*happy, *dance
Saw his show live in Oslo - it was a complete blast!

Now this is a smokin' hot dame and the band is for sure a class AAA live act.
I'm on my way home from a live concert in Oslo with Postmodern Jukebox - and just guess who miss Savales there sang this very number for and almost pulled up on stage, if not this humble sifter?
*quality, *promote

This video was talking about Norway, and the Norwegian system, and although there are some similarities with Sweden it would be a bit like me suggesting that Canada is unsafe because of crime in the U.S.A.

One thing that does stand out when looking at both countries is that they are very small. Norway has approximately the population of Melbourne (or Los Angeles) and Sweden is approximately New York City (or Melbourne and Sydney combined)... and of course there is more crime in the larger cities like Oslo than in smaller towns.

Thanks for your comment since, despite not entirely agreeing with your original statement because I think the topic is a little more complicated than that, I have learned something (about both Norway and Sweden)

I saw this show in Oslo, it was fucking brilliant, and I'll confess I'll probably watch this illegally now, but I'll be buying it when it comes available on http://buy.louisck.net , just like I've bought everything there. I might even pick up a few copies as gifts from said website. Louis CK is an awesome performer, and his no-nonsense business model is nearly as awesome as his act. You should all be buying all his shit.

Yes! This song is catchy. And some beautiful shots of Oslo in the background.

It's true that pure capitalism works for some, it's very popular in Mogadishu and amongst warring species of coral.

As for Europe, were you thinking of Berlin, Athens, Oslo or Copenhagen? Because those last 2 are the closest thing to a non-vampiric success story in human social construction.

>> ^quantumushroom:


That's not my viewpoint, however I am extremely skeptical of the so-called "Third Way". Socialism always fails, and capitalism fails when oversaturated with socialism. Look at Europe.

That looks like a majestic møøse.

You know, a Møøse once bit my sister ...

No realli! She was Karving her initials on the møøse with the sharpened end of an interspace tøøthbrush given her by Svenge - her brother-in-law - an Oslo dentist and star of many Norwegian møvies: "The Høt Hands of an Oslo Dentist", "Fillings of Passion", "The Huge Mølars of Horst Nordfink".

Møøse bites Kan be pretty nasti ...

Maybe we can invite the Oslo shooter to this camp also.

We definitely need to invite the Oslo shooter to Weatherford Democratic Summer Camp for teens.

Id probably send the Oslo shooter to the democratic summer camp first though

>> ^bcglorf:
>> ^newtboy:
One more reminder to all the right wing "christians" that jumped on the "islamic terrorist" bandwagon the second a car blew up, this was one of YOURS, not one of theirs. Are you starting to fear a backlash against YOUR religion and world view?
Just asking.

I'd like to point up thread were I was one of the first to yell stop and wait before re-enforcing your prejudices over this.
For the right wing so-called Christians I would urge they be judged the same as anyone else. The ones cheering this act and declaring it as justice served are the enemies of free people everywhere. Not to pick on Islam in any way, but I do NOT see entire nations filling with cheering so-called Christians rejoicing at this act the same way we really did see entire nations filling with cheering so-called Muslims rejoicing after 9/11. That difference must not be forgotten, as it is vital. The Westboro Baptists are exactly the equivalent evil, and they are right at home in America, but I am not familiar with any nations were a Westboro Baptist like cult has nearly a majority within the population. "Islamic" jihadists however have multiple places were that can be said to be true.
It's all equally ugly, but I suppose my point is that the Westboro Baptist nuts like this guy are a foe already effectively beaten, with limited ability to fight against us as free people. 'Islamic' nuts though are holding entire populations at ransom and bringing civil war against freedom loving muslim people unfortunate enough to share geography with them. It is still the much bigger fight, and will continue to be a problem until it is tackled as such rather than being dismissed as the 'chosen' lifestyle of the people there.



I'm sad to say I have seen entire nations 'worth' of people rejoicing at the death of Muslims, just not any actual nation. There certainly have been rallies in America that at least in part were to 'celebrate' Muslim deaths. I agree, it's not as pervasive as in Muslim countries, and not accepted by the majority of our population as it seems to be in Muslim countries, but it certainly IS something that happens here (at most Faux supported and teabagger rallies for example). We have a much more diverse and larger population, so there is likely NO cause the entire population will ever get behind.
My point is, as long as a group advocates violence and intolerance against another group, they have some responsibility when one of their group (insane or not) uses their rhetoric to justify violent acts against "X", and should be ridiculed for their hypocrisy when they complain about the same thing from the other side of their fight.
This is not meant to indicate that western culture is the same, or even close to the same as the Muslim culture, it is meant to indicate that when your anti-"X" group becomes "X" in order to fight against "X" you've already lost the fight before you begin. To reiterate, if you become what you despise in order to rail against it, you end up despising yourself in the end.

>> ^newtboy:

One more reminder to all the right wing "christians" that jumped on the "islamic terrorist" bandwagon the second a car blew up, this was one of YOURS, not one of theirs. Are you starting to fear a backlash against YOUR religion and world view?
Just asking.


I'd like to point up thread were I was one of the first to yell stop and wait before re-enforcing your prejudices over this.

For the right wing so-called Christians I would urge they be judged the same as anyone else. The ones cheering this act and declaring it as justice served are the enemies of free people everywhere. Not to pick on Islam in any way, but I do NOT see entire nations filling with cheering so-called Christians rejoicing at this act the same way we really did see entire nations filling with cheering so-called Muslims rejoicing after 9/11. That difference must not be forgotten, as it is vital. The Westboro Baptists are exactly the equivalent evil, and they are right at home in America, but I am not familiar with any nations were a Westboro Baptist like cult has nearly a majority within the population. "Islamic" jihadists however have multiple places were that can be said to be true.

It's all equally ugly, but I suppose my point is that the Westboro Baptist nuts like this guy are a foe already effectively beaten, with limited ability to fight against us as free people. 'Islamic' nuts though are holding entire populations at ransom and bringing civil war against freedom loving muslim people unfortunate enough to share geography with them. It is still the much bigger fight, and will continue to be a problem until it is tackled as such rather than being dismissed as the 'chosen' lifestyle of the people there.

They're pulling a W! You just say "Islamic Terrorism" as many times as you can in the same sentence as Norway and Oslo, and boom! Islamic Terrorists are to blame in the minds of all their viewers.

Hi, I think I broke the sift's rules: http://videosift.com/video/Oslo-Bomber-and-Utoya-Shooter-s-Manifest

I am not sorry.

>> ^Pprt:

DerHasisttot, I fear you've been totally consumed by two particularly devious and masochistic mental afflictions, counterproductive critical theory and cultural Marxism.
I have just read someone who honestly believes that a lowly bird is worth protection but would not lift a finger to defend human culture because "all cultures are equal and none is more worthwhile than another". Correspondingly, it does not matter if one of them disappears or if all of them disappear. Effectively, you believe in everything and nothing at the same time.
You are a destroyer of nations because you do not believe in nations.
My only advice is that you realize that we live in a world where Europeans are the ONLY people who are affected by these social ills. No other culture is masochistic, they are proud of themselves for who they are.. for better or for worse.
I can only hope that, through time and personal experience, you may come to realize that your own culture (and every culture) is worthy of conservation.
That's if it's still around you in old age.


You have not understood how I thoroughly deconstructed your premise. Cultures are inconservable. I never said that all cultures are equal. I said they are enhancing each other. The best things stay, the others fall away.

You are either a troll or an enormous, racist ideological (maybe even Nazi) -asshole whose life would be best spend scrubbing sewers so your brainfarts do not stink up the place. I will not respond to you anymore.

>> ^Pprt:

"Racist" is nothing more than silly name-calling. Its only effect is making the accuser seem unoriginal and intellectually lazy. Congratulations to anyone who uses that word for employing the debating tactics of a five year old.
Before Breivik's name was out there I expressed caution in not blaming anyone for the attacks. Unlike most media sources who immediately suspected Muslim involvement, I waited for more facts to emerge before making assumptions. That is not the action of a "racist" as you would define one.
Further, it is impossible to condone the recent events in Norway, nor would any sensible person defend these assassinations as a reasonable act. My admission is that his reasoning is sound, his concerns legitimate and his motivations worthy of study.
As for DerHasisttot's logical pretzel. I'm sure he is the type of fellow that would mobilize government in defense of an endangered species of duck, but yet finds the mild concept that a civilization wishes to maintain its existence is morally wrong. Shame on him.


It is not name calling if it is a true description. If you want to know the exact moment when libel ceased to be libel if the libelous statement was demonstrably true, look here.

"Racist" is nothing more than silly name-calling. Its only effect is making the accuser seem unoriginal and intellectually lazy. Congratulations to anyone who uses that word for employing the debating tactics of a five year old.

Before Breivik's name was out there I expressed caution in not blaming anyone for the attacks. Unlike most media sources who immediately suspected Muslim involvement, I waited for more facts to emerge before making assumptions. That is not the action of a "racist" as you would define one.

Further, it is impossible to condone the recent events in Norway, nor would any sensible person defend these assassinations as a reasonable act. My admission is that his reasoning is sound, his concerns legitimate and his motivations worthy of study.

As for DerHasisttot's logical pretzel. I'm sure he is the type of fellow that would mobilize government in defense of an endangered species of duck, but yet finds the mild concept that a civilization wishes to maintain its existence is morally wrong. Shame on him.