It's my second time being hobbled. How many have you been in for? One? Pffft. You don't grow hair on your testicles until you're hobbled at least twice.

In reply to this comment by rottenseed:
Pfff being hobbled is a rite of passage. Suck it up and join the men of the community.


...and issykitty

Pfff being hobbled is a rite of passage. Suck it up and join the men of the community.


...and issykitty

>> ^Sarzy:
>> ^sillma:
Funny how it still seems to be that men have to be loathed when they use masturbation toys when for women it's like a rite of passage to adulthood.

That's because men are born with two perfect masturbation toys attached to their arms. Buying an additional one is just a waste of money.


Yeah, but toys are fun! Why use just your hands when there's so much else to stick it in, on, around, under, through and up.

>> ^sillma:
Funny how it still seems to be that men have to be loathed when they use masturbation toys when for women it's like a rite of passage to adulthood.


That's because men are born with two perfect masturbation toys attached to their arms. Buying an additional one is just a waste of money.

Funny how it still seems to be that men have to be loathed when they use masturbation toys when for women it's like a rite of passage to adulthood.

On the Road is a rite of passage.

It is quintessentially American.

It is innocent and earnest and brave, and for the most part, true.

There was a mythos in the story that reminds us of the mythos in our lives.

They get around to a lot of very good points. The bit about the end of schooling as a rite of passage is interesting... But kids, like all people, will always react opposite to the coercion they experience, I guess.

>> ^rottenseed:
Being abused by Choggie is a rite of passage here on the sift. So is being ass-raped by blankfist.


Yeah, from my time as a lurker here, I've come to know that chuggie and quantum are colossal nitwits, so I'll wear my downvote like a badge of honor, and keep my third-eye fixed on sir buttfist.

(still: CFR = WTC7)

>> ^volumptuous:
Oh, that's nice. I get downvoted for stating my opinion on the overhyped nonsense that is CFR.
Nice doin' biz with ya fellas.

Being abused by Choggie is a rite of passage here on the sift. So is being ass-raped by blankfist.

Well other than the immediate economic activity that the Olympics create, it's more or less seen as a long term PR investment for the country in attracting venture capitalists and foreign direct investment. Other than that, the symbolic step of hosting the olympics is essentially an inaugural rite of passage for joining the international community, and again any agreements that aids in negotioating further trade contribute to long term prosperity.

From my post in the other, duplicate-sift version of this:

I can't believe none of you have gone car door skiing in the rain. You have no lives. It's a rite of passage.

A friend of mine had his cruise control on a wired remote so he could do this while driving the car with us out the other three doors... this was before the YouTube... heck, it was before the Interwebs. Wish I had the cash back then to film it (no such thing as digital imaging).

^That's why they keep raising their feet.

I can't believe none of you have gone car door skiing in the rain. You have no lives. It's a rite of passage.

I have nothing against natural birth - as I said in my original comment it's ultimately the womans choice. I do however dislike biased videos that make women feel guilty for not going the route of natural birth and portray alternatives as wrong and harmful for the mother and the baby.

In reply to your comment:
“ You're right, redthing, women should be able to choose how they want to birth. Your linked article is in promotion of elective caesarian and states that 1 in 4 women make this choice for good reasons.

Women at high risk make this choice wisely, however I would argue that if a woman chooses this option to avoid the trauma of a natural birth, then she is not making an informed choice, because there is significant and prolonged pain after a caesarian and the risks of damage occurring to the woman or the baby are not negligible.

Have you ever seen one performed?

Providing they get the epidural right and don't have to repeat the procedure too often (it's not fun when they bungle attempts) and that the anesthetic is working properly, the woman won't feel the incision, but she will feel them wrestling the baby out, because it's not an easy chore to extract several pounds of newborn and placenta from a ten inch incision (they are getting so good at the bikini cut, but it's just SO tight)

Hopefully the anesthetic is still going strong while they sew up the uterus and shove it all back in. The woman may not be too out of it by then to see the baby held before her face, before they race it off for intubation, weighing, washing etc, but if she was as stressed out as women I have seen, they could knock her out for a while until it's all over.

Of course the pain doesn't end there. Any time the pain-killers wear off over the next few weeks, she'll get a little reminder that she's just had major surgery. She may not be able to walk erect for a while (days to weeks) because the stitches hurt and pull. And then there's her tender lap that is pretty painful to get a baby resting comfortably on while she struggles to breastfeed.

Finally, there's emotional pain to deal with. Like any labour there're the joys and sorrows of the experience. I believe birth shold be an empowering experience, a woman's rite of passage. I would argue that she cannot be empowered when her experience renders her a vessel from which a baby is removed, especially when the choice for caesarian was made simply to avoid pain.

You might think I'm painting a worst-case scenario here, but I haven't mentioned the serious damage the woman and baby could endure. I'll leave it up to any woman reading this to educate herself about those statistics, if she feels she needs to be informed, of course.

In reply to your comment:
“Ultimately it's the womans choice.
People need to recognise the diversity of birth experiences.
””

You're right, redthing, women should be able to choose how they want to birth. Your linked article is in promotion of elective caesarian and states that 1 in 4 women make this choice for good reasons.

Women at high risk make this choice wisely, however I would argue that if a woman chooses this option to avoid the trauma of a natural birth, then she is not making an informed choice, because there is significant and prolonged pain after a caesarian and the risks of damage occurring to the woman or the baby are not negligible.

Have you ever seen one performed?

Providing they get the epidural right and don't have to repeat the procedure too often (it's not fun when they bungle attempts) and that the anesthetic is working properly, the woman won't feel the incision, but she will feel them wrestling the baby out, because it's not an easy chore to extract several pounds of newborn and placenta from a ten inch incision (they are getting so good at the bikini cut, but it's just SO tight)

Hopefully the anesthetic is still going strong while they sew up the uterus and shove it all back in. The woman may not be too out of it by then to see the baby held before her face, before they race it off for intubation, weighing, washing etc, but if she was as stressed out as women I have seen, they could knock her out for a while until it's all over.

Of course the pain doesn't end there. Any time the pain-killers wear off over the next few weeks, she'll get a little reminder that she's just had major surgery. She may not be able to walk erect for a while (days to weeks) because the stitches hurt and pull. And then there's her tender lap that is pretty painful to get a baby resting comfortably on while she struggles to breastfeed.

Finally, there's emotional pain to deal with. Like any labour there're the joys and sorrows of the experience. I believe birth shold be an empowering experience, a woman's rite of passage. I would argue that she cannot be empowered when her experience renders her a vessel from which a baby is removed, especially when the choice for caesarian was made simply to avoid pain.

You might think I'm painting a worst-case scenario here, but I haven't mentioned the serious damage the woman and baby could endure. I'll leave it up to any woman reading this to educate herself about those statistics, if she feels she needs to be informed, of course.