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Joe Rogan on Retiring the Word "Faggot"

rottenseed says...

>> ^Mcboinkens:
>> ^Tokoki:
So, you want to call african-americans "nigger" straight to their face?
>> ^Mcboinkens:
And I'm fine with not using the word faggot as an insult as long as homosexuals are fine with me calling them faggots straight to their face. If you don't want a word to evolve and lose its original meaning that's fine, but then you better be ready to start facing the word in its original meaning.


You're comparing apples and oranges. One word meant a bunch of sticks, the other was originally a racist term. One was converted into a hateful term, one has always been. If you take out the evolved context of the word faggot it no longer holds any harm, hence why you should be able to say it to anyone. The word you listed however, has always had racist roots and therefore is an entirely different kind of word. I see what you're trying to say, though. I'm just pointing out that people are becoming way to sensitive to WORDS. Pretty soon we arn't going to be able to call anyone fat, obese, stupid, short, or tall. Instead it will just be "above average body mass" or some other sensitive term. When does it stop? If someone calls me white trash I really couldn't care less about it. It means the other person is either insensitive, jealous, or I've done something to anger them. In any case, I realize it's just a word and move on.
Basically here is my point: What should we call gay people? Homosexuals, gays, faggots? What makes the word faggot worse than homosexual? Connotation. What happens when we stop using the word gay and faggot? Those connotations get shifted onto the word homosexual. Then what? We will need to come up with another word. There will always be jerks and insensitive fools that will use words to hurt people, it's human nature.
I stand by my point earlier in my last post. If we stop using faggot as an insult, then is goes back to simply meaning homosexual, in which case there should be no problem describing someone who is ACTUALLY a homosexual as a faggot. It seems like you misinterpreted what I said as I would call them faggots to their face to mock them, that wouldn't be the case. It would just be another word to describe their lifestyle.


It's not apples to oranges. The bundle of sticks definition is correct, however, the way homosexuals got the name is because they used to use gays as kindling for fire. That's right...they used to burn gay people and treat them as nothing other than fire wood

Joe Rogan on Retiring the Word "Faggot"

Joe Rogan on Retiring the Word "Faggot"

Matthu says...

>> ^Tokoki:

So, you want to call african-americans "nigger" straight to their face?
>> ^Mcboinkens:

And I'm fine with not using the word faggot as an insult as long as homosexuals are fine with me calling them faggots straight to their face. If you don't want a word to evolve and lose its original meaning that's fine, but then you better be ready to start facing the word in its original meaning.



If they're ignorant(and smaller than me) then yes. That's one word that should go back to it's original meaning.

Although blacks have a better case for asking for care in using the word. Homosexuals might have been, and still are, discriminated against, but they weren't fucking enslaved.

Joe Rogan on Retiring the Word "Faggot"

Yogi says...

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

Eminem is an idiot. >> ^Matthu:
Ahhh bullshit! Joe Rogan's a fucking faggot.
I really like the way Eminem drew the line in the movie 8 mile. He's battling and he points to the gay guy and says, "He's gay," then points to the douchebag and says, "You're a faggot."
People need to get way over themselves and let these words evolve, since, hate to break it to you, they ain't going away.



What makes you say that? He's a great entertainer and from his music he obviously gets satire and irony as well as one of the best rappers there has been in years. There was a real downfall of good rap music till he came out with some ridiculous stuff that was funny and fun. Sure he was as homophobic at times as an ignorant high schooler but he performed with the King of the Queens.

Joe Rogan on Retiring the Word "Faggot"

Tokoki says...

So, you want to call african-americans "nigger" straight to their face?

>> ^Mcboinkens:


And I'm fine with not using the word faggot as an insult as long as homosexuals are fine with me calling them faggots straight to their face. If you don't want a word to evolve and lose its original meaning that's fine, but then you better be ready to start facing the word in its original meaning.

Joe Rogan on Retiring the Word "Faggot"

Joe Rogan on Retiring the Word "Faggot"

Matthu says...

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

Eminem is an idiot. >> ^Matthu:
Ahhh bullshit! Joe Rogan's a fucking faggot.
I really like the way Eminem drew the line in the movie 8 mile. He's battling and he points to the gay guy and says, "He's gay," then points to the douchebag and says, "You're a faggot."
People need to get way over themselves and let these words evolve, since, hate to break it to you, they ain't going away.



No, he's not.

Joe Rogan on Retiring the Word "Faggot"

dystopianfuturetoday says...

Eminem is an idiot. >> ^Matthu:

Ahhh bullshit! Joe Rogan's a fucking faggot.
I really like the way Eminem drew the line in the movie 8 mile. He's battling and he points to the gay guy and says, "He's gay," then points to the douchebag and says, "You're a faggot."
People need to get way over themselves and let these words evolve, since, hate to break it to you, they ain't going away.

Joe Rogan on Retiring the Word "Faggot"

Skeeve says...

I don't care for Joe Rogan, but I completely agree that people need to stop using "gay" or "faggot" as their go-to insult.

I'm the first person to defend free speech and tell people that they don't have to right to not be offended, but there is just no point in using those words. Firstly, it can be very hurtful to homosexuals, and freedom of speech doesn't mean we should just insult people for no reason. Secondly, being gay isn't a bad thing so why should calling someone gay/faggot be an insult? Unless one is very homophobic, a self-hating homosexual, or incredibly insecure about their sexuality, being called that should bother one as much as being called "four-eyes" if one doesn't have glasses.

Joe Rogan on Retiring the Word "Faggot"

Yogi says...

I swear at first glance with his UFC color commentary career and his appearance he looks like such a douchbag. The more I listen to Joe Rogan though the more I think that we'd be cool.

Joe Rogan on Retiring the Word "Faggot"

Matthu says...

Ahhh bullshit! Joe Rogan's a fucking faggot.

I really like the way Eminem drew the line in the movie 8 mile. He's battling and he points to the gay guy and says, "He's gay," then points to the douchebag and says, "You're a faggot."

People need to get way over themselves and let these words evolve, since, hate to break it to you, they ain't going away.

Joe Rogan: The American War Machine

Duncan says...

>> ^Taint:
Also, and probably more importantly, if building seven can only be explained by controlled demolition then where are all the engineers on this topic? Why does it only seem to be people without a professional background in such things the ones saying it couldn't have happened when the boilers exploded or whatever the official claim states.

Here you go

http://videosift.com/video/9-11-Blueprint-for-Truth-Compelling-Presentation

Joe Rogan: The American War Machine

dystopianfuturetoday (Member Profile)

Joe Rogan: The American War Machine

Taint says...

Wow, I admit that I also didn't expect this with the name "Joe Rogan" on the title.

But that was a pretty concise representation of the truly salient, and inherent problems with US Foreign policy, and with some good editing and clips to boot.

I can't say I'm in love with the building seven bit at the end though.

Operation Northwoods clearly shows it's not beyond question for nefarious plans against our own citizens to reach the highest offices of the Pentagon and even meet with approval.

But I just find it nearly impossible to believe that the same minds who could conceive and carry out a plan like this would not realize that they could've gotten away with whatever they want for far, far less than anything approaching the scale of nearly destroying downtown Manhattan.

I mean the Gulf of Tonkin Incident was some destroyer out somewhere in a sea most Americans couldn't find on a map if their lives depended on it. And that was enough of an excuse to invade south east asia!

Keep in mind that the Gulf of Tonkin Bullshit story was drafted AFTER operation Northwoods was rejected by Kennedy. They already knew that a justification to gear up the military required nearly nothing. So why would they stage this elaborate hoax to accomplish what they could do anyway? Hell, even the first Gulf War showed the American appetite for war was a lot different then what they dealt with in the late 60's and 70's.

Americans these days only need a short empty speech with zero content, a flag waving fireworks extravaganza, a country music song or two and we'd be willing to invade fucking Canada.

It wasn't needed.

Also, and probably more importantly, if building seven can only be explained by controlled demolition then where are all the engineers on this topic? Why does it only seem to be people without a professional background in such things the ones saying it couldn't have happened when the boilers exploded or whatever the official claim states.

And if destroying some sort of unique treasure trove of financial documents was the goal then it seems an awfully elaborate way to torch a building, but what do I know I guess.

I'm just typing too much.



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