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History Lesson for the History Channel

History Lesson for the History Channel

Grimm says...

I know it's just kind of accepted that these "reality" shows setup the situations so there is something interesting to watch. But I think Pawn Stars is accused of going so far as to hire actors to pose as customers to bring in interesting things that aren't even theirs.>> ^zor:

Totally agree. Except for Pawn Stars, which is kind of awesome.

History Lesson for the History Channel

jmd says...

I have ALWAYS thought of the history channel as a place that shows educational shows, not all those dealing with history. History channel does very well with its programming aside from things like those swamp people... wtf is that about? Even ice truckers are a stretch.

Pawn stars and restoration are actually history related btw, the majority of items discussed and examined are old.

History Lesson for the History Channel

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History Lesson for the History Channel

Crosswords says...

I've seen a lot more people and media mocking the History Channel. I guess they finally reached the tipping point for the amount of non-history related bullshit they can air before the well deserved mockery can begin.

History Lesson for the History Channel

Insane landing approach at St. Barths airport

All the very best fails of 2011!

Gallowflak says...

This collective is for movies,music,documentaries,angry rants, and any controversial sifts that would qualify as 'historical documents.' If you believe that any posting is a historical document or provides a competing view contrary to 'accepted' history, then please feel free to post it in this collective.

I DO NOT want this to be a collective only of staid government films, videos of Presidents and the powerful giving speeches, or safe-for-toddlers History Channel stuff.

What is historically momentous may be subjective. However, personal MySpace video diary 'histories' are discouraged.

History Channel's 1997 North Hollywood Shootout Documentary

Incredible First Person IED Blast Video

Incredible First Person IED Blast Video

hpqp says...

This is pretty *dark, not to mention the *fear that soldier must've felt. Upvote for the non-snuff glimpse into the horrors of war, and here's hoping this kind of footage may one day be confined to the * history channel.

Evil Men of History

Lawdeedaw says...

@DerHasisttot too

The book is repetitious (Annoying filler) and also speculates every now and again--however, that speculation is clearly an educated guess. Take Caligula's death. Everyone knows he was assassinated. However, the author speculates that he had himself killed.

First, Caligula thought himself a god, so death wasn't really bad--in fact it was the next step since he was pretty much at the top. Hard to do more than become a god. So, his list was done, and it was all downhill.

Second, he had a wicked going away party. A boat decked out with gold floorboards, a week long orgy, then the final day. That day he got in front of everyone in the arena, had his favorite gladiator bugger his ass and then had that irreplaceable stud executed during climax.

Third, he had placed an incompetent man to replace him--of course it was speculated that the man just played the retard so he would survive. For Caligula it was hard to look bad when you had a stuttering fool replacing you.

This timeline was very convincing to the author so he noted what he thought. But he noted it may not have been the case because, as we have noted, the past was tainted by people who hated those emperors and by time itself. In fact, the author notes their tainted testimony multiple times. What more can the author do besides that?

Of course people don't care about those notes, do they?

Oh, and watching the History Channel version--there is not much of a difference... In fact, I think he cheated and took material from that rendition.

>> ^alien_concept:

>> ^DerHasisttot:
Hehe. Reminds me of a lecture I once attended, roughly translated: "Never trust a book about Nero: Ancient propaganda."
Edit: Not even Tacitus is a credible source, he used hearsay, had an own agenda, emphasised and left out facts.

@ lawdeedaw: I looked up the book on amazon, and I tend to trust the bad reviews there because they are the least likely to be written by a publicist or the author; according to the bad review, the book is not accurate. Of course this mustn't be true.

I guess most ancient history can never be truly accurate. Historians surely would gather every source they could and puzzle it together. I wonder what is accurate and how that guy on amazon knows for a fact, haha

Fuck You, George Lucas!

JiggaJonson says...

I remember watching some History Channel thing on the history of Coco-Cola. When they got to the part about the "new improved" Coke 2 recipe and how sales dove as a result, the CEO was explaining that a woman called in and her simple complaint was: "Why... are you taking away my Coco-Cola?" and after some explanation he asked "Well when's the last time you had a coke?" Her reply? "40 years."

He went on to explain that it was at that moment he understood what they were doing wrong. Their brand and that same formula had been a part of people's lives for so long that to change it was to take away those happy moments with their product.

So George, why are you taking away my Star Wars? The one I sat around and watched when I was five, the one my mom recorded off of Cinemax with our VCR is being destroyed because you're being a revisionist asshole.



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