Moose over, you a--hole!

Oops this turned into a semi rant. But I am legitimately open to discussion here, and am curious to get your thoughts on a few points Bob. That is, IF you're willing to actually think about them beyond the level of repeating talking points.

I find it interesting how divergent the two overall "sides" are in this country, in terms of where they focus. None of the issues brought up in this video are really on the radar of most progressives, beyond being aware some on the right are talking about them. And I'm guessing a lot of the concerns progressives discuss rarely come up in your chosen media landscape. A lot of the issues in the video are largely off of my radar, and I have to wonder how you feel they should be addressed - like, actual proposed solutions rather than just complaining about / worrying about them.

We only dedicate one day to remember our fallen soldiers

How many should there be? Arguably we have more than one already: there's Memorial Day and Veterans Day, and it seems that Sept 11th is often used for the purpose as well.

I'd argue we should spend more time acknowledging and understanding the principals behind WHY our soldiers died in the various conflicts which caused them to fall in the first place. Let's make sure our citizenry appreciates what we collectively rejected in the Revolutionary war. Why it was important that we kept the country together rather than allowing the south to split off in the mid-1800s. Why we chose to honor our diplomatic agreements and support our allies in WW1. Why we fought against the countries and governments we did in WW2. What our goals were in Korea and Vietnam, and what lessons we learned from those conflicts and from the Cold War in general. Commemorating and remembering those we've lost absolutely matters, but if we're ONLY doing that while forgetting why they fought OR ignoring what we learned then we're doing them an equal or greater disservice. Remember that America was built on the idea of forming "a more perfect union" - not a perfect one, a MORE perfect one - a work in progress. We're striving towards an ideal, not assuming we're already there. Learning from our past successes, failures, and our struggles around both outcomes is vital. If our self-analysis is no deeper than hero worship we'll never make real progress towards that theoretical perfect union.

The only mask that's gonna save us is duct tape on their mouths

Yeah, sound medical advice and evidence-based science is terrifying. Better to shut up those whose words we dislike, because we're reactionary authoritarian babymen. I truly do not understand being more afraid of reasonable safety measures than of a virus which has been shown to cause serious harm in the short and long terms. The only reason this "masks = liberal / maskless = conservative" crap came about is because politics has devolved to the level of team sports in the US, and one party has chosen "the opposite of whatever our political opponents say" as their entire governing philosophy. (And yes, ONE party - research and understand the GOP's 2020 platform if you want to argue the point.) This video even seems to reach a reasonable conclusion at the end, while coming up just short of that final logical leap to "maybe I should question what the public faces of MY side have been claiming in this Us vs Them madness." Seriously - keep going friend, you're almost there! George Washington was 100% right in wanting to avoid political parties being a force in the US, and it makes me immensely sad that his fears came true.

Big oil runs the world / the only wars to get fought are with the countries who have natural resources they want

Solid point here, no sarcasm. The US military has long been a tool of our profit-driven form of "free market" imperialism. A really great way to combat this, specifically with an eye to ending Big Oil's goddamn death grip on our foreign policy goals, would be an aggressive implementation of renewable energy projects. Remember the space race? America can be an absolute beast at clever engineering solutions when we dedicate ourselves to it. Fuck the petrostates, we have the available land and resources to absolutely kick ass in the realms of solar and wind power, and be leaders in the the post-hydrocarbon reality. We can certainly agree on that, right Bob? Left / Right nonsense fully aside, I think any reasonable American can agree on at least two points: let's stop sending heaps of cash to buy oil off of the Saudis (etc), and Fuck Cancer.

But if a white man acts too white he's white trash / he's a racist he's a bigot he's a monster

What the fuck is this horseshit? What does "acting too white" even fucking look like? Watching NASCAR on a sailboat while listening to polka? Typically when I see racism from white people it's in the form of denying that brown-hued people deal with any additional difficulties in life due to their skin tone, or denying that there have been structural obstacles for them through history, or lamenting that their white children are being burdened with a broader lens on culture or with (gasp! shock!) an accurate accounting of actual US history, including the ugly bits that we shouldn't be proud of (but MUST learn from). I'm progressive / lefty as fuck and there is no aspect of "white culture" or "acting white" which upsets me in the slightest. UNLESS one counts "denying racism exists / has ever existed" as a fundamental value of being white. Which... why would anyone want to claim that nonsense? If you want to listen to classic country music in a rusty pickup truck while driving to an evangelical church, then discuss hockey over Buds after 18 holes with the rest of your tractor pull team, then absolutely go nuts my fellow caucusoid! Just recognize and understand that your life experiences may not be the same as those of others. Further, if we care about trying to avoid unnecessary, avoidable unfairness in life (recognizing that life will never truly be fair, for anyone), then it might be reasonable for some governmental / legal / structural recognition in furtherance of that notion. There is absolutely room for legitimate policy disagreement here without being accused of racism. It's denial of others' reality which tends to garner the label of racist (sexist etc) - steer clear of denying the lived experiences of other people, allow for the possibility they may have encountered difficulties you haven't / won't, and we've room for further discussion.

Edit / final point: I voted the video back up to 0 from the -1 where I found it. Because while I disagree with a lot of the positions taken by the performer, they may have reached them through no fault of their own and with no true malice. Misinformation / disinformation is a devious shit of a motherfucker, and the rot it causes can run deep. It is painful to abandon deeply-held beliefs, on a fundamental level. If nothing else, the video gives us room to discuss some specific viewpoints held by people who think of themselves as good, but which can lead to harm.

I'm all about the zero cost donate my body to science method, and sure if there was a zero/minimal cost plot of land someone wanted to dig a hole in and toss my body in, i'm good with that.
1) Minimal cost
2) Greatest benefit to society and or the planet.
And yes of course the dumpster/landfill thing was just a goof comment.

This works well for me https://meded.ucsf.edu/willed-body-program

Imbecilic ignorant MAGOTS, exactly what you are….actually an insult to maggots. Put your big girl panties on, snowflake. Shouldn’t dish out what you can’t take.

Yes, eliminating the system where, no matter how dangerous or likely to kidnap again or what kind of flight risk, a person can be released if they have cash and stays in jail if they don’t no matter how minor the chance of recidivism or flight, and changing to a system where risk assessments are done and those likely to reoffend are kept while those deemed not dangerous get out without paying exorbitant fees is INTELLIGENT and FAIR. No surprise you’re against it. Also no surprise you completely dishonestly intentionally misrepresent the law.

Clearly Republicans don’t give a shit about reality, you abandoned it in favor of this type of ignorant racist nonsense. Again, you claimed 98% of all crime is black on black crime….because you’re a racist liar who spouts racist lies constantly.

Republicans, frauds who cheat, break the laws, attack democracy itself, steal nuclear secrets and keep them in the magazine rack in the public bathroom, run shit hole states, have higher crime rates, spread anti American values, are horrific sex offenders and child sex traffickers, and are totally fine with 1 million dead Americans, actually said grandma and grandpa would gladly die if it meant they got back to work a few weeks earlier…the party of Death, Debauchery, unDemocratic Despotism, Demonizing, Douchebags, and Dummies.

Edit: to address your inappropriate and dishonest rewrite of my comment-

Joe is pulling real Republicans to the Democrats because they don’t agree with MAGA unDemocratic insanity and are tired of being called RINOS by zealous unDemocratic people who’ve been “Republicans” for 6 years now.…uniting, while MAGA was designed to be divisive from the start, based on an unspoken an insult that Obama had destroyed America and it needed to be made great again….utter nonsense.

Again, look at facts, many deaths at BLM rallies were Trumpsters who committed crimes they tried to pin on BLM. They were prosecuted, there was no evidence BLM committed crimes/murders so no prosecutions. D’oh! Definitely deaths from Jan 6, and a $500000000 price tag from just that one event of many, 100% of which was caused by Trumpsters.

-3.5% gdp…NEGATIVE! Worst unemployment numbers in living history. His judges had often never tried a case, his Supreme Court justice had never heard one. His court packed with unqualified activist “judges” removed reproductive rights from 1/2 the population, which will cost you this election. Every single fraud scheme found, EVERY SINGLE ONE was for Trump’s benefit. With hundreds of millions wasted, not a single real fraud scheme found from Democrats, just Jewish/Italian space lasers changing votes with the help of long dead zombie socialist dictators. 😂 derp. You are so insanely delusional, facts just don’t matter one bit to you.

Trump told people it’s just a cold, don’t take precautions, to not take vaccines, don’t wear masks, don’t social distance, go to work even if you’re sick, inject bleach, take horse dewormer, let grandma die. His fast tracking vaccines actually had nothing to do with the first vaccines available…and his distribution plan was non existent. 9/10 deaths are on his hands…easily preventable by decent leadership.

Caught red handed mishandling highest level top secret stolen documents. About as treasonous as it gets. His lawyers experience, house council for a parking lot. No longer has the DOJ as his personal legal team and shield. He’s fucked. Not every judge is going to destroy their careers for him like his one cherry picked judge has (not the first time he tried hard to have her hear his cases, btw…see his frivolous just dismissed case against Clinton and the scathing teeming the judge gave his team.).

Sure, he likely had hundreds of legally obtained declassified documents, the issue is he also had hundreds of illegally obtained still top level not declassified documents he kept unsecured and lied about having them, likely actively hid them from investigators with warrants. Every part of that is a major felony thanks to Trump strengthening espionage laws trying (and failing) to impugn Clinton.

MAGOTS now. That's not nice. This is your improvements-



Utter failures on all fronts,

Democrats are clearly anti America- Shit hole cites, Crime, Anti family values, Ok with murdering ---

Clearly Democrats dont give a shit about black on black crime. Illegals are just the replacement team of the dead blacks.

Death Destruction, Debauchery is the Democrat party platform

Hunter, Joe and Hillary sold out American people for personal gain.
Trump is just at butt hole who get things done for Americans, Not sold out

Gonna help you get through this...

Bongo isn't worth the spit. Sharing nothing as he has no grasp of history. I do...but am fairly well-read...and am open to learning the good/bad/ugly of American history. Check out the '60s and the LBJ administration. Find a book by a real historian. Answers should come by seeing it for yourself. Or, magically, given the chance to think about it objectively.

will admit was against Uncle Thomas from the beginning. anyone w/sense knew a black man was going to be appointed but who he was replacing was almost too much to bear (like the scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark - a jewel for a bag of dirt). never appeared to me to be overqualified or a cognitive powerhouse. believed he'd be what he is. seat filler.

so was biased in that regard. knew how to judge the judge.

in a wider view - we are all biased in some regard. hard not to be. science has shown even our brains give us bad info. racism exists everywhere - no one group is immune. 'tho some use it as a tool to get other tools to act like fools (ex: Jan 6). i.e. don't use bias to prove bias. like trying to wash in dirty water.

Can't help w/the other vids 'cause they smell of BS. Open-minded doesn't mean Open Holed. Don't have to be an outhouse. Don't want to step in it - why roll in it?

I found it odd that, while the table has 8 holes, he gave it 3 legs. It doesn’t look right to me like that.
Even a 2x speed, a bit long, but quite detailed to make up for that.

Wow. I am seriously impressed. How the fuck did he do that?

Some parts are guessable. The long scroll of Instagram actors and actresses may have only been like Jessica Biel (though the one right before Jessica Biel was... the Black Hole?).

But wow.

You absolutely deviate from that.
You never see wrong from Orange people, and rarely from white, but see nothing but wrong from darker skinned people.

You just see white and black and think it’s the same thing as right and wrong.

I don’t judge people by anything but actions….that leaves most people on my shit list, melanin levels have no bearing on that.
Outfit?

Yes, it is hypocritical because, yes, you did back Bundy at the time and were outraged he was shot, even though he took over a park armed, threatened rangers and police, shot his gun, and fled from police before being shot still armed. Hard to handle that with the courts when he’s on the highway shooting.
You supporting him and were angry, saying those cops didn’t need to shoot him, but are cheering on cops shooting an unarmed man running away no longer threatening anyone… 60 times. The difference? One was extremely more dangerous, violent, armed, and white. You only see the other one as the problem. That’s hypocritical.
I see 60 shots as the problem, and don’t believe the police version that he even fired his gun without proof.

Government overreach? Are you talking about Bundy’s other anti government armed action when he stole grazing from public lands and held off law enforcement with an armed violent militia, which you supported? Cheering him on for refusing to pay for using public lands for private profits and using deadly force against law enforcement? I’m talking about when he violently took over a park for months with more armed violent militia….which you also supported.

My life is pretty good. I have empathy for those less fortunate. I know you can’t understand thinking about someone else’s situation, but it used to be considered normal…real conservatives know that.

Lol…I’m not on any other social media at all, and I rarely get my news here. Sucker. Nice try, but I look for actual sources, not nut jobs saying what I want to hear, like Trump who got the election fraud fraud from an anonymous Twitter account.
It’s pretty telling that you think the way to “truth and understanding “ is remove all sources of information. What exactly do your eyes see with your head in that dark hole? Mine are wide open in the sunshine, sunshine. I see not only the “truth”, but also the various attempts at lies, and being (and keeping myself) fairly well educated I can tell the difference, a trait I’m afraid you sorely lack, friend. Thanks so much for the offer, but it’s like a deaf and blind man offering to lead someone with glasses across the freeway.

On the contrary, we’ve been here for you for over a decade, calmly explaining reality as you scream nonsense and fear monger. We will be here tomorrow. Assuage your fear of abandonment and maybe you can begin to think rationally.

HA!

this img wasn't generated by a computer. altered [slightly], yes, but filters ≠ CGI. blurring an img, using a blue filter, or cropping an image does not make it "CGI". you can argue the semantics of if it being "generated" by a computer, but arguing it is means all digital photos, images, hell even text of any kind are "CGI". "CGI" is already a stupid, near meaningless term and pushing the definition to "any image that appears or had appeared on a computer in any way" makes it even less useful. [generally VFX/visual effects is the umbrella term people are looking for. CG is the term if they're referring to rendered assets. this is neither. this poor use of language is a huge pet peeve for me.]

imma ignore the "art" argument because that is regularly a black hole of silly and i don't feel the need to engage that but those painted potatoes more effort than this.

So that's how pot holes are born!

As Jimmy Kimmel once said (paraphrasing), "The difference between a Rush Limbaugh fan and a Bill Maher fan is, fans of Bill KNOW he is an a**hole!" * And Bill talking about manhood is like Ted Cruz advising someone on how to make friends.

The Ball Count:
Those numbers are stark. Have seen similar numbers. CDC birthrates suggest bleakness. But suggest it isn't lack of manliness but the whole American lifestyle. Long work hours w/low compensation; having little say in how the government works; medical insecurity - - stress, stress, stress - - w/o many signs of hope. (lost a bundle on the Mitch McConnell security blankets)

a lot of issues brought up in his monologue but has very few clues to the reasons.

'Tho his answer to INCELS has already been better stated...
(condensed version starts @ 5:21)

this is definitely a solution in search of a problem (that doesn't exist)
But it's cute. If they released a brightly colored version, there might be a market for it (in Asian cities).
I can't tell if it had foot pegs, or if the girl was just holding her legs up...
Might also be difficult to drive in high cross-winds (common on bridges), so would be good to see a "donut hole" in the middle.

Bob, do you need an adult to show you how urinals work? If you put your dick in them, you are using them wrong….and you better get checked out.

Leave it to you to not know how to use a urinal….something normal two year olds pick up by themselves.

Or have you been peeing in the glory hole?

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