Seems like people who have bulletproof vests aren't the intended targets.. but then doesn't that mean.. hmm, good thing they haven't taken your.. oh wait, never mind.

When I hear the argument about hammers, I laugh, because who ever believes that is a dumbass. And then I realize, people actually believe it, and then I'm sad.

Yes, assault rifles are outnumbered by hammers . . . maybe. Actually, BLUNT OBJECTS outnumbers rifles, but that includes bats, bricks, printers, pianos, pipes, candle holders and the whole ensemble of clue.

Now, in reality most murder is between people who know each other. That's why serial killers are more terrifying. They're killing people they don't know, seemingly at random. Which puts the paranoia in the population and people start freaking. Random killings just seem more terrifying. For some reason people just don't expect their mom to kill them. Who knows why, must be some weird fluke or Buddha or something.

The idea that I can go watch a movie with my daughter and some guy with an overloaded assault rifle, body armour etc can come in and just shoot everyone is way more terrifying a prospect than my mother-in-law finally snapping and picking up a knife and stabbing me. First off, I could totally kick her ass. Second, the former I can't do anything about. Despite the "it takes a good man with a gun" bullshit, reality shows otherwise. 9mm versus bulletproof vest, smoke grenade, IED's and assault rifles just doesn't cut it. But I don't play CoD . . .

In regards to the constitution, yeah, when it was written the military and the people had the same access to weaponry. Matter of fact, we didn't even have a standing army. It really was up to the states to get a regulated militia to keep the country safe from invaders. So comparing that to printed newspapers and tv and internet is, well, simple. It's a similar argument most paranoid gun owners use for everything. Let's just take a superficial look and ignore reality. Kind of like real dictators and tyrants taking away 22mm hand guns while pointing their tanks at your house.

I think that's the greatest irony . . . those who wish to own guns to protect themselves from tyrants are blindly following their leaders and scream for murder and revolt, or 1766 will rise again! yadda yadda, are becoming the same puppets they claim they are protecting themselves from. No one saw Hitler coming? Well, he sounded a lot like Beck honestly. So did Stalin, etc. The people who followed them thought they made absolute sense, and then this and that happened and now we all know them as mass murdering fiends.

So again, are we really talking gun control so we have the right to become the fourth reich, or are we really wanting a worthwhile discussion on saving lives?

When will they finally put bulletproof windows in those things?

>> ^chingalera:

^ Not while the friends of the machine stop treating corn-cronies to massive subsidies to keep polluting our gasoline with ethanol-What is saves in pollutant emissions it makes up for by destroying fuel systems and anything rubber in your car's engine.
You think that those who stand to gain the most money from marijuana and hemp laws remaining retarded would allow what's good for the United States and her people to become educated, involved, and effectual?? Fat fucking chance. Obama won't sign dick that gets the country any closer to sanity.
Hooray for Washington and Colorado. I've lived in both states. My children live in Seattle. I hope they will see an end to prohibition in their lifetime. We all remember how well prohibition in the early part of the 20th century to trade one form of organized crime for another one, eh?
Illegal marijuana puts more military-tech and bulletproof vests into hands and on the asses of more developmentally-disabled hooligans every year. The same hooligans who are the enforcement and surveillance arm of the thugs who offered up the choices of douche or turd for president this farcical election cycle....ONE AFTER ANOTHER!!!


Pretty much this. I've heard the only reason hemp was banned in the first place was because of corporate cronies.

^ Not while the friends of the machine stop treating corn-cronies to massive subsidies to keep polluting our gasoline with ethanol-What is saves in pollutant emissions it makes up for by destroying fuel systems and anything rubber in your car's engine.

You think that those who stand to gain the most money from marijuana and hemp laws remaining retarded would allow what's good for the United States and her people to become educated, involved, and effectual?? Fat fucking chance. Obama won't sign dick that gets the country any closer to sanity.

Hooray for Washington and Colorado. I've lived in both states. My children live in Seattle. I hope they will see an end to prohibition in their lifetime. We all remember how well prohibition in the early part of the 20th century to trade one form of organized crime for another one, eh?

Illegal marijuana puts more military-tech and bulletproof vests into hands and on the asses of more developmentally-disabled hooligans every year. The same hooligans who are the enforcement and surveillance arm of the thugs who offered up the choices of douche or turd for president this farcical election cycle....ONE AFTER ANOTHER!!!

@kevingrr

Haha, nothing's wrong with brakes except that the cheap ones don't work in the snow or rain very well. As a delivery biker a couple years back, I found some legitimate reasons to ride a fixie. Basically they're bulletproof and simple, they work no matter what the weather conditions and yes, it's a riding style that is challenging and fun.

But mostly I rode it because it was the most affordable reliability my money could by. Nothing wrong with a fancy set of brakes, derailers and and gearset - they just cost a lot. And the cheaper stuff never stood up to the abuse.

I always had handbrakes on my bikes, but they never really worked very well since I neglected them due to disuse. Make fun of it all you want, but using the pedals is by far the most reliable way to stop a bike if you know what you're doing.

Is it bulletproof?

They're great, aren't they? I love reading them. Every four months or go I'll go back through them all fresh when I need a good read about things that react violently and burn with vigor. Glad I could help!

In reply to this comment by oritteropo:
I know your comment wasn't aimed at me, but I've read some of them... I've learned not to read them at work, it's hard to pretend you're working while laughing that much.

Note that most of the fume hoods mentioned on that site probably would be bulletproof.
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[...]Ever read http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/things_i_wont_work_with/ ?

I know your comment wasn't aimed at me, but I've read some of them... I've learned not to read them at work, it's hard to pretend you're working while laughing that much.

Note that most of the fume hoods mentioned on that site probably would be bulletproof.
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[...]Ever read http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/things_i_wont_work_with/ ?

>> ^ponceleon:

Is the glass on those hoods bulletproof? Just curious...


The ones I have ever used were made of plexiglass, or at least some form of plastic. I do not remmeber seeing one made with glass, but then I have never used one outside a college chemistry lab or a high school.

Is the glass on those hoods bulletproof? Just curious...

I don't know why anyone would want to hunt with that round, but still, I seriously doubt they used half jackets. It's not like bulletproof glass is something that only exists in the movies.

>> ^smooman:

i may be going out on a limb here but I'm fairly certain their primary consumer base are contractors overseas, in which case, an ak 47 you'll see 9 times out of 10. Technically you're right about the difference in muzzle velocity but it doesn't really matter when you're marketing your product to people who are being shot at by ak's 99% of the time. and from my experience with "bulletproof" materials, if it can stop an ak, it will still be effective against any other 7.62 weapon system
i would like to see how it holds up against a dshk tho. those are common enough .50 cal weapons particularly in afghanistan and parts of africa and they're scary as hell
>> ^Drachen_Jager:
AK 47 is a relatively weak rifle to test it with. Compared to a 7.62 NATO which is far more common in the United States it has a maximum 1260 ft-lbf of energy at the muzzle to the NATO 7.62's 2500-3000. And 7.62 NATO is not a heavy load either. A .50 cal BMG (as someone suggested) has 11,000 - 13,000, ten times the 7.62 Russian's energy.



Yep, there's something to be said for probability.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM7HDRhViHQ

i may be going out on a limb here but I'm fairly certain their primary consumer base are contractors overseas, in which case, an ak 47 you'll see 9 times out of 10. Technically you're right about the difference in muzzle velocity but it doesn't really matter when you're marketing your product to people who are being shot at by ak's 99% of the time. and from my experience with "bulletproof" materials, if it can stop an ak, it will still be effective against any other 7.62 weapon system

i would like to see how it holds up against a dshk tho. those are common enough .50 cal weapons particularly in afghanistan and parts of africa and they're scary as hell

>> ^Drachen_Jager:

AK 47 is a relatively weak rifle to test it with. Compared to a 7.62 NATO which is far more common in the United States it has a maximum 1260 ft-lbf of energy at the muzzle to the NATO 7.62's 2500-3000. And 7.62 NATO is not a heavy load either. A .50 cal BMG (as someone suggested) has 11,000 - 13,000, ten times the 7.62 Russian's energy.

not a perfect process... but what is seen in the video seems reasonable

as an american living overseas for many years, i've seen american bureaucracy at its worst in our consulates, embassies and trade offices ... what is seen in this video pales in comparison

try this one on for size before complaining of invasive, unfair requirements and possible conspiracy:

my son is born overseas and i want to apply for his us citizenship / passport

i try to phone the embassy to ask what documents i will need to bring by three-hour train ride - i get a 10-minute phone tree that answers nothing and simply refers me to their website, which is rattled-off so quickly that i need to listen to the 10-minute phone tree two more times to jot the url down

the website explains that answers cannot be given over the phone, and i can only speak to a human in an emergency circumstance - the website gives me some ambiguous answers, and states that if i have questions i will need to make an appointment online - an online calendar appears showing me possible appointment dates/times - all monday to friday between 9-11am and 2-4pm... also the american citizen services section is closed for all american holidays AND those of the host country - yay for having to take unpaid time off from work!

i get a date and time to appear, and i try to collect all relevant information to only make a single visit

at the appointed time, i appear and am told to surrender my bag and phone, pass through a metal detector, and then i am frisked - upon arriving at the proper office, i am given a number and told to wait - when my number is called, i approach the proper window and speak to an 'american' through a speaker system embedded in the 1-inch bulletproof glass

i have somehow managed to have most all of the necessary documents (not to the website's credit, but to my overkill), but one requirement stops me... they don't accept that i am a us citizen... what the hell?!

i show them my original us birth certificate, my valid us passport, my valid us driver's license, my social security card, proof of my us address, my us high school and university diplomas, my voter registration card, etc...

all are unacceptable proof...

i am told that to satisfy their requirement, they will need at least five-years' worth of us school transcripts from a single us location... since i was a military brat, and changed schools often, this was an impossibility

i finally get through to a supervisor who i had phone my state senator, who is a family friend, and he rips them one and they finally relent

clear? nope... one further requirement is that my son's notarized foreign birth certificate needs to be translated into english and notarized - i have the translation but not the notary seal (this can only be done at the embassy) - i ask them to notarize it and they inform me that i will have to leave and mail it to them with a check and pre-paid, express-mail return envelope - once i receive that, i should set up a new appointment and return... with their assuring me that the process (CRBA) would be complete at that point

i do what they said, and two weeks later I receive the now-notarized translation and set up a new appointment - i return at the stipulated time with all the proper documents and go to pay the fee...

then i am told that my infant son has to be present as well... and so the process can't be completed at that time

i return home, a 6-hour roundtrip commute by train, and set up a new appointment... returning with my 6-month-old son so that they can see him through the bullet proof glass, and then i can pay the exorbitant fee

as if all of this isn't enough, the cashier will not provide change... and they want me to leave, set up a new appointment and return with exact change - i offer to leave 'a tip' of close to us$20 in order to finalize this ridiculous process without having to return... they refuse

having read all of this... can you still complain about what this woman and her son had to go through?

nonsense