@Payback

Since the following videos are in the top sifts at the same time as this video, it's curious to see which un-self-reflective people will fall for the idea that professional comedians are literally incapable of thinking of anything funny to say about a huge part of global news and culture. Under normal circumstances, nobody would agree with that idea.

http://videosift.com/video/Pakistani-comedienne-in-Oslo-takes-on-Islam
http://videosift.com/video/The-Good-Muslim-Wife-Joke

Ah, the classic case of correlation versus causation.

In the U.S., between 1974 and 2004, 52.2% of all homicides were committed by those who listed their race as black, despite blacks accounting for 12.6% of the population (according to the 2010 census).

This of course will lead most racists to conclude that black people are inherently violent or cold-blooded, etc. Nevermind the socio-economic status of the majority of black Americans (almost a quarter of them live on wages below the poverty line, much higher rates of unemployment, etc.) which is a much more likely to be a reason for the crime statistics. Nevermind the justice system that has a much higher conviction rate for black offenders (probably also tied to the socio-economic status since if you can't afford a private lawyer you're going to get stuck with an over-worked and underpaid public defender).

It seems to me much more likely that these attacks are the result of immigrants who are coming from countries (Iraq, Somalia, and Pakistan seem to be where most of the rapists have come from) where they were likely already successful predators due to a lack of law enforcement and crumbling social structures. Old habits die hard. They move to Oslo and continue their predatory ways.

But could Islam really be the cause of this? Let's look at another statistic:

In Oslo, there are approximately 163,000 Muslims. Let's be generous and assume that only a quarter of these are adult males (40705) and the rest are women and children. Let's also be generous and assume that for every rape reported in Oslo, 10 rapes go unreported due to fear or shame (86 reported rapes x 10 unreported = 860 rapes). Let's further be completely unrealistic and assume each rape is the result of an individual offender (no repeat offenders or serial rapists). So now we have...

860 rapists / 40705 adult male population = 2.1% of the population

I've been hugely generous with these numbers, but I think you can see that this particular statistic does not really implicate Islam as a cause of the rapes. Wouldn't we expect to see a much higher percentage of the male population rampaging through Oslo if Islam was truly the cause of this behavior?

I'm not implying Islamic attitudes towards women don't contribute to the behavior of those who commit these crimes. But it seems hard to believe Islam is somehow responsible for these crimes any more than Christianity is responsible for pedophile priests (though the Catholic Church is certainly responsible for covering the abuses up).

http://videosift.com/video/Doug-Stanhope-s-Oslo-Burning-The-Bridge-To-Nowhere

A new DVD/CD.

There are no polar bears in Oslo.. sorry. You are more likely to meet a brown bear there*. There are no polar bears in mainland Norway or Scandinavia. Svalbard, however, is a different case.

*also very very unlikely. They are mostly found in the deep forests of Sweden, and rare even there

Update #2 on that article now says, "Oops... turns out he is being charged with rape." Allegedly one of the girls told him to stop mid-act and he didn't.

>> ^dag:

Works for me. Maybe Twitter's playing up. Here's the article that I was linking to.
http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/02/no-wikileaks
s-julian-assange-isnt-accused-of-rape/
>> ^coolhund:
What message? Theres nothing. Did the govs get to you that quick?

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Works for me. Maybe Twitter's playing up. Here's the article that I was linking to.
http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/02/no-wikileakss-julian-assange-isnt-accused-of-rape/

>> ^coolhund:

What message? Theres nothing. Did the govs get to you that quick?

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FTR, Assange hasn't been accused of anything like rape. I think it's important to get this message out: http://twitter.com/#!/dag1/status/10461299813126144

>> ^ambassdor:

Is Wikileaks a big enough inconvenience for someone to have Julian Assange whacked? Tho the rape accusations do sound like they could be conspiracy to shut him up and only just saw that video of the Canadian official 'jokingly' say he should be assasinated. And this might be a crap comparison, but just for devil's advocate sake, if someone was to leak private information about my personal feelings about another for 'freedom's sake', which would result in more conflict as a result, as opposed to not revealing anything, and just having to put up with an animosity, then surely, the latter would be the lesser of two evils? For the main part, I do think it is a good platform for press freedom, but if (perhaps reckless) freedom of information causes the loss of human life, sounds like one step forward, two steps back.

Wow, thank you for that... Appreciate it!
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http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/02/muslim-rape-epidemic-in-sweden-and.html and this is already five years ago!

Excerpt: The article quoted a professor of social anthropology at the University of Oslo (note: her name is Unni Wikan) as saying that "Norwegian women must take their share of responsibility for these rapes" because Muslim men found their manner of dress provocative. The professor's conclusion was not that Muslim men living in the West needed to adjust to Western norms, but the exact opposite: "Norwegian women must realize that we live in a multicultural society and adapt themselves to it."

From a report in 2005: 66% of assault crimes and 80% of sexual crimes in Sweden are committed by foreigners, among which "those from North Africa and Western Asia were overrepresented."

(the über pc article: http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=2683&date=20051214)

Oslo, Sweden

^Nice copy pasta. Well then I raise you with this:

Richard Falk, professor emeritus of international law at Princeton University and U.N. Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the occupied Palestinian territory said that the “ships that were situated in the high seas where freedom of navigation exists, according to the law of the seas” and called for those responsible to "be held criminally accountable for their wrongful acts".[181]

In a legal analysis published by the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, a staff expert on international law explained that countries are not allowed to extend their sovereignty on areas outside of their coastal waters. In a zone extending 24 nautical miles (44 km) from the coast, countries have the right to inspect ships in order to enforce immigration and public health laws and regulations. In international waters, if there is reasonable suspicion of piracy or human trafficking, a country has the right to access foreign ships. If the suspicion remains, it can search the ship. Israeli soldiers have the right to defend themselves. If Israel has used force against the ships without legal justification, the crew members had the right to defend themselves.[text 2]

Robin Churchill, international law professor at the University of Dundee in Scotland, said there was no legal basis for boarding the ships as they were in international waters. [182] Ove Bring, Swedish international law professor, said that Israel had no right to take military action.[183] That was supported by Mark Klamberg at Stockholm University,[184] Hugo Tiberg, maritime law professor[185] and Geir Ulfstein, professor at maritime law at University of Oslo,[186] while Jan Egeland, director of the Norwegian Institute of International Affairs said that only North Korea behaved in international waters in the same manner as Israel.[187]

Canadian scholar Michael Byers notes that the event would only be legal if the Israeli boarding were necessary and proportionate for the country's self defence. Byers believes that "the action does not appear to have been necessary in that the threat was not imminent."[188] Jason Alderwick, a maritime analyst at the International Institute for Strategic Studies of London, was quoted as saying that the Israeli raid did not appear to have been conducted lawfully under the convention.[189] Anthony D'Amato, international law professor at Northwestern University School of Law, argued that the San Remo Manual on International Law Applicable to Armed Conflicts at Sea applies to a situation in which the laws of war between states are in force. He said the laws of war do not apply in the conflict between Israel and Hamas, which isn't even a state. He said the law of the Geneva Conventions would apply.[9] Said Mahmoudi, an international law professor, said that boarding a ship on international waters, kill and capture civilians is not in line with the law.[190]

A group of Israeli lawyers, including Avigdor Feldman, petitioned the Israeli High Court charging that Israel had violated the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea by capturing the boats in international waters. [191]

Turkey's foreign minister Ahmet Davutoğlu called the raid "a grave breach of international law and constituted banditry and piracy—it was “murder” conducted by a State, without justification".[22] Prominent Turkish jurists have characterized Israel's actions as a violation of international law and a "war crime."

Turkey's deputy parliament speaker, Guldal Mumcu, said in a declaration that "[t]his attack was an open violation of United Nations rules and international law," and that "Turkey should seek justice against Israel through national and international legal authorities. The parliament expects the Turkish government to revise the political, military and economic relations with Israel, and to take effective measures."[192]
Dr. Turgut Tarhanlı, dean of the Law department of İstanbul Bilgi University,[193] cited the concept of innocent passage, under which vessels are granted safe passage through territorial waters in a manner which is not "prejudicial to the peace, good order or the security" of the state.[194] He said that the Convention on the Law of the Sea stipulates that a coastal state may consider intervention if a ship is engaged in arms and drug smuggling, the slave trade or terrorist activities. However, the case with the aid boats is totally different. They set sail in accordance with the Customs Act and are known to be carrying humanitarian aid, not weapons or ammunition. According to the Convention on the Law of the Sea, Israel was not entitled to launch a military operation against the boats and activists.[195]

>> ^LarsaruS:

Ummm... Opera is Norwegian... just FYI :-D
Also the video zooms in on Oslo which is Norway's capital...


Thanks! Updated the tags

Ummm... Opera is Norwegian... just FYI :-D
Also the video zooms in on Oslo which is Norway's capital...

This is actually one of the main means of travel between Norway's two largest cities: Oslo and Bergen. I live in Bergen and have family in Oslo, so I get to see this scenerey at least a couple of times a year. The view from the drivers cabin is way better than the side veiw you get from the cars, though.