I always find it funny when someone says kaep should have done it somewhere else or that its the wrong venue? What was the right venue? would you have listened to him if he hada big press conference? Would you have proclaimed that police brutality is a thing? Would you have gone to a symposium on police brutality if kaep wanted to discus things?

This decision had the biggest impact to bring it to peoples attentions, its sad that the message has been shifted to that of players protesting the military, which doesnt make sense. Protesting because they want more money? That isnt how players go about making more money. (Holding out for more money like bell is doing and not getting fantasy points is how its done). The fact that people talk about it means the message is on peopels minds, and sadly its either the wrong message or the right one in their heads.

The fact that the women had to exclaim the reason he was removing the plate was because of "our lands" "our America" "our people" and not for BLM already shows shes right leaning and wouldn't care for any reason but waht fox news gives her.

I understand how you've come to your conclusion, but let me clear it up:

The word 'vegan' in medicine is exchangeable with plant-based diet. If you look at the PCRM.org they recommend a whole-foods plant-based diet. They simply call it vegan, as that's what other organisations know it as, such as the British/American Dietetics Association. Clearly not recommending vegan icecream and hotdogs :-)

When it comes to prevention of cruelty to animals, the PCRM do it from a medical training/testing stand point. They're not saying don't eat animals because it's cruel, they're saying don't test drugs on animals when there are computer models and lab work that yield more accurate results (although animals costs less....). They're also against surgeons performing vivisection as part of their training. E.g. when my cousin did her training she had to put a perfectly healthy dog to sleep, chop of some of it's legs and re-attach them, as well as causing massive internal wounds to simulate gunshots.... it's messed up, but it's hard for young doctors to say anything because they've trained for a decade at that point, and they're not going to throw it away (and the next person will come along and do it anyway, since it's such a highly competitive industry). This where the PCRM come in, they lobby medical institutions to stop this kind of stuff.


If you're still thinking that they have some kind of vegan agenda / bias, the PCRM is an organisation of 12,000 doctors. If it was just one or two quacks preaching veganism, I'd be suspicious too, but that's clearly not the case here.

Everything they do is based on data. And they're also not the only medical organisation to do it. The Australian Medical Association is also urging hospitals to give patients plant-based diets because of how much faster they recover (and don't return). The President of the American College of Cardiology is 'vegan', and is know for his phrase "Meat kills, processed meat kills you quicker". The World Cancer Research Fund, recommends beans with every meal, no processed meat, and maximum of 350g of red meat a week. That's basically a plant-based diet.

There are now something like 400 studies being published every single year showing how bad animal products are for us. There's a nice graph here actually showing how much more evidence is coming out all the time: https://youtu.be/C5qRXPDNw1E?t=4190 (nevermind the tacky channel, the speakers at this conference are all legitimate medical professionals)

So yes, your doctors are right, eat your fruit and veg, but also whole grains, beans, nuts and seeds. Bean burrito is a perfect combination of these, followed by a banana and berry smoothie

You also have to consider the amount of financial loss various food and pharmacological industries would suffer if most people ate plant-based. So when you look for opinions about the PCRM people are very quick to make PCRM appear as a bunch of hippies in order to protect their earnings. America spends something like 50 billion dollars a year on statins, and 35 billion on stent surgeries, which would pretty much go away overnight if everyone ate plant-based diets. They're not going to let that money go without a fight, which is why there's a lot of opinions about PCRM around. Needless to say though, they don't have any good evidence to back their reasoning, which makes it quite easy to see which ones are likely opinions funded by certain industries.

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Frankly I think every press conference should go like this.

Thank you, Peter Serafinowicz... you make press conferences like this infinitely more watchable.

New York Times article https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/12/us/prison-reform-steve-prator.html

Here is the full press conference. https://youtu.be/qbI_wz1iXQA

anyone care to compute the carbon footprint of that capability as compared to a skype conference???

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I thought this would be right up your alley, it's an anti-Trump educated black man going against big corporations. (The speaker, never mind the conference he's at)

I have to say I don't agree with about the first 20 minutes of what he's talking about because it kind of assumes that early humans hunted and lived alone, but of course we know humans at least lived in small tribes.

But the biological stuff was quite interesting.

They needed a yes vote from McCain, and abstention wouldn't work.

A large number of Republican senators knew very well that skinny repeal was the worst of both worlds. Likely a deadlocked conference committee would have lead to Ryan jamming it through the house as written, at which point insurance premiums would rise meteorically with the withdrawal of the individual mandate.

McCain probably believes he's saving his party from a political disaster as well as a bad policy, and he isn't the only one. At least ten senators expressed serious reservations about the possibility I outlined above.

One commentator I heard on the radio said, "It was always going to be 49-51, the only question is who would be the 51st no vote." McCain took one for the team.

Fair enough, but the problem in this case is the president alone. He's stirring up opposition to the bill and the party with his tweets.

Republicans can say that the ACA was written behind closed doors and pushed through all they want, but the truth is that Obama had much to do with its passing by promoting it and talking specifics. https://www.c-span.org/video/?292260-1/white-house-health-care-summit-part-1

Obama wasn't a president that simply repeated "it's a great bill, the BEST bill" over and over. Now, granted idk why the keep your doctor/plan line was repeated, but if you have a plan that doesn't let you go to the doctor, or a hospital, or get an ambulance, can you really call it health care anymore ?

At some point they had to define what health care was to be able to assign a legal consequence.

In summation, Obama helped the ACA along with speeches and conferences and open debates where he talked actual policy.

Trump is hurting his chances of passing anything by speaking only in vagaries and insults.

The kid seems to be trying to earn a honest living and soliciting neighbors by handing out cards. Some states require a solicitor to have a permit or such.

Generally I don't think the kid had to show ID but since he was technically soliciting maybe he does. I don't know.

The kid should have complied. He decided to cop an attitude.

@newtboy He gave false name and DOB that did not match his stated age, which caused suspicion. The kid finally fled. He had a warrant out on him for assault back in 2015

Pct 1 held a press conference

lol the poor bastards that had to attend the Davita conference. If I saw that idiot come out in the Musketeer outfit, I would've tendered my resignation on the spot.

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Escalators don't stop, but this one was going way too fast, so was then stopped. There must have been some serious injuries because who holds a press conference for a busted escalator?