. There is no such thing as a rent-a-cop. There is a security guard... Some have complexes but that goes with being human.

Contracting Security Officer. Exactly what it is. Rent-A-Cop. There are several varieties of them; which vary from state to state. Generally there are two types of Security Officers; the unarmed kind and the armed kind. They come in many colors. There's the BDU or Fatigue color, the ugly sports coat gray slacks color, and the polo shirt tactical khaki pants color. Although in the wild many different version of these colors can be observed.
In the District of Columbia there are Special Police which are known as Smithsonian Museum Special Police in NY & DC. For a basis on how security officers work see the second link to the Virginia Department of Criminal Justice.
As an independent contractor you can go through the hoops yourself, but most people choose to join companies, which sort out all of the paperwork for each employee.
Make no mistake about it. These are privately owned corporate entities. I was going to say that they are bound to the law just as much as a Peace Officer but, of course, the trends of late could prove differently.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_officer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_police#United_States
http://www.dcjs.virginia.gov/pss/howto/registrations/armedSecurit
yOfficer.cfm



I never said he had the legal right or obligation to do jack shit. All security officers have to abide by state law and federal laws.

If you had read my comment more carefully you would see just how much you are reading into my opinion which was created fully in your head.

In order to be a lawfully licensed security guard(officer) you have to have abide by the states laws, and take their required classes. IT, and Soldiers that do not hold licenses issued by a state, which requires it, are in violation of that state's law.

Half the time security guards don't know the first thing about Civil Rights, or the difference between Private Property and Public Property or where the lines between private and public blur (like the side walks in front of a building).

Now to the point, I maintain that is exactly what they are. Contracted personnel to do a job. Call it rent-a-fake-cop, or call it a contracted security officer. Means the same to me. Words are just words, until they are made into something which they are not.

BP Rent a Cop Halts Media Coverage

Lawdeedaw says...

Well, somehow I do not believe this monkey-of-a-non-special-police-officer has taken law enforcement training, and that he is given city wide jurisdiction which falls on this beach. Soooo, he is not a Company Police or Special Police as such. In other words, he has no arrest nor detention powers even in Virginia. In more other words, he does NOTHING of what a police officer does. In even more other words, he is not a rent-a-cop. If you want to specifically denote rent-a-cops to special and company police, so be it. I cannot refute that logic. Same as rent-a-teachers and all companies that use contractors.

In fact, by the same logic you used, the electricians and computer IT guys in Iraq could be considered rent-a-soldiers by your definition...

Problem is, regular security does not do what police do--in practice or by law. Same with IT and other contractors for the military. They provide different services. Even if they carry guns for protection---like class G security guards in Florida.

Yes, I know about class G and all the stuff you point to as "evidence" to your point of view. However, it is moot. You are too intellectual for this meaningless point behind the debate. I am not trying to be the rightest here---just trying to get rid of a degrading term applied to a working class of individuals who are not all bad.


>> ^NordlichReiter:
>> ^Lawdeedaw:
I hate the term rent-a-cop. It is like saying rent-a-teacher for subs, rent-a-doctor for RNPs, or rent-a-fags for bi-sexual men. There is no such thing as a rent-a-cop. There is a security guard... Some have complexes but that goes with being human.

Contracting Security Officer. Exactly what it is. Rent-A-Cop. There are several varieties of them; which vary from state to state. Generally there are two types of Security Officers; the unarmed kind and the armed kind. They come in many colors. There's the BDU or Fatigue color, the ugly sports coat gray slacks color, and the polo shirt tactical khaki pants color. Although in the wild many different version of these colors can be observed.
In the District of Columbia there are Special Police which are known as Smithsonian Museum Special Police in NY & DC. For a basis on how security officers work see the second link to the Virginia Department of Criminal Justice.
As an independent contractor you can go through the hoops yourself, but most people choose to join companies, which sort out all of the paperwork for each employee.
Make no mistake about it. These are privately owned corporate entities. I was going to say that they are bound to the law just as much as a Peace Officer but, of course, the trends of late could prove differently.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_officer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_police#United_States
http://www.dcjs.virginia.gov/pss/howto/registrations/armedSecurityOfficer.cfm

BP Rent a Cop Halts Media Coverage

NordlichReiter says...

>> ^Lawdeedaw:

I hate the term rent-a-cop. It is like saying rent-a-teacher for subs, rent-a-doctor for RNPs, or rent-a-fags for bi-sexual men. There is no such thing as a rent-a-cop. There is a security guard... Some have complexes but that goes with being human.


Contracting Security Officer. Exactly what it is. Rent-A-Cop. There are several varieties of them; which vary from state to state. Generally there are two types of Security Officers; the unarmed kind and the armed kind. They come in many colors. There's the BDU or Fatigue color, the ugly sports coat gray slacks color, and the polo shirt tactical khaki pants color. Although in the wild many different version of these colors can be observed.

In the District of Columbia there are Special Police which are known as Smithsonian Museum Special Police in NY & DC. For a basis on how security officers work see the second link to the Virginia Department of Criminal Justice.

As an independent contractor you can go through the hoops yourself, but most people choose to join companies, which sort out all of the paperwork for each employee.

Make no mistake about it. These are privately owned corporate entities. I was going to say that they are bound to the law just as much as a Peace Officer but, of course, the trends of late could prove differently.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_officer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_police#United_States
http://www.dcjs.virginia.gov/pss/howto/registrations/armedSecurityOfficer.cfm

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Xaielao says...

I was at the Natural History Museum - Smithsonian when the smaller carnivore was there (looks kinda like some kind of Raptor to me, not sure the exact species.) My two nieces (5 and 7) were FREAKING OUT lol. They loved it. Who ever was controlling it you could see clearly, though they had black stockings on to obscure the legs better.

But very cool, very lifelike. The fog works good to cover the large structure between the big dino's legs for stability.

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budzos says...

Sounds like you're involved in some pretty interesting circles!

In reply to this comment by honkeytonk73:
Yes, a really nice guy. His talk was quite 'out there' by most standards, but a man of his stature most definitely has the right to go out on a limb with ideas that challenge the establishment and help foster alternative ways of thinking. If you check the twitter for 'exoplanetology.org', they have a pretty good running commentary on what was discussed Friday/Saturday during the crossroads conference at Harvard.

I also met Prof David Charbonneau, one of the leading astronomers in the search for exoplanets. Really nice guy as well. I got some pointers on how I could contribute to the search. Being an amateur astronomer/astrophotographer, I wanted to try to get more involved and help provide observations/data. Of course I suspect I have a bit of a learning curve to climb, but that is half the fun.

They have a month of science in Cambridge/Harvard every year. With events, talks and the like. I suspect they'll try to put together another such event next year. Search for the harvard smithsonian center for astrophysics. A person by the name of Christine Pulliam has a mailing list for sponsored events.. from talks by scientists, to SciFi B-Movie night. Quite funny. Sometimes these talks are webcast, so for certain events you don't have to be local!

budzos (Member Profile)

honkeytonk73 says...

Yes, a really nice guy. His talk was quite 'out there' by most standards, but a man of his stature most definitely has the right to go out on a limb with ideas that challenge the establishment and help foster alternative ways of thinking. If you check the twitter for 'exoplanetology.org', they have a pretty good running commentary on what was discussed Friday/Saturday during the crossroads conference at Harvard.

I also met Prof David Charbonneau, one of the leading astronomers in the search for exoplanets. Really nice guy as well. I got some pointers on how I could contribute to the search. Being an amateur astronomer/astrophotographer, I wanted to try to get more involved and help provide observations/data. Of course I suspect I have a bit of a learning curve to climb, but that is half the fun.

They have a month of science in Cambridge/Harvard every year. With events, talks and the like. I suspect they'll try to put together another such event next year. Search for the harvard smithsonian center for astrophysics. A person by the name of Christine Pulliam has a mailing list for sponsored events.. from talks by scientists, to SciFi B-Movie night. Quite funny. Sometimes these talks are webcast, so for certain events you don't have to be local!


In reply to this comment by budzos:
Really? You met Freeman Dyson? That's fucking awesome! He's one of my heroes!

In reply to this comment by honkeytonk73:
VERY nice clip. Surprised to see Professor Freeman Dyson there. I just met the man just a days ago. We were both heading to the same place, and accompanied him to a talk near Harvard College. He was among a few other amazing speakers. They discussed the future of mankind, the search for exoplanets, detecting live elsewhere and the like.



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