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simonm (Member Profile)

Alan Dershowitz Says Trump Cannot Be Guilty of Obstruction

greatgooglymoogly says...

I think what Alan is trying to say is that every prosecutor has discretion. Comey isn't guilty of obstructing justice because he decided Clinton wasn't guilty with her email server. He's not guilty of obstruction because he didn't investigate Seth Rich's murder as it related to the DNC and wikileaks. These are all judgement calls. And he's saying as President, Trump has the ultimate authority in judgement calls in what to investigate, and it's completely legal to say investigate this, don't investigate that, or fire someone to stop an investigation. Furthermore, congress has the unilateral power to impeach him if they think any behavior of his is improper. It doesn't need to be illegal and isn't reviewable by a court. They could impeach him for putting katsup on his steak and that would be legal.

Basically you don't need any codified legal basis for impeaching a President.

newtboy (Member Profile)

Comey Testifies Under Oath That Trump Lied Repeatedly

Fairbs says...

it's not important that he lied to Comey, it's important that he lied to the American people; trump is accountable to us, you know Americans (not Russians)

bobknight33 said:

Of all the 4 hours of testimony this is what you post.

Really? You boss never lied to you?

Boss tells me I am great. I'm going a great job. I need you ..Your fired.

This never happens to anyone????????

This is a big nothing burger. Comey is either too thin skinned or a BSer.

I know a guy that got a pay raise at noon and laid off at 5 the same day.

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Januari says...

No actually... he wasn't at the time. That was months ago and before a LOT of contact between people in his sphere came to light.

Its also worth pointing out that Comey wouldn't comment on it openly now... which is strange since he had not problem saying he wasn't under investigation back in February. What changed i wonder?...

@bobknight33

You have be feeling pretty good about your boy... BEST case scenario, his incompetence is completely debilitating. And that actually counts for a win with this clown.... SAD!

newtboy said:

Trump is not under PERSONAL investigation...

Gratefulmom (Member Profile)

Nephelimdream (Member Profile)

Comey Testifies Under Oath That Trump Lied Repeatedly

robbersdog49 says...

Trump claims Comey lied under oath. I can't wait to see him under oath to defend those claims. It's going to be the biggest shitstorm you've ever seen and it's going to be amazing

bobknight33 said:

Boo hoo...

Comey best testimony is that Trump lied on why he was fired... Boo hoo..
Trump is Comey boss. he can be fired for any reason or for no reason. Grow up this is the same in any business.

The testimony also indicated that Trump IS NOT under investigation. Flynn was looked at but not as a primary target of the investigation.

Comey was one of the inside leakers. He leaked his own memo.


https://videosift.com/video/Chris-Matthews-Admits-Russia-Collusion-Narrative-Destroyed

Comey Testifies Under Oath That Trump Lied Repeatedly

Diogenes says...

Fascinating. I can't help but feel a bit sad for the man. But there are some aspects of his testimony that leave me scratching my head:

"[T]he administration then chose to defame me and more importantly the FBI by saying that the organization was in disarray, that it was poorly led, that the workforce had lost confidence in its leader. Those were lies, plain and simple."

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/08/full-text-james-comey-trump-russia-testimony-239295

"Yet there is a growing consensus that Comey has wielded the powers of the directorship more aggressively than anyone since Hoover—to the consternation, and even anger, of some of his colleagues."

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/james-comey-fbi-accountability-214234

"Mr. Comey got so many calls from former agents and others after he decided this summer not to pursue charges that he had to change his phone number posted online. And at a recent meeting with retired agents, he was still fielding tough questions about the decision."

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/29/us/politics/fbi-clinton-emails-james-comey.html

I think it's fair to say that Comey helped to create a "turbulent" atmosphere at the FBI during the past year, one probably not matched since the firing of William Sessions in 1993.

I wish someone had thought to ask him what he'd imagine the results of the "hopes, loyalty and leaks" would have been if he hadn't been fired.

A Fair Summation of the Comey Testimony

newtboy says...

Testimony shows Trump is a liar, bold faced, in private and public.

Testimony also showed that Trump knew his actions were wrong, that's why he cleared the oval office to direct Comey to leave Flynn alone.

Comey shouldn't have said what Trump wanted, that he wasn't under investigation, because everyone around him and his campaign itself was under investigation and it seemed likely he would be personally implicated soon, and saying he's cleared or not under investigation is a claim that would not be fully honest. Also, because the FBI isn't supposed to comment on open investigations at all, nor are they a spokesperson for the president speaking at his direction.

I do agree with him, Comey was cowardly....he admitted as much. He should have refused and walked out of the room insistent he never be left alone with Trump again when Trump asked him to let Flynn go and gone straight to congress.

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newtboy says...

Not to avoid an investigation...that's illegal, and apparently what happened. Good thing he failed as usual, and only intensified the investigation.

Trump is not under PERSONAL investigation, his campaign, for which he's responsible, is another story. Even if it turns out that Trump himself was totally unaware of his people working with Russia to win the election, that doesn't absolve him of responsibility, nor does it make leaving him (or Pence) in office proper.
There are multiple investigations, and Flynn was one of them. He was absolutely the target of the Flynn investigation.

Yes, he leaked his own, non classified notes....because the president was going on TV and bold faced lying to the public about what happened, and as a patriot Comey wasn't going to stand for someone intentionally interfering with an investigation into something so serious and trying to make it just evaporate, so he took the extraordinary step of leaking his own notes to try to push congress towards a special prosecutor, because Trump had fired the regular prosecutor and threatened him.

If Cosby fired the prosecutor in his case and chose the new one personally, would you trust the trial process to be fair anymore? That's what Trump tried to do, but failed.

bobknight33 said:

Boo hoo...

Comey best testimony is that Trump lied on why he was fired... Boo hoo..
Trump is Comey boss. he can be fired for any reason or for no reason. grow up this is the same in any business.

The testimony also indicated that Trump IS NOT under investigation. Flynn was looked at but not as a primary target of the investigation.

Comey was one of the inside leakers. He leaked his own memo.


https://videosift.com/video/Chris-Matthews-Admits-Russia-Collusion-Narrative-Destroyed

Comey Testifies Under Oath That Trump Lied Repeatedly

bobknight33 says...

Boo hoo...

Comey best testimony is that Trump lied on why he was fired... Boo hoo..
Trump is Comey boss. he can be fired for any reason or for no reason. Grow up this is the same in any business.

The testimony also indicated that Trump IS NOT under investigation. Flynn was looked at but not as a primary target of the investigation.

Comey was one of the inside leakers. He leaked his own memo.


https://videosift.com/video/Chris-Matthews-Admits-Russia-Collusion-Narrative-Destroyed

Ad Attacking Comey Before He Testifies

bobknight33 says...

Boo hoo...

Comey best testimony is that Trump lied on why he was fired... Boo hoo..
Trump is Comey boss. he can be fired for any reason or for no reason. grow up this is the same in any business.

The testimony also indicated that Trump IS NOT under investigation. Flynn was looked at but not as a primary target of the investigation.

Comey was one of the inside leakers. He leaked his own memo.


https://videosift.com/video/Chris-Matthews-Admits-Russia-Collusion-Narrative-Destroyed

newtboy said:

Here's just a taste of why Trump needs Comey to be dismissed as a political hack and liar......

*related=https://videosift.com/video/Comey-Testifies-Under-Oath-That-Trump-Lied-Repeatedly

I'm certain this bit of his testimony will turn out to be one of the less damning bits of info about Trump's never ending lies and dictatorial style that will come out of today's hearings, but it is clearly indicative of how Trump operates....which is a mirror of how most dictators operate. Their guy is the best, most trustworthy, intelligent, and honorable person who could hold a position....until that person disagrees with the dictator in any tiny way, then suddenly they're liars, idiots, and traitors that should probably be put to death for treason.
How on earth do you not see it?

newtboy (Member Profile)

Comey Testifies Under Oath That Trump Lied Repeatedly

bobknight33 says...

Of all the 4 hours of testimony this is what you post.

Really? You boss never lied to you?

Boss tells me I am great. I'm going a great job. I need you ..Your fired.

This never happens to anyone????????

This is a big nothing burger. Comey is either too thin skinned or a BSer.

I know a guy that got a pay raise at noon and laid off at 5 the same day.



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