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newtboy (Member Profile)

enoch says...

thanks man.
that rabbit hole goes much further.with the mention of dee and kelly who are responsible for the enochian (or angelic) alphabet,and also enochian magicks.which leads to crowley and the thoth tarot deck.

there can be some correlation between lovecrafts "old ones" and angels.we are not talking the cherub,fairy godmother type angels of childrens stories,but angels who are messengers of god,where gabriel is mentioned as being the size of a solar system an to gaze upon his actual countenance would render the observer mad.

none of that warm and fuzzy from fairy tales but horrors.

i loved studying those esoteric books but they always creeped me out,probably why i love lovecraft.

newtboy said:

That is great. I so want one.
*quality weirdness

Rose McIver's Sick Magic Trick Pisses Off Jimmy Kimmel

robbersdog49 says...

That is one method, but it is possible to do it with a planted card rather than a full deck.

This is my little brother's trick that he tends to do if someone finds out he's a magician and asks the inevitable 'show us a trick then!'

When he did it to me it was at our parents house. He came into the room, put his bag (a back pack) in the middle of the floor and sat down on the sofa. He then turned to me and did the imaginary pack spiel, just like Rose does in the video. I choose a card and announce it to the room.

He then tells me to go to his bag and look through it for his wallet. I find the wallet and take it out of the bag. It's not a big bag and there's only one wallet. He then tells me to open it and look through the card slots until I find a playing card. I do so, there's only one card. Predictably it's the card I've chosen.

There's no trick deck and I'm pretty sure it's not a trick wallet. He didn't handle the bag or the wallet after he put the bag down in the middle of the floor and sat down.

He won't tell me how it's done, but I've seen him do it numerous times to numerous people. It's always the same method although if he's out in public he might just keep his bag on his shoulder rather than put it on the floor and he'll handle his wallet and show the card, but in a way so that everyone can see what he's doing. I've asked him about that and the handling isn't necessary for the trick. the method is the same whether he's handling the bag/wallet or not.

He's a magician who designs tricks for other magicians. He's worked as a technical advisor for magic TV shows, designing props and methods. He specialises in mentalism. He doesn't talk that much about how the tricks are done. He'll help me out if I'm guessing along the right lines but I don't push for answers too much. I've done a little magic myself when younger, but nothing on his level.

The trick deck is just one way of doing this effect, but it's not the only way.

Fusionaut said:

I actually have a deck of cards that is prepared so that you can do this trick. To prep the deck you sand the back of every card so that there is a bit of a rough surface. When the backs of two cards are placed against each other they will stick together if enough pressure is applied but will slide apart if you ease off.

Cards are paired together so that they add up to fifteen (back to back) and suits are paired together as well (clubs with diamonds and hearts with spades). For instance you would pair the 2 of Diamonds with the King of Clubs, the 3 of Hearts with the Queen of Spades, the 4 of Spades with the Jack of Hearts, the 5 of Clubs with the 10 of Diamonds et cetera... Aces are paired with each other.

When you set up the deck you set it up so that all of the clubs and hearts are on one side and if you flip the deck over you will see all of the diamonds and spades. A spare joker is used to mark which sides has the spades and diamonds and must be face down so it's back is seen when you pull the deck out. If the victim call out a diamond or spade you flip the deck over and find the corresponding card and the deck will look normal because of the joker's backside. If the victim calls out hearst or clubs you pull out the deck and remove the joker saying "oh, ho ho. How'd this get here?" and then find the corresponding card.

Just make sure that you sit down to do the trick so that people don't see that back of your deck...


Is my explanation okay? It's kind of a weird trick...

Edit: okay I got it kind of wrong but this video explains it waaaay better:

https://youtu.be/yUo32TSZES4?t=6s

Rose McIver's Sick Magic Trick Pisses Off Jimmy Kimmel

lucky760 says...

That's right! And you have to be careful about not letting the viewers see the underside of your deck.

And upon re-watching this video I see that at the very end a low camera angle reveals that face-showing cards are visible underneath while the same are visible from above.

Busted!

MilkmanDan said:

that precludes the ability to allow the viewer to examine the cards before or after the trick, right?

Rose McIver's Sick Magic Trick Pisses Off Jimmy Kimmel

lucky760 says...

One word: pshaw.

No, silly. The basis of most all magic tricks hinges entirely on doing very complicated things or using very complicated special props.

Using Occam's Razor the selected answer would be: Rose McIver is really doing magic. That's simpler than "Jimmy Kimmel is a horny old man and he wants to beg this C-list TV show actress to do him the favor of being on his show at some future point because he has to bribe low-level actors to do that (as if that's how Hollywood works), so he got prepped on what card to select then rehearsed being surprised when she selected his card" and that's way simpler than "she has a trick deck that's laid out in a special way and requires you to memorize suits and numbers and pulling apart cards without giving it away."

Nonsense.

Payback said:

Two Words: Occam's Razor



Probably had to go along with it to get her to agree to read Mean Tweets at some point in the future.

Rose McIver's Sick Magic Trick Pisses Off Jimmy Kimmel

Fusionaut says...

I actually have a deck of cards that is prepared so that you can do this trick. To prep the deck you sand the back of every card so that there is a bit of a rough surface. When the backs of two cards are placed against each other they will stick together if enough pressure is applied but will slide apart if you ease off.

Cards are paired together so that they add up to fifteen (back to back) and suits are paired together as well (clubs with diamonds and hearts with spades). For instance you would pair the 2 of Diamonds with the King of Clubs, the 3 of Hearts with the Queen of Spades, the 4 of Spades with the Jack of Hearts, the 5 of Clubs with the 10 of Diamonds et cetera... Aces are paired with each other.

When you set up the deck you set it up so that all of the clubs and hearts are on one side and if you flip the deck over you will see all of the diamonds and spades. A spare joker is used to mark which sides has the spades and diamonds and must be face down so it's back is seen when you pull the deck out. If the victim call out a diamond or spade you flip the deck over and find the corresponding card and the deck will look normal because of the joker's backside. If the victim calls out hearst or clubs you pull out the deck and remove the joker saying "oh, ho ho. How'd this get here?" and then find the corresponding card.

Just make sure that you sit down to do the trick so that people don't see that back of your deck...


Is my explanation okay? It's kind of a weird trick...

Edit: okay I got it kind of wrong but this video explains it waaaay better:

https://youtu.be/yUo32TSZES4?t=6s

Rose McIver's Sick Magic Trick Pisses Off Jimmy Kimmel

newtboy says...

I often think 'If you're going to do 'magic' on TV, there needs to be at least one camera on the magician's hands at all times with no cuts'.
If they can reach off camera and then suddenly 'magic', I'll assume they had it set up just out of sight, and everyone on camera is just in on it pretending to not see the wires/mirror/second deck of cards set up in the chair/etc. That's how nearly every 'magic' TV show works, and it's tiring. Slight of hand magic is nothing if you don't see the hands the whole time....IMO.

Rose McIver's Sick Magic Trick Pisses Off Jimmy Kimmel

Babymech says...

It's possible that they faked it, but it can actually be done without fakery, though it's not easy. First of all, before coming to the show, she gets a deck of cards that's specially made for magic tricks, though of course they can also be used for playing cards. Then, before the show, in the dressing room, she puts on a black dress and somebody cuts a hole in it, right over the stomach. And that's it, that's how they made it look like there's a hole in her dress, though it might also be green-screened.

Rose McIver's Sick Magic Trick Pisses Off Jimmy Kimmel

iaui says...

Perhaps she has another deck of cards ready to be selected from, quickly chooses the 4 of clubs (somehow), and then pushes that card into the visible deck through a hidden hole or as she's extracting them from the package?

After writing all that I went back and can't see anywhere she would have been able to pull another card from. She is holding the deck awfully tightly with what looks like a very specific grip, but not being a magic-doer I wouldn't be able to analyze what that means.

Cameraman on a Segway takes out Usain Bolt

ChaosEngine says...

A) it's his job to use the camera on the segway. It's not like he's just being lazy.

B) at 5 seconds, he hits the rail on the right. I don't think anyone could have recovered from that.

Basically, it was an accident. Sometimes unforeseen things happen. It's certainly unfortunate, but I don't think you could call it "careless".

Besides, even if you were pretty pissed, you do realise that "decking" someone is assault, right? Being involved in an accident isn't a legal defence for assaulting someone. If Bolt had punched him, he'd most likely be facing charges and 100% facing a lawsuit.

Fairbs said:

'Deck' may be over the top. Putting myself in his shoes, at the time, it may have seemed intentional. He just got up and kept going which seemed odd. I'm sure I would have asked the dude what had happened. In retrospect, after seeing the whole video, I'd be pretty pissed that this idiot is tooling along on his segway apparently not competent to operate it (and couldn't he have just walked along with the camera?). It's about as careless as texting while driving. I'm not sure if Usain Bolt is still winning races, but the legs this guy ran into are what puts food on his plate. So yes, I'd be pretty pissed.

Cameraman on a Segway takes out Usain Bolt

Fairbs says...

'Deck' may be over the top. Putting myself in his shoes, at the time, it may have seemed intentional. He just got up and kept going which seemed odd. I'm sure I would have asked the dude what had happened. In retrospect, after seeing the whole video, I'd be pretty pissed that this idiot is tooling along on his segway apparently not competent to operate it (and couldn't he have just walked along with the camera?). It's about as careless as texting while driving. I'm not sure if Usain Bolt is still winning races, but the legs this guy ran into are what puts food on his plate. So yes, I'd be pretty pissed.

artician said:

Do you say that because, from Bolt's perspective, he's not aware of what's going on and thought the dude might have done it on purpose? Or do you come from/live in the kind of environment where that's the normal reaction to an accident between two people?
This isn't meant to provoke or disrespect you; just meant to be a question.

Cameraman on a Segway takes out Usain Bolt

Penn & Teller: Fool Us // Kostya Kimlat Makes Penn Mad

lucky760 says...

I think you're totally right. There have been a few tricks that were good, but still leave some ideas as to how they could be done, but the trick that still has me in disbelief and leaves me with zero clue as to how it was possible is this one: http://videosift.com/video/Shawn-Farquhar-s-Fantastic-Card-Trick-Fool-Us-Penn-Teller

Shawn Farquhar gets just Penn's signed card flipped reverse with all cards in new-deck order INSIDE a box and wrapped in plastic! WTF!

DudeGuy said:

I think I see how this is done. Watch at .25 speed around 3:58. As he's going through the deck, you can see he's filtering face-up cards versus face down cards. Then just before the reveal, he does a "cut" which aligns the cards. He has Penn and Tellers cars set opposite...if they went in face-up then he put them in the face-down cut, if they put it in face-down, he put it in the face-up selection. I'm surprised that they didn't realize how this was done. Pretty basic, actually. This is the phantom shuffle method.

Penn & Teller: Fool Us // Kostya Kimlat Makes Penn Mad

rancor says...

I think you have to be right. That's the only opportunity, and you can see it's slightly fishy as they're being slotted into his right hand. He also makes sure to go through the whole deck instead of stopping once the chosen cards are inserted. Good catch.

EDIT: Of course it helps to see the trick multiple times...

Penn & Teller: Fool Us // Kostya Kimlat Makes Penn Mad

DudeGuy says...

I think I see how this is done. Watch at .25 speed around 3:58. As he's going through the deck, you can see he's filtering face-up cards versus face down cards. Then just before the reveal, he does a "cut" which aligns the cards. He has Penn and Tellers cars set opposite...if they went in face-up then he put them in the face-down cut, if they put it in face-down, he put it in the face-up selection. I'm surprised that they didn't realize how this was done. Pretty basic, actually. This is the phantom shuffle method.



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