He said it was a great buy, go all in at 400+….continuing to say it’s a great buy down through 150….it’s now 123 and crashing but still over 38PE. I think it becomes a reasonable buy by today’s standards at around 65-70 and finally a good buy at just under 50….but only if you think it will survive, which is no longer a certainty at all.
Ouch.

He also claimed the quasi “recession” was all Biden’s fault…suddenly now it’s global, so not Tesla’s fault they’re crashing and burning. Pick a lane.

He said compare it to Amazon….so I did. YTD Amazon is down almost 50%….but Tesla is down 70% . I guess he didn’t think you would look.

No worries. I go overboard being too honest, to my own detriment, so when it's even hinted I could become a liar like those I was describing I bristle. Sorry.

Powers? I am but a whisper in the wind, I have no powers.

Unsophisticated....guilty.

I disagree, but I think people rarely get what they deserve, good or bad. Many do deserve to crash and burn, those that intentionally inflict harm on others for sport, profit, or pleasure for instance, and to me that's what lies are, intentional infliction of harm.

My intent is not insult you. I respect you. You have a powerful talent and I feel as though you become frustrated because you keep hitting the curb with your Bugatti.

I never called you a liar nor do I believe you are. Maybe just a little ignorant of your powers.

ig·no·rant
/ˈiɡnərənt/
adjective
lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.

Again, not insult you but just to show I did my homework. I know you demand that.

Edit: "If I did, I don't want anyone to catch me. Let me fall, crash, and burn, that's what liars deserve."

No one deserves that but, grief will take you there. If you haven't experienced real greif, you're not alone. When you fall it won't be because you're a liar. It will be because you loved someone.

Not my hatred.
My hate is born from a disgust of those who gleefully obfuscate fact and truth.
You go ahead and love the unloveable lying shit bags. Catch them, leave me be.
I'm not becoming a retarded ignoramus idiot who contradicts fact with made up nonsense. If I did, I don't want anyone to catch me. Let me fall, crash, and burn, that's what liars deserve.

I will never become them, I care about fact and truth and I am not a liar, and I'm insulted by the implication. That is a fact.

Classic Hollywood over correction, try to fix a decades long problem with women in Hollywood by pumping out a few female centric movies as a mea culpa. Then, if the movies bomb they'll point to that as proof that nobody wants to watch female led movies.
All the while ignoring the fact that male led movies crash and burn all the damn time and nobody goes "it failed because, you know, men". And never addressing the real problems.

@Jinx

I am a bit confused. Earlier you used the word "conned" to describe the game, now you say it's not a hoax.

Aside from that, you certainly have voiced legitimate concerns. I'm also sick and tired of the usual pre-order business model. I decided that after playing the utter mess that was the Halo: Master Chief Collection for Xbox that I would never pre-order a game again. It's one thing to buy a game on day one, but yeah, in the usual sense, pre-orders need to die.

Thing is though...this is a kickstarter, thus the rules are different, by it's very nature, you HAVE to sell promises and pre-orders, or at the very least, contribution promises/swag/perks/etc. It's an alternative to going to a publisher and begging them for money to make the game and risk having the publisher exert creative control over the game/product/etc and whatever other compromises a publisher might force a developer to make. How many games have been utter shite because the publisher meddled and forced a game out before it was ready. Too many.

With kickstarters, it's the other way around. Backers demand that a game not be released before it's ready, but now the hype train has to start chugging along WAY earlier than a publisher-backed game in order to generate interest, because now the publishers are the backers and this is happening long before a game even gets to an alpha stage.

There is a risk with any kickstarter. If it was anyone other than Chris Roberts, I doubt I would have backed it. I backed the Shadowrun games mainly because it was being run by the guy who created the game originally and that turned out to be successful...twice. I'll be going for the hat-trick with the Battletech game they're working on now. Chris Roberts and Jordan Weisman both have solid reputations and have demonstrated they can make solid games. If it was Derek Smart or someone relatively unknown, I doubt I would have backed.

I find it interesting how the detractors are coming from various levels. Some of the detractors seem to be against kickstarters in general. Some seem to be against SC specifically and I think others are simply against it just because they want to see something ambitious crash and burn....and then there's Derek Smart who seems to have a personal, unhinged, vendetta against Chris Roberts.

Regardless of how successful SC will or won't be. SC is still a niche game by the very fact that it's a space sim. Even if it is a complete and total success, it's going to be a very complex game with a crazy amount of information to absorb and it will be difficult to be good at it. It is not for the casual gamer. So it will never reach mass appeal or become a widely recognized franchise like, say, Halo or Call of Duty. I think that is part of the appeal. A couple decades ago, publishers as a whole gave space sims the middle finger, but now thanks to crowdfunding, space sims are making a comeback.

Roberts has clearly tapped into something or people wouldn't be giving him money. He originally only asked for 2 million dollars, so even he didn't think it was going to be this big. (Europe is going absolutely bonkers for Space Citizen, they're way more into SC than we are in America)

So much for being on ignore.

You mean beside your long documented history of saying blatantly racist things?

you made a judgement about the cops based on nothing but their race. the literal definition of racism. The fact that you STILL don't get this after all this time further demonstrates your ignorance.

Funny that you don't deny the misogyny and trolling.

Crash and burn lantern...crash and burn....again.

as usual, you're not just wrong, you're either stupid, or lying or all of the above. a very quick glance at your comment history shows you not being shy about "name calling" from your very first few posts here on the sift.

your imaginary high horse is as bloated as our military budget.

keep digging yourself a hole though. It's always fun to watch you crash and burn over and over again.

Choggie works hard to bring that about. I'm feeling like he's headed for another crash and burn.

Can't say I'll miss him any more than I did the last time. The boy's got no self-control and appears to lack any sense of courtesy.

It's very difficult to beat Hitchens, he's a master debater.

It wouldn't even matter if you had a stronger position, if you are not at his skill level and I'd say very few people are, he'd quite likely still "beat" you. This Ritter guy is not on equal level, one of his weaknesses is his passion, which I'm afraid in civil debate really just gets in the way.

If you're going to throw out a bone that a country is better off with a Dictator than the growing pains of a revolution, well, just get the shovel out and start digging.

Oh Saddam might of helped the country out a little when it was crashing and burning...oh lord BETTER keep him forever. What a shallow and stupid perspective, why does he want to rule over a dump site? Of course he'd like to improve it so he can rule something a little nicer. He's still a Dictator with crimes against humanity as long as they come.

Just a weird stance to have taken, I feel like Ritter knew he was getting a bit stupid but couldn't realistically back down without reducing the effect of the rest of his arguments.

So many child actors crash and burn (drugs, alcohol abuse, money troubles, etc.) that I'm glad to see she turned out okay.

Personally, if all the "secret services" crashed and burned overnight, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. I think we'd be far, far better off if our government was not allowed to keep any activities secret. Maybe we'd be able to reduce the level of corruption to something acceptable, if all the books were open to public review.

I certainly think it perfectly obvious that the real criminals in this case were those that performed and authorized the torture, rather than the one that blew the whistle. YMMV

I love how that little guy can go flying and flipping four times the length of his body, crash and burn, then jump up like nothing happened.

It's like if you tossed a human 25 feet off a ten foot platform and he didn't bat an eye.

Boss dog!

Evil face of the US... Hoookay. One fundamental flaw though, this would require Assange to grow a pair, and lets face facts, a chicken never changes its mile wide yellow streak.

>> ^SevenFingers:

I say he surrenders. I do support his role in trying to get the corporate oligarchy to crash and burn, but we can never know if he is a true rapist unless he faces the courts... Now, if he gets sent to the US and tortured, etc. Then people will know those rape charges were manufactured, and maybe... just maybe something will actually happen to help change the evil face of the USA