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Why Do Flat Earth Believers Still Exist?

transmorpher says...

Way too advanced for idiot flat earthers.

All you need to know that is that we have footage of the earth ROTATING on it's axis.

(And anyone can send their own camera high enough to watch the earth rotate)



Also the navy park their ships under the horizon (about 40 miles away from a target) so that there is no line of sight. Since their guns shoot in an arc, you don't need line of sight, so might as well keep the ship invisible.

Vox explains bump stocks

MilkmanDan says...

I think a 10% reduction is pessimistic, 90% like newtboy mentioned is likely optimistic.

One person being killed would have been tragic. A quick search says most recent count is 58 dead, 515 injured. Tragic has been surpassed by some orders of magnitude, and I while see what you're saying, I think it would have been meaningfully "less tragic" if he had only had access to traditional semi-automatic.

He had a bunch of weapons and a bunch of ammo. Reload time was partially mitigated by the number of guns. But finger fatigue like newtboy mentioned would have made it hard to keep firing over a prolonged time (~10 minutes of active shooting time?), and the increased time between shots plus potential for fatigue would have let people make a break for cover or to get out of line of sight.

It may well have still been the deadliest mass shooting even if he only had semi-auto. Banning bump stocks (and other full-auto conversions) won't prevent the next one, but any mitigation at all is better than nothing. And I think it would have been rather more significant than that.


Is access to full-auto or generally equivalent to full-auto the main problem? No. I fully understand your reluctance here, because I agree that GOP legislators and the NRA are likely to hold up opposition to bump stocks as a more significant badge than it deserves to be. "SEE?! I did something about it! Pat me on the back!"

...But, on the other hand, it really is a step in the right direction. And there are no real downsides, aside from that concern about giving those parties a sort of political card to play. The public will just have to make it clear that this, while good, isn't enough by itself.

ChaosEngine said:

@MilkmanDan, let's say he didn't have a bump stock. Do you think it would have meaningfully affected this tragedy?

If he had killed 10% fewer people (while it would obviously have been better for those people and their families), this would still have been the deadliest mass shooting in the US.

Basically, my argument is that plenty of people have managed to go on mass shooting sprees without bump stocks, and banning them won't stop the next mass shooting.

It's kinda like banning texting while drunk driving. Sure, you really shouldn't do it, but it's not the main problem!

Near Miss

bcglorf says...

The moment the yellow can is half clear of the intersection the vehicle that cuts left when unsafe is already visible, aka clear line of sight. Predicting that another driver is likely to veer in for a head on collision is impossible. I've watched a couple times and can't see any turn signals either. What's with everyone getting on the biker here?

ChaosEngine said:

Other lessons possibly don't accelerate into an intersection with a yellow light when you don't have a clear line of sight?

Near Miss

Ultra Spiritual Life - Flat Earth Theory

dannym3141 says...

I was hoping it was a troll-meme, because i've seen a prevalence of people believing this shit lately.

Ask them how a sundial works. It's one of those things that's simple to think about or even draw. Get them to tell you how the sun rises and sets, and then ask about sundials - and why do 2 sundials separated by a significant distance read how they do.

If you make them 1000 ft tall sundials, you can use the horizon line of sight argument on them too.

ForgedReality said:

What's heinously disturbing is that there are a lot of people alive today who actually believe this bullshit. Scary. As. Fuck.

Beached Limo vs. Train

Ashenkase says...

So the freight train is coming around a bend. The drivers line of sight doesn't let him know that there is a car on the tracks until its too late to effectively break. Having people down the tracks waving a red flag would have given him no context as to what was ahead. People do weird stuff around trains, the driver probably would have thought it was just some foamers wanting him to blow the whistle.

This is where good AH-1 Cobras go when they retire...

SFOGuy says...

Yes, that would be brilliant.
However, also true that in terrain that difficult and ridged, I bet there would be all sorts of line of sight issues that get resolved by having an airborne platform.

Going forward, I'd say: Drone.

deathcow said:

how about buying these ground crews guys a simple handheld FLIR camera

Beautiful Aerial Drone Footage - Doesn't Always End Well

RFTC: FAA Seeks to Ban FPV Flying and Limit Model Aviation

newtboy says...

I have the feeling this is more of a worst case scenario or complete exaggeration being used as an enrolment tool for the AMA rather than a plan set in stone. That said, the FAA is required to respond to public input before setting their rulings, and usually actually listens, so comment to them and follow the story is the best advice I've heard. Sending your $60 to AMA does NOT seem like the proper course of action except for the AMA themselves.
The law is already fairly clear about this....
Here's what the statute says about exempting model aircraft from additional regulation.
(https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr658)
"SEC. 336. SPECIAL RULE FOR MODEL AIRCRAFT.
(a) IN GENERAL.—Notwithstanding any other provision of law
relating to the incorporation of unmanned aircraft systems into
Federal Aviation Administration plans and policies, including this
subtitle, the Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration
may not promulgate any rule or regulation regarding a model
aircraft, or an aircraft being developed as a model aircraft, if—
(1) the aircraft is flown strictly for hobby or recreational use;
(2) the aircraft is operated in accordance with a community-
based set of safety guidelines and within the programming
of a nationwide community-based organization;
(3) the aircraft is limited to not more than 55 pounds
unless otherwise certified through a design, construction,
inspection, flight test, and operational safety program adminis-
tered by a community-based organization;
(4) the aircraft is operated in a manner that does not
interfere with and gives way to any manned aircraft; and
(5) when flown within 5 miles of an airport, the operator
of the aircraft provides the airport operator and the airport
air traffic control tower (when an air traffic facility is located
at the airport) with prior notice of the operation (model aircraft
operators flying from a permanent location within 5 miles of
an airport should establish a mutually-agreed upon operating
procedure with the airport operator and the airport air traffic
control tower (when an air traffic facility is located at the
airport)).
(b) STATUTORY CONSTRUCTION.—Nothing in this section shall
be construed to limit the authority of the Administrator to pursue
enforcement action against persons operating model aircraft who
endanger the safety of the national airspace system.
(c) MODEL AIRCRAFT DEFINED.—In this section, the term ‘‘model
aircraft’’ means an unmanned aircraft that is—
(1) capable of sustained flight in the atmosphere;
(2) flown within visual line of sight of the person operating
the aircraft; and
(3) flown for hobby or recreational purposes."

Mieders Alpine Coaster - Frustrated Guy Crashes

CreamK says...

Someone should show this video to the alpine resort staff. They seriously need to up the bucket seats and revise their delay timing between units. This should never be allowed to happen in the first place. The persons were in line of sights as he took off and i'm betting that ain't the first time a pussy goes at snail speed if that's the interval.

That being said, a sincere apology were in order, i'll bet he didn't want to ram her that bad, just to give a good nudge to say: "hey, you are dangerously slow!" He did have a certain douche in him, that's for sure, maybe the reason i disliked him from the start. That screaming part, that's what i would've done but after giving the impression of "there's high speed bullet coming, gtfo" just to stop them braking at every turn.. Then would've paused and let some gap form. You have to remember that you can't pause for long or you are the one slowing down the bunch..

All three are at fault here: the resort, the idiot in the front who's delaying 4 buckets and the douche himself.

Cop Rear-Ends Motorcycle, Blames Rider

Shepppard says...

@Asmo

There's a SHIT load that the guy on the motorcycle did wrong, only one of the things being braking, and we'll cover that in a minute, but let me ask you, did you not happen to notice that the guy on the bike revs up before slamming on his brakes? He gets up to about 15-20 km and then decided to just stop flat. What people who don't ride motorcycles don't seem to realize is, you're literally THOUSANDS of pounds lighter than every other car around you. You can accelerate quicker, and brake quicker.

And when you jack-rabbit and put some distance between the person behind you, they'll likely speed up a bit. And when you decide you want to stop NOW! and they're still slightly accelerating because you decided to start doing so yourself a second ago, they still have a couple tons to stop, too.

Now, when you get trained to ride a motorcycle, you're specifically told: DO NOT ride the center line, or the pavement line when on a two or more lane road. You're supposed to drive defensively, I.e. Guarding your maneuvering area.

The car is trying to merge, he wants to be a nice guy and let him in, okay, cool. But at the end of the day, if the car can't make it in, tough shit for the car. You DO NOT ride the pavement line because it encourages other drivers to A) Cut you off, B) Pull around you, and C) Can lead to you being pushed off the road. The only exception to this rule is riding in a 3+ man formation, where the first and third rider are still (in a right lane) riding the middle line, while the second rider is at the pavement line, thus allowing all three riders a space cushion while maintaining their defensive positions.

And.. just, lastly, lets go ahead and put you in the cops shoes. Don't even imagine you're a cop, just think of this situation:

-Traffic is flowing nicely
-Motorcyclist is in front of you
-Motorcyclist pulls over to the wrong side of the lane
-Now having a clear line of sight, you see a car in the distance that wants to merge
-Car appears to have enough space, but won't turn in
-Motorcyclist revs up and starts to accelerate
-Motorcyclist slams on his brakes.

If that were in my shoes, I'd be screaming too. There's been local stories of people scamming insurance any way they can (deliberately getting hit in 4 way stops by waving at someone else to go first) so a person trying to get rear ended isn't out of the question. The motorcyclist is lucky to be alive, however. He seems to have completely disregarded EVERYTHING he was taught.

Which Are Smarter: Cats or Dogs?

Payback says...

"Big" Cats (Lions, Tigers) hunt by themselves, with a straight line-of-sight chase.

"Big" dogs (Wolves, Hyenas) hunt in packs, using communication and coordination.

Cooperation is a huge sign of intelligence.

poolcleaner said:

Probably as a result of breeding those qualities into dogs. Cats were bred to be guardians in ancient Egypt. Just a matter of how we perceive value in an animal and then what we do to achieve those qualities. Train a wild dog and see the results.

Kid Ballses Up His Over-Skype Interview

alien_concept says...

>> ^njjh201:

OK as a piece of comedy this may or may not be any good (not going to watch all 12 minutes, that's for sure) ... but ... why are people on YouTube thinking this is real? Since the recording starts before the guy picks up the Skype call.
YouTube people... stupider than you think.

Well them I'm stupid too, I assumed he was using another piece of equipment to video himself, as his line of sight is looking down at the screen but the video seems to be coming from higher up. No need to watch all 12 minutes either, you can skip ahead every 30 seconds, watch 10 seconds and still witness carnage

Back Away BMW Bitch

dannym3141 says...

>> ^xxovercastxx:

@0:44, when they first have line of sight to each other, the truck driver has plenty of room to pull over whereas she has none. He should have let her pass then instead of pulling up to her.
But she completely lost her mind. Ok, so the truck driver is a dick... just pull to the left and let him go. What's to be gained by making a confrontation out of it?
In summary, assholes all around and I didn't benefit from seeing this.


I'm really not sure about this; she stops her car in the middle of the road at 0.52.

Let's assume that the truck is approximately the same size as the truck with the driver who also gets out to speak. Where on that street do you see a gap that the truck driver could enter (after 0:44 as you say) that would have made the road clearer than the alternative and much more mechanically simple (AND more carbon neutral, AND more obvious, AND more polite, AND etc.) than where she moved her car to at 4.30?

The only reason there is any argument or problem here is because the woman leaves her car and approaches the truck driver with abuse. If at 0.44 she had coasted her car into the same place it ended up at 4.30, she would have gotten to her destination perhaps 20 seconds slower than if the street were completely clear. The truck driver also slows down even more at the 40 metre gap with just a bin in it. He couldn't make the solution any more obvious to her. He couldn't fit in that gap but she can fit there in the same way as she does at 4.30.

In conclusion, i'd like to suggest that actually this is an example of a stupid idiot not being able to control a car properly. The guy in the truck was, in my opinion, overly generous in the amount of time he gave her to move into a sensible position, and he may or may not be a dick because it is unclear.

I see things like this happen every day on my way to university. People shouldn't be driving if they can't understand the basics and this is very basic. Next thing you know she'll be overtaking someone on a corner because like, you know, whatever, like i've got a salon appointment to get to so just, you know, like, get out of the way!

Negligence is the biggest killer, get her off the fucking road. I certainly don't want to share the roads with her, and i'm saddened (but not surprised; seen too much of this crap) that a minority found in her favour!

Back Away BMW Bitch

xxovercastxx says...

@0:44, when they first have line of sight to each other, the truck driver has plenty of room to pull over whereas she has none. He should have let her pass then instead of pulling up to her.

But she completely lost her mind. Ok, so the truck driver is a dick... just pull to the left and let him go. What's to be gained by making a confrontation out of it?

In summary, assholes all around and I didn't benefit from seeing this.



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